Clarification on ACC bowl selections

[Sean Miller Fan]

After the NY6 bowl teams, the Russell Athletic Bowl picks first.

Then come the Tier 1 bowls or whatever you want to call them. There is NO picking order. There are 5 bowls for 4 slots. The bowls send the ACC the teams they are hoping for and the teams send the ACC the bowls they are hoping for and the ACC works with the teams and bowls for best fit.

These bowls are:
Pinstripe
Belk
Sun
Gator/Music City

If the Pinstripe Bowl writes down Pitt and Pitt writes down Pinstripe Bowl, that's where we go.

If teams cant be matched on their own, the ACC steps in and works with eveyone to create the best situations.

Common sense would tell me that Pitt is staying in the north and heading to the Bronx.

Miami to the Gator makes sense.

NCSU to Charlotte

Duke to Sun

This assumes that 3 of Clem, FSU, UNC, and ND get NY6 games. If only 1 or 2 do, Duke and possibly another team get knocked down (NCSU if they lose to UNC) to the next tier.

There is the slight possibility that a loss to Miami could bump us all the way down to the Tier 2 bowls (Detroit, Annapolis, Shreveport). But, a lot would have to happen.

 

[WNYPanther]

We're not getting bumped to tier 2, even with a loss we finish no worse than tied for 3rd overall in the conference and 2nd in the division is already locked up. I also wouldn't count Louisville out of a tier 1 bowl. Louisville, NC St, Duke & Miami could all finish 7-5 and in that scenario the Cards have the best conference record. NC St likely finishes with a losing record in the ACC so they might be a hard sell to a tier 1 bowl & Louisville may get the nod over Duke & Miami as historically they tend to travel to bowls much better.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Each of those games is attractive for different reasons. Personally, I think I would prefer the Music City Bowl - unless Pinstripe is against Penn State. However, I could go for any of them.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

We're not getting bumped to tier 2, even with a loss we finish no worse than tied for 3rd overall in the conference and 2nd in the division is already locked up. I also wouldn't count Louisville out of a tier 1 bowl. Louisville, NC St, Duke & Miami could all finish 7-5 and in that scenario the Cards have the best conference record. NC St likely finishes with a losing record in the ACC so they might be a hard sell to a tier 1 bowl & Louisville may get the nod over Duke & Miami as historically they tend to travel to bowls much better.

I said a lot would have to happen for us to get bumped to Tier 2. Here's what it is:

NCSU beats UNC to finish 8-4. They get Tier 1 due to fan travel.

Miami beats to finish 8-4 and gets Tier 1 because they draw good TV numbers for casual gans.

FSU loses to UF knocking them out of a NY6 game.

ND loses to Stanford potentially knocking them out of a NY6 game.

UNC loses to Clemson knocking them out of a NY6 game.

If all these things happened, it would be:

Orange: Clemson
RA: ND
Tier 1: FSU, UNC, NCSU, Miami

It is possible though that even with a loss to Stanford, ND stays in Top 11 for NY6 game moving everyone up 1 and Pitt into Tier 1. That said, right now I'd say there is only like a 5% chance we fall to Tier 2.

 

[FourPanthers]

We're not getting bumped to tier 2, even with a loss we finish no worse than tied for 3rd overall in the conference and 2nd in the division is already locked up. I also wouldn't count Louisville out of a tier 1 bowl. Louisville, NC St, Duke & Miami could all finish 7-5 and in that scenario the Cards have the best conference record. NC St likely finishes with a losing record in the ACC so they might be a hard sell to a tier 1 bowl & Louisville may get the nod over Duke & Miami as historically they tend to travel to bowls much better.

The bowls don't care about conference record as much as they care about traveling fans. That's where we will suffer!

 

[zapirk]

The bowls don't care about conference record as much as they care about traveling fans. That's where we will suffer!

We may not have the large traveling fanbase, but Pitt gets good tv numbers, and if we are ranked could get even better TV numbers, tv is what makes the bowls money correct?

 

[oldpanther]

After the NY6 bowl teams, the Russell Athletic Bowl picks first.

Then come the Tier 1 bowls or whatever you want to call them. There is NO picking order. There are 5 bowls for 4 slots. The bowls send the ACC the teams they are hoping for and the teams send the ACC the bowls they are hoping for and the ACC works with the teams and bowls for best fit.

These bowls are:
Pinstripe
Belk
Sun
Gator/Music City

If the Pinstripe Bowl writes down Pitt and Pitt writes down Pinstripe Bowl, that's where we go.

If teams cant be matched on their own, the ACC steps in and works with eveyone to create the best situations.

Common sense would tell me that Pitt is staying in the north and heading to the Bronx.

Miami to the Gator makes sense.

NCSU to Charlotte

Duke to Sun

This assumes that 3 of Clem, FSU, UNC, and ND get NY6 games. If only 1 or 2 do, Duke and possibly another team get knocked down (NCSU if they lose to UNC) to the next tier.

There is the slight possibility that a loss to Miami could bump us all the way down to the Tier 2 bowls (Detroit, Annapolis, Shreveport). But, a lot would have to happen.

Of the above tier 1 groupi I would think that Pitt and or players would prefer the Gator or Music bowl.

 

[topdecktiger]

The bowls don't care about conference record as much as they care about traveling fans. That's where we will suffer!

The ACC does have a rule that you have to be within 1 or 2 games of the higher team to jump them. You can't just pick anybody.

 

[yourhired]

My understanding and I could be wrong that the ACC changed the rules this year and each eligible school could hold informal discussions with bowl representatives and come to an agreement on the qt. PSU is not going back to Pinstripe so Pitt fans need to forget that. Wisconsin will not want to play Pitt for obvious reasons so that's why I think Pitt will land in one of the bowls that play the SEC.

 

[jrvmvp]

We may not have the large traveling fanbase, but Pitt gets good tv numbers, and if we are ranked could get even better TV numbers, tv is what makes the bowls money correct?

Cities hosting bowls want fans in the seats, hotels and restaurants/bars......

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The ACC does have a rule that you have to be within 1 or 2 games of the higher team to jump them. You can't just pick anybody.

Correct me if Im wrong but I dont think you can jump a whole tier. For example, last year we were 6-6 and wanted to play in the Pinstripe against PSU but they went with 7-5 BC. We were within 1 win of BC and beat them but were told we couldn't jump them.

I think maybe the 1 win rule applies to the Russell Athletic Bowl only.

 

[Pittx9]

If we beat Miami, it is a joke if we get passed over by the TaxSlayer Bowl.

 

[Hailpitt]

If we beat Miami and do not receive Taxslayer Bowl invite I will never pay taxes again