No. My post was about Cig getting fired if he doesn’t make a change. Not duzz.
Cignetti will decide - WTH?
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I dont count bowl games. You can count them if you want. I dont. The season ends in early December. The bowl game is a fun exhibition.
Pat Narduzzi Has Deferred QB Decision to Frank Cignetti Jr.
It’s no secret that Pat Narduzzi is a defensive-minded head coach, but it’s clear now that he’s not all that involved with the offensive personnel decisions this season — especially at quarterback. Narduzzi hasn’t wavered from his position that Pitt shouldn’t just “pull the plug” on Jurkovec...pittsburghsportsnow.com
“It’s not surprising that Narduzzi is more hands-on with the defense. But it certainly is concerning that in the midst of such a poor stretch of play, he’s only spending 15% of his time with that unit. He’s the head coach, not the defensive coordinator.
It’s clear that Pitt needs a change, even if it’s just to provide a spark to a stagnant, underperforming offense, but it appears as though that will only happen if Cignetti decides to do so. Not Narduzzi.”
Incredible….
I watched the press conference, and I took his answer as him punting on the question. He never answered the question that was asked.
PSN is taking quite a stretch with their conclusion. If anyone thinks Duzz isn't involved with who is starting this Saturday, I have a bridge to Messina for sale.
I never thought he spent a lot of time with the offense. Frankly, they probably don't want him around.
It’s why the cignetti hire happened with no questions asked.
I’m sorry, that hire was on the same level as Kevin stallings just for a coordinator
Right-he devotes a whopping 15% of his time to the most important unit on his team. And at the end of the games when a reporter asks him why he did or didn’t do this or that, he deflects to his OC.
When Canada and Whip were running the O, ot was clear from Nardon’tzis public statements that he had absolutely nothing to do with the offensive side, other than to bitch about scoring too quickly and putting more stress on his precious defense.
You can keep going to bat for the guy all you want, and as I’ve said before he’s not all bad, but he has major flaws and deficiencies. He’s a middling HC at best. He’s not very smart. The gym teacher analogy is pretty close.
Yeah, not sure why anyone would think Duzz is just going to say what he's going to do with personnel. He's never done that.
Uh. He made it clear (presser) that Whip ran the offense including decisions for all 4th downs. Any coach could see the sideline QB visits ate into the play clock but he chose to not change it — but then KP had that monster year. So he is managing the game the same as always and it’s not just a Cig thing.
But the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl does? At least that is how the program and majority of the fans feel.
Sure grand scheme losing the Peach Bowl didn't mean much, but it would be a nice feather in the cap to say hey, our one and only time in a NY6 game and we won.
Yeah...that's the most disturbing aspect of his statement. Doesn't have a problem dissing his most productive OCs and running them out but has no problem letting a stiff like Cignetti call the shots with the most important position on the field.
No. The Sun Bowl win doesn't count. It was a fun game. Nice to win it. But its a one-off exhibition game.
It’s also why he’s probably not going to be much of a candidate for bigger jobs. Although maybe MSU doesn’t qualify.
But he’s not a CEO coach.
And there aren’t a ton of schools looking for coaches to run their team the way a Spurrier or Richt did. The Bowden-Saban model largely dominates.
My gym teachers, likely for the worse with many of them, would have NOT deferred such an important aspect of the game. What Duz is suggesting (inadvertently I hope) he does, would be like the teacher looking to make sure everyone in our class had sneakers on, then going back into his office . I certainly WISH many of my gym teachers had been so lax. But they were typical on our tails for the entire class. And we were the better for it. They weren’t making 5 million dollars either.
If Pat would not have pushed Whipple out, then Pickett would have played in that game.
Huh? I never suggested otherwise. Read my post again--hands on with Whipple--as in he shoved him out the door with both hands. A little play on words there.
My criticism of Dooz in this thread is that he all but ignores the offense, and has since Day 1.
Ignores the details for sure.
But definitely dictates what he wants high level… and that is a conservative, TOP dominated style that won’t put undue stress on his defense.
A team that struggles to get top end talent like Pitt does now just can’t win this way IMO. It’ll fall behind teams with better, heck with ANY, skill players, and then won’t be able to come back.
He dreams of low scoring victories, but mostly he is going to get low scoring LOSSES.
Which is just what happened the last two weeks.
I don’t speak for her .
It’s unfortunately more likely she’ll leave for greener pastures than Pat
So the next AD will likely drop the axe on the 7-5 coach
You mean when he was visiting Chubba Purdy on Pitt's dime and recruiting him to Nebraska? Whipple was on his way to Nebraska for $$$, and it didn't matter if Narduzzi wanted him to stay or not.
Actually, the only thing wrong with that post is the "would". If he'd have said "might", the post would have been factually accurate.
Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett was dealt a blow when Mark Whipple jumped ship on Pitt and moved on to Nebraska, and with uncertainty hanging over the team and the offense in particular, Pickett has rethought playing in the upcoming Peach Bowl.
"With recent news out of our team, with Coach Whipple and everybody, that’s something," Pickett said on the Dan Patrick Show on Wednesday. "I actually just got home yesterday, and I didn’t get a chance to talk about [playing in the Peach Bowl] with my parents. ... I’d say [I'm] undecided right now.”
Pickett told reporters in his post-game press conference after Pitt’s win in the 2021 ACC Championship Game that he intended to play in the bowl game. That was before it was announced that Pitt would be playing in the Peach Bowl against Michigan State and before the resignation of offensive coordinator Mark Whipple on Tuesday.
Was Whipple productive without a sixth-year first round pick at QB? After all, that is the factor that many Narduzzi haters say established him as HC.
