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Cignetti will decide - WTH?

You missed the part about him recruiting Purdy to Nebraska on Pitt's dime. That's not a guy you offer a bag. Obviously Whipple has no culpability in the strained relationship with Narduzzi. We know he was a joy to work with because he even got along so well with Scott Frost.

Whipple didn't want to be subservient to anyone. It's a testament to Narduzzi that he kept him here three years and put up with him.
And that's exactly why Whipple is unemployed today.

And Nebraska was stupid enough to pay him double what he made at Pitt AND give him a 2 year contract.
 
Any coach could see the sideline QB visits ate into the play clock but he chose to not change it


Well that's probably because as dumb as that looked, we basically never had a problem getting plays off in time while we were doing it.

Oddly enough, we have had multiple guys here who called the plays who DID have trouble getting them in on time even without the quarterback going over to the sideline.
 
You missed the part about him recruiting Purdy to Nebraska on Pitt's dime. That's not a guy you offer a bag. Obviously Whipple has no culpability in the strained relationship with Narduzzi. We know he was a joy to work with because he even got along so well with Scott Frost.

Whipple didn't want to be subservient to anyone. It's a testament to Narduzzi that he kept him here three years and put up with him.
Well judging by Dooz’s revolving door of OCs and his childish and classless public bashing of them (and some other assistants) after they leave, I’m pretty sure there’s another side to that story, GG. But I know the Kool Aid runs strong in you, so I’ll save my debates for those capable of some modicum of objectivity.
 
Well judging by Dooz’s revolving door of OCs and his childish and classless public bashing of them (and some other assistants) after they leave, I’m pretty sure there’s another side to that story, GG. But I know the Kool Aid runs strong in you, so I’ll save my debates for those capable of some modicum of objectivity.

I'm not objective if I don't bash the coach you don't like? What did I say that was false?

We all know he has their back, to a fault, while they're here and has no use for them when they leave. Doesn't bother me. Whipple pulled a d!ck move, whether he got along with Narduzzi or not.
 
Bingo!

He’s not too shy about firing OC’s but all of a sudden, he’s hands off when it comes to Cignetti / Jurkovec… I wished he was more hands off when it came to Whipple…
He was hands off to him as he has been to every other OC. And, how he does things has mostly worked overall.

He is 100% wrong here, should have pulled PJ while they still had a chance to win against WVU.

But, while we suffered through Watson and year 1 & 2 of Whip, he also had two of the handful of best offensive years in program history w Canada and year 3 Whip.

I am pulling my hair out like everyone else over PJ, but this man is hands down the best coach this program has seen since Sherril.
 
That it’s bullshit, like every press release ever issued after someone leaves a very public job. I’m sure Narduzzi had little to no input into it.
Well, whether it's bullshit or not, that was his statement to the media. I think calling his comments about Whipple on some podcast a "childish and classless public bashing" is a little over the top.

OC is pretty much a revolving door position.

Any theories as to why Whipple's Nebraska offense was ranked 102nd last year & he is unemployed this year?

Also, any theories why the last few QBs he's recruited are also non-factors? Davis Beville, Chubba Purdy, Joey Yellen?
 
It took Scott Frost all of one game to publicly throw Whipple under the bus. Narduzzi didn't say anything until he left, three years after he was hired.

People believe what they want to believe.
 
Well, whether it's bullshit or not, that was his statement to the media. I think calling his comments about Whipple on some podcast a "childish and classless public bashing" is a little over the top.

OC is pretty much a revolving door position.

Any theories as to why Whipple's Nebraska offense was ranked 102nd last year & he is unemployed this year?

Also, any theories why the last few QBs he's recruited are also non-factors? Davis Beville, Chubba Purdy, Joey Yellen?
What's your theory on why he ran the most productive and highest scoring offense in school history? I'm sure in your mind it was all because of Kenny Pickett and one elite receiver.

I'm not gonna make excuses for the guy, but I will say this--no OC or coach on earth could have had any kind of success at Nebraska in Year 1 there walking into that absolute dumpster fire. Frost was already scandalized and everyone knew he was certain to be fired (and was fired after 3 games), the team was lost, players had quit, the program environment was toxic, and the quarterback was somebody named Casey Thompson.
 
It took Scott Frost all of one game to publicly throw Whipple under the bus. Narduzzi didn't say anything until he left, three years after he was hired.

People believe what they want to believe.
The fact that you can;t bring yourself to admit the obvious--that Narduzzi's post mortem comments about Whipple, and for that matter Canada, were asinine and buffoonish, says a lot.

Bashing a guy for throwing the ball too much after he delivers the best offensive season in school history justifiably made Dooz a national laughingstock. You know that, and your failure to acknowledge it is laughable.

"We have better people in those positions now, I'll guarantee you that."
 
What's your theory on why he ran the most productive and highest scoring offense in school history? I'm sure in your mind it was all because of Kenny Pickett and one elite receiver.

I'm not gonna make excuses for the guy, but I will say this--no OC or coach on earth could have had any kind of success at Nebraska in Year 1 there walking into that absolute dumpster fire. Frost was already scandalized and everyone knew he was certain to be fired (and was fired after 3 games), the team was lost, players had quit, the program environment was toxic, and the quarterback was somebody named Casey Thompson.

Some of it is schedule.

That 2021 offense finished 22 in F+ rankings. Which is very good. But helped out somewhat in that the two offenses before it finished 80 and 104.

