Clemson potentially on the move?

[HailToPitt725]

Article is behind a paywall, but The Post & Courier in South Carolina is reporting that Clemson found a way out of the Grant of Rights. University administrator is on record saying that it will be happening “sooner than later.” Some have speculated it to be as early as next month.

 

[NatronaHeightsPanther]

If there was even a tiny crack in the grant of rights, the attorneys the ACC used should be disbarred. That being said, I would think the ACC would fight that in court, and Clemson and whoever else would have to prove that loophole they think they found is actually legit.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Article is behind a paywall, but The Post & Courier in South Carolina is reporting that Clemson found a way out of the Grant of Rights. University administrator is on record saying that it will be happening “sooner than later.” Some have speculated it to be as early as next month.

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Yawn. Just leave and we'll see you in court.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Good luck - of course , where are are they going ?
B10?

 

[pittdan77]

Starting this during the season would be quite the flex.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Clemson bout to be the new Miss State!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Good luck - of course , where are are they going ?
B10?

The Big Ten would love to have FSU, Clem, UNC. The SEC doesn't want FSU or Clem but may take them to keep the B10 out of the south

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Not trying to sound facetious, but this is why we brought in the three new schools. We know it's coming at some point.

 

[cruzer]

I'm sick of reading about these guys leaving. Just go. Yes you'll get all that SEC money but I can hardly wait to hear how happy Clemson fans are when they finish in the middle of the SEC pack year after year.

 

[jivecat]

They are not going anywhere but court.

They do not have a viable market. Florida State or UNC are the prize in the ACC.

 

[DruidTM]

Clemson not exactly in the same position as 5 years ago…

 

[forbesfield]

Certainly unclear to me what Clemson could offer to the Big Ten.

 

[lilspainishflea]

Article is behind a paywall, but The Post & Courier in South Carolina is reporting that Clemson found a way out of the Grant of Rights. University administrator is on record saying that it will be happening “sooner than later.” Some have speculated it to be as early as next month.

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If Clemson found a way out of the GOR, they'd serve notice to the ACC rather than leak their master plan to a newspaper in Charleston.

This is literally the same thing we've heard from anonymous "sources" for years.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'm sick of reading about these guys leaving. Just go. Yes you'll get all that SEC money but I can hardly wait to hear how happy Clemson fans are when they finish in the middle of the SEC pack year after year.

Are you kidding? They will be ecstatic. Winning is secondary to these fans. The most important thing is how much money their programs make. If you asked Rutgers fans if they'd rather go 9-3 in the ACC every year or 3-9 in the B10, they'd happily choose the B10.

 

[Saboteur II]

If there was even a tiny crack in the grant of rights, the attorneys the ACC used should be disbarred. That being said, I would think the ACC would fight that in court, and Clemson and whoever else would have to prove that loophole they think they found is actually legit.

Their E&O coverage won’t put a dent in the damages suffered.

 

[forbesfield]

Are you kidding? They will be ecstatic. Winning is secondary to these fans. The most important thing is how much money their programs make. If you asked Rutgers fans if they'd rather go 9-3 in the ACC every year or 3-9 in the B10, they'd happily choose the B10.

It's not just the money. It's the seat at the table.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

If Clemson found a way out of the GOR, they'd serve notice to the ACC rather than leak their master plan to a newspaper in Charleston.

This is literally the same thing we've heard from anonymous "sources" for years.

Correct. It's just more clickbait.

 

[HailToPitt725]

Certainly unclear to me what Clemson could offer to the Big Ten.

Nothing akin to what they’re used to (AAU/markets), which is why I think they’d land in the SEC. They seemed to be focused on staying within their current footprint and making football-first additions without any other considerations.

 

[Jakey_John]

Pitt knows a way out too and they’re going to pounce. To hear more call 1-900-Panther-Pi**. It’s 1.49 for the first minute and .99 each additional minute. Call now. Kids, if you’re under 18 get your parents permission first.

 

[PittPharm2002]

If Clemson found a way out of the GOR, they'd serve notice to the ACC rather than leak their master plan to a newspaper in Charleston.

This is literally the same thing we've heard from anonymous "sources" for years.

Correct

 

[cease10]

Sound like they're just trying to distract from the losing and Dabo's relectunace to use the portal.

 

[cruzer]

Are you kidding? They will be ecstatic. Winning is secondary to these fans. The most important thing is how much money their programs make. If you asked Rutgers fans if they'd rather go 9-3 in the ACC every year or 3-9 in the B10, they'd happily choose the B10.

Sorry, but I think that's BS. Fans don't go to the game because the school generates millions in conference revenue. They go because they want their team to win. All the money in the world doesn't mean crap to fans if the team stinks.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Sorry, but I think that's BS. Fans don't go to the game because the school generates millions in conference revenue. They go because they want their team to win. All the money in the world doesn't mean crap to fans if the team stinks.

Also correct
Fans who care about conference payouts are friggin weirdos with nothing else to worry about

 

[mlvnsmly]

Here's the story:
https://web.archive.org/web/2023092...cle_844ab88a-5b9d-11ee-bf7f-13daaf7cde8d.html

 

[Hardslider21]

The Big Ten would love to have FSU, Clem, UNC. The SEC doesn't want FSU or Clem but may take them to keep the B10 out of the south

I don’t know so much about Clemson.
UNC and FSU definitely are on the B1G radar, as is Duke and Virginia

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Here's the story:
https://web.archive.org/web/2023092...cle_844ab88a-5b9d-11ee-bf7f-13daaf7cde8d.html

LOL, this board has provided more insight than that article. It's B12 fanboy worthy.