TD lives in a different universe. He thinks Pitt runs the same offensive scheme as bama did with Bryce young. He thinks cugnetti is good. He thinks scheme doesn’t really make a difference
You said he had no accountability. That accountability can only come from his boss/bosses.
Just admit you were wrong because you have no idea if she is holding him accountable or not.
PR.
That sounds a lot better than my agent doesn't want me to play. Playing in that game would have been extremely dumb.
You mean after Pitt offered a bag of money to keep Whipple, like they did with Canada?
Oh wait--that never happened, because it was common knowledge that there had been a lot of tension between Nardon'tzi and Whip for a long time, and Nardon'tzi wanted him gone before the 2021 season ever even kicked off, so Nardon'tzi held the door for Whip and told him not to let the doorknob hit him in the a$$. Which is a curious way to handle a guy who just gave you your best offensive output in program history.
But, that's how we do it at Pitt.
I had the feeling all that 2021 season that Nardon'tzi was unhappy with the offense despite setting yardage records and putting up 42 ppg. And obviously, by his own admission after the season, he WAS unhappy with it. If that isn't the definition of dumb, I don't know what is.
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That and the comment bragging about a complicated offense over the summer might go down of two of the dumbest of all time
Cignetti made a monumental mistake hitching his wagon to Jurk. I don't think that makes him a bad coordinator.
Have you seen Bama's offense this year?
I never said scheme didn't make a difference. I said your scheme should fit your personel. The reason Bama sucks offensively has nothing to do with scheme. It's because they don't have a Bryce Young. Their QB play is garbage.
He never said he was unhappy with the offense. That's a fabrication. He threw shade at Whipple on a podcast for Whip's hesitancy to run the ball against a team with the 118th ranked run defense. That's basically all it was.
Here was Narduzzi's statement after Whipple left:
"(Whipple) did a tremendous job transitioning us from a heavy run attack to one of the best passing games in the entire country," Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi said. "His great work with quarterbacks was obviously on full display, given the outstanding year Kenny Pickett has enjoyed. I am very grateful for Mark's time in Pittsburgh, both personally as well as professionally, and I wish him and his family the very best moving forward."
Mark Whipple: Offensive Coordinator Leaving Pitt Panthers
The architect behind Pitt's high-flying offense this season is leaving his post.
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I don't think that makes him a bad coordinator.
Agreed. It's his track record as OC with college offenses that makes him a bad coordinator. I mean, has he ever had a team that finished in the top 70 in total offense or top 50 in scoring? Has he ever OC'd a team that averaged 30 or more PPG?
I'll save you the research--no and no.
As I've said before, there weren't a lot of programs around the country looking at Cignasty at Rutgers or BC, or now Pitt, and saying, damn I sure wish we had THAT guy running our offense.
Agreed. It's his track record as OC with college offenses that makes him a bad coordinator. I mean, has he ever had a team that finished in the top 70 in total offense or top 50 in scoring? Has he ever OC'd a team that averaged 30 or more PPG?
I'll save you the research--no and no.
As I've said before, there weren't a lot of programs around the country looking at Cignasty at Rutgers or BC, or now Pitt, and saying, damn I sure wish we had THAT guy running our offense.
LOL--his official press release after it was announced that Whip was leaving.He never said he was unhappy with the offense. That's a fabrication. He threw shade at Whipple on a podcast for Whip's hesitancy to run the ball against a team with the 118th ranked run defense. That's basically all it was.
Here was Narduzzi's statement after Whipple left:
"(Whipple) did a tremendous job transitioning us from a heavy run attack to one of the best passing games in the entire country," Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi said. "His great work with quarterbacks was obviously on full display, given the outstanding year Kenny Pickett has enjoyed. I am very grateful for Mark's time in Pittsburgh, both personally as well as professionally, and I wish him and his family the very best moving forward."
Mark Whipple: Offensive Coordinator Leaving Pitt Panthers
The architect behind Pitt's high-flying offense this season is leaving his post.
Nice try.
He never said he was unhappy with the offense. That's a fabrication. He threw shade at Whipple on a podcast for Whip's hesitancy to run the ball against a team with the 118th ranked run defense. That's basically all it was.
Here was Narduzzi's statement after Whipple left:
"(Whipple) did a tremendous job transitioning us from a heavy run attack to one of the best passing games in the entire country," Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi said. "His great work with quarterbacks was obviously on full display, given the outstanding year Kenny Pickett has enjoyed. I am very grateful for Mark's time in Pittsburgh, both personally as well as professionally, and I wish him and his family the very best moving forward."
Mark Whipple: Offensive Coordinator Leaving Pitt Panthers
The architect behind Pitt's high-flying offense this season is leaving his post.
He added, “Our old offensive coordinator had no desire to run the ball. Everybody knew it; he was stubborn. Wake Forest was 118th in run defense, and we threw the ball every down. When we ran it, we ran it for 10 yards, but that wasn’t good enough.”
“I think when you throw the ball 85 percent of the time, and you’ve got people teeing off on the pass rush, we didn’t make it easy on Kenny,” Narduzzi said.
Whipple left Pitt for Nebraska. He was replaced by Frank Cignetti Jr., and Narduzzi also has a new receivers coach/passing game coordinator in Tiquan Underwood. “We’ve got better people coaching on those positions on offense, I guarantee you that,” Narduzzi said.
You missed the part about him recruiting Purdy to Nebraska on Pitt's dime. That's not a guy you offer a bag. Obviously Whipple has no culpability in the strained relationship with Narduzzi. We know he was a joy to work with because he even got along so well with Scott Frost.
Whipple didn't want to be subservient to anyone. It's a testament to Narduzzi that he kept him here three years and put up with him.
As I said, td lives on a totally different planet. He also think it’s better to go 8-4 than go to the title game like TCU