The 2016 offense finished 3rd, and I’d argue had less talent and faced a tougher defensive schedule.
 
Bashing a guy for throwing the ball too much after he delivers the best offensive season in school history justifiably made Dooz a national laughingstock. You know that, and your failure to acknowledge it is laughable.

"We have better people in those positions now, I'll guarantee you that."

This is true from a national perception standpoint.

The guys on Cover 3 this week were taking shots and for this exact reason. Right or wrong, Naruduzzi has created a perception that he hated 2021, and he’d rather lose the “right way” than win throwing the ball.
 
He added, “Our old offensive coordinator had no desire to run the ball. Everybody knew it; he was stubborn. Wake Forest was 118th in run defense, and we threw the ball every down. When we ran it, we ran it for 10 yards, but that wasn’t good enough.”

“I think when you throw the ball 85 percent of the time, and you’ve got people teeing off on the pass rush, we didn’t make it easy on Kenny,” Narduzzi said.

Whipple left Pitt for Nebraska. He was replaced by Frank Cignetti Jr., and Narduzzi also has a new receivers coach/passing game coordinator in Tiquan Underwood. “We’ve got better people coaching on those positions on offense, I guarantee you that,” Narduzzi said.
Everyone on college football laughed when Pitt hired Cignetti.
 
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Am I being a bad Pitt fan if I hope that Jerk starts Saturday and Pitt gets blown out?
Thus forcing HCPN to make some realistic changes.
 
The fact that you can;t bring yourself to admit the obvious--that Narduzzi's post mortem comments about Whipple, and for that matter Canada, were asinine and buffoonish, says a lot.

Bashing a guy for throwing the ball too much after he delivers the best offensive season in school history justifiably made Dooz a national laughingstock. You know that, and your failure to acknowledge it is laughable.

"We have better people in those positions now, I'll guarantee you that."
Yeah, you really need to back up things like he said with as good or better performance and he hasn’t. And he’s not even backing down with either, with his moronic statements about Jurkovec and refusal to change anything. He is looking and sounding like a real stooge this year.

He has basically destroyed whatever respect and good will he built in the past 8 seasons with this disaster.

He still gets paid, he still has his huge gated mansion in the north hills, and he’d get another job fairly easily if he left here, so what’s he care…but the university should definitely care. Things will be quite lean next spring with fewer sales and donations.

And they should be. Such stupidity should be punished. He has bosses, if only in theory. Intervention should have been done. If it bothered him to the point of considering to leave, so be it. It’s one thing to lose; he should be given benefit of the doubt for a bit of a dog season, after a couple good ones…Pitt is never going to be a juggernaut that wins big every year. But I don’t think even his ardent supporters can believe what we’re seeing unfold in this gruesome campaign. That’s a revenue buster for sure.
 
What's your theory on why he ran the most productive and highest scoring offense in school history? I'm sure in your mind it was all because of Kenny Pickett and one elite receiver.

I'm not gonna make excuses for the guy, but I will say this--no OC or coach on earth could have had any kind of success at Nebraska in Year 1 there walking into that absolute dumpster fire. Frost was already scandalized and everyone knew he was certain to be fired (and was fired after 3 games), the team was lost, players had quit, the program environment was toxic, and the quarterback was somebody named Casey Thompson.
Because he did a great job developing Kenny Pickett and he had a great deal of talent surrounding him.

You were also very critical of Whipple in Year 1 & 2. You were critical of the lack of a running game, and also his play calling.

I'm of the belief that Whipple had no interest in returning to Pitt after Pickett graduated. He was at Pitt for 3 years and failed to bring in successor at QB. Not even one that was remotely close to P5 starting ability. Seriously, what was another year of Whipple going to look like? I'm pretty sure it would resemble Pitt 2019 & Nebraska 22 a lot more than Pitt 21.
 
This is true from a national perception standpoint.

The guys on Cover 3 this week were taking shots and for this exact reason. Right or wrong, Naruduzzi has created a perception that he hated 2021, and he’d rather lose the “right way” than win throwing the ball.
Which is totally wrong. He's always stressed balance. Almost every one of his in-game interviews involve critique of the passing game and getting that going.
The hilarious thing is there are actually fans out there that think schools should react and make knee-jerk coaching moves based on perception.
 
Am I being a bad Pitt fan if I hope that Jerk starts Saturday and Pitt gets blown out?
Thus forcing HCPN to make some realistic changes.
Unfortunately it shouldn’t have to come down to that.

A top tier coach would know that the bottom line is winning. Therefore you must do what you can to win every game. That means changing QB’s if necessary for the good of the team. (You know, we not me)… Top tier coaches like Dabo & Saban didn’t hesitate to make the move when necessary…
 
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Unfortunately it shouldn’t have to come down to that.

A top tier coach would know that the bottom line is winning. Therefore you must do what you can to win every game. That means changing QB’s if necessary for the good of the team. (You know, we not me)… Top tier coaches like Dabo & Saban didn’t hesitate to make the move when necessary…
Dabo & Saban both have it easy. They don't care if one of their young QBs crash and burn. Both are really secure in their job & they will just go out and buy another QB. It still hasn't stopped Dabo from struggling with his QBs since Trevor left.

Same for Saban. He could give two shits less if Tyler Buchner & Ty Simpson both transferred out after this year. They have no future at Alabama. I don't think he really wants to put Dylan Lonergan out there this year though. He might need him around next year.
 
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