 

[mlvnsmly]

LOL, this board has provided more insight than that article

Article is behind a paywall, but The Post & Courier in South Carolina is reporting that Clemson found a way out of the Grant of Rights. University administrator is on record saying that it will be happening “sooner than later.” Some have speculated it to be as early as next month.

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Based in the full article, it sounds like the way out is............pay.

 

[ThePanthers]

It’s only a matter of when and how much.

 

[MorningCoffee13]

This sounds exactly like the stuff the FSU leaders were saying just a couple of months ago and pfffffft.

 

[NKSplitter]

Not trying to sound facetious, but this is why we brought in the three new schools. We know it's coming at some point.

Wondering if the incoming schools have any contingencies in their agreement to join the ACC that allows backing out if certain schools leave the conference prior to a certain date.

If I were Stanford or Cal and the scenerio came up where Clemson, Florida State, UNC, and Virginia all left the conference before playing game 1 in the league; I think at that point I'd rather regroup with Oregon State and Washington State on rebuilding the PAC with the best Mountain West and AAC teams than joining the ACC.

 

[thebadby2]

Sorry, but I think that's BS. Fans don't go to the game because the school generates millions in conference revenue. They go because they want their team to win. All the money in the world doesn't mean crap to fans if the team stinks.

And the converse is true-the schools are only concerned with getting the money, they could give a rats ass what their fans want or care about. Exactly zero of these conference moves to date have been based in any way on what the fans would prefer.

 

[cruzer]

And the converse is true-the schools are only concerned with getting the money, they could give a rats ass what their fans want or care about. Exactly zero of these conference moves to date have been based in any way on what the fans would prefer.

Absolutely. The schools are only interested in the dollars. The only reason they even care one iota about the fans is that many are alumni and the schools want to hit them up for more donations.

 

[Las Panteras]

Sorry, but I think that's BS. Fans don't go to the game because the school generates millions in conference revenue. They go because they want their team to win. All the money in the world doesn't mean crap to fans if the team stinks.

Pitt winning a watered down ACC (no FSU, Clemson, UNC), would be far less impactful for me than going 8-4 in a respected conference.

 

[cruzer]

Pitt winning a watered down ACC (no FSU, Clemson, UNC), would be far less impactful for me than going 8-4 in a respected conference.

And how would you feel about Pitt going 4-8 in a respected conference? But we'd have all that money.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Sorry, but I think that's BS. Fans don't go to the game because the school generates millions in conference revenue. They go because they want their team to win. All the money in the world doesn't mean crap to fans if the team stinks.

Its a very strange phenomenon, yes, but its true. Fans have this weird obsession with how much money their football team makes. They'd rather their team lose more games in a better league than win more games in a lesser league. For example, Clemson and FSU can challenge for the new 12 team CFP forever in the ACC but their fans would much rather them go 8-4 in the SEC.

 

[forbesfield]

Its a very strange phenomenon, yes, but its true. Fans have this weird obsession with how much money their football team makes. They'd rather their team lose more games in a better league than win more games in a lesser league. For example, Clemson and FSU can challenge for the new 12 team CFP forever in the ACC but their fans would much rather them go 8-4 in the SEC.

That's not the whole story. The rush to get into the SEC or the Big Ten isn't just for the money. As I said before, it's a seat at the table. Everybody expects a superconference eventually, and they probably figure it's best to start with a seat at the table, at least, and hope that you can stay there. In due course, the ACC and the Big 12 will be left out, more than likely.

 

[MorningCoffee13]

That's not the whole story. The rush to get into the SEC or the Big Ten isn't just for the money. As I said before, it's a seat at the table. Everybody expects a superconference eventually, and they probably figure it's best to start with a seat at the table, at least, and hope that you can stay there. In due course, the ACC and the Big 12 will be left out, more than likely.

A super conference won’t be made of two existing conferences. It will be a selection of everyone. 48 teams. 8 divisions with six teams each split into two conferences a la the NFL. It will be based on what brings the most money.

 

[pafootballguy]

I think most of the drive for more money by schools and the hope for by fans is because of the fear of getting left behind when players are inevitably called employees and they get a piece of the revenue. I also think many right or wrong believe that their rival in another conference will be able to outspend them to wins.

 

[thebadby2]

Its a very strange phenomenon, yes, but its true. Fans have this weird obsession with how much money their football team makes. They'd rather their team lose more games in a better league than win more games in a lesser league. For example, Clemson and FSU can challenge for the new 12 team CFP forever in the ACC but their fans would much rather them go 8-4 in the SEC.

I don't buy that. Fans want wins, everything else is secondary. And for crappy programs like Buttgers or Maryland, conference prestige and money matters more because they lose in whatever league they play in.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

A super conference won’t be made of two existing conferences. It will be a selection of everyone. 48 teams. 8 divisions with six teams each split into two conferences a la the NFL. It will be based on what brings the most money.

NOOOOOO!!!!!

The Big Ten and SEC are not folding.

There will be a Big Ten and an SEC....forever.