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Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP. 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.
 
Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP. 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.

The Ohio St/Oregon loser will be the 5 seed, not PSU.

PSU is going to host either SMU/Miami, or one of the SEC teams.
 
It'd be fantastic to watch SMU beat Penn State in State College.
Either SMU or Boise State winning the national championship in the first year of the 12 team playoff would IMO be the funniest outcome. I have no doubt there would be a lot of "This wasn't supposed to happen" type whining out of the SEC and B1G camps(plus if it was SMU, it would make FSU's line item about SMU not being a high enough caliber addition to the conference in their ACC lawsuit subject to further ridicule).

Really not sure what to expect. I would say the winner of the B1G championship game is the odds-on favorite; but the way the SEC has been cannibalizing itself down the stretch I think things are wide open after that.
 
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Dude, quit your obsession with Franklin and PSU already. You do realize the amount of talent it takes to be so good that all you have to do is show up? I wish Pitt could do that.

You and everyone else sounds like clowns when you say this nonsense.
 
I give Franklin credit, they are almost certain to go 11-1 this year. He exceeded my expectations, I was thinking they'd go 10-2. I thought he would slip up in a road game somewhere along the way, but he won them. It helped that USC and Wisconsin were under .500 in conference. Washington was another opponent on their schedule that at the start of the year that might have looked like decent competition but they in all likelihood will also finish under .500.
 
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Interesting topic. Would like to know who posters believe is the best team the nits have beaten so far this year?

I’ll hang up and listen. 😏
 
Washington was another opponent on their schedule that at the start of the year that might have looked like decent competition

I dont understand this thinking. They lost their coach LATE and 21 starters. Most of the portal was accounted for. I posted something back then that Washington may go 0-12. I was being sarcastic but I expected them to be really bad. They exceeded my expectations.
 
The Ohio St/Oregon loser will be the 5 seed, not PSU.

PSU is going to host either SMU/Miami, or one of the SEC teams.

If Oregon beats OSU, PSU will be 5 so that we avoid 3 OSU/Oregon games. I mean, yes, 11-2 OSU should be ahead of 11-1 PSU but if you make OSU #5, you are almost guaranteeing a 3rd OSU/Oregon game.

The 5 seed is such a great seed because you get a defacto 1st Round bye vs the B12 Champ. Then you get another defacto bye against Boise State. Since PSU & Oregon didnt play this year, I would think they give PSU those 2 byes to set up an Oregon vs PSU semifinal and a B10/SEC final. OSU, if they lose to Oregon, would likely be #6 and then play 9-3 Alabama in a game for the ages and then Miami/SMU. I think Bama gets in. If not them, who? 11-2 SMU with no good wins?
 
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Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP.1G 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.
You’re a joke, I’m a GT graduate with a Pitt graduate daughter. Hate is one thing but lying about a team is another. Their schedule is no different than Pitt. You don’t like the B1G, doesn’t make their schedule soft. People like you make it hard to root for Pitt .
 
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Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP. 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.
Most of those so-called girls teams would either have beaten us, or it would have been a very close game. Don't let your hatred cloud your usually already clouded judgement.

I'm not sure what the guy is supposed to do, other than beat the team he's playing. He doesn't make the Big Ten schedule. He may well lose in the first round, but so will half of the teams playing in the first round. Doesn't mean they all suck.

Dude can be unlikable at times, which puts him in a very non-elite group. I can't stomach at least half of the well-known college football coaches.
 
So towards the end of the first half, PSU has the ball and was driving and it was 3rd down Allar threw a deep pass that floated I dunno almost 10 yards out of bounds. The PSU WR and Minnesota DB had some typical hand fighting. The ref called a PI penalty on the Minn DB. It was the most egregiously bad PI call. Even Gene Steratore said not only was the pass not catchable, but there was no PI. One of the worst calls I have seen. PSU gets the 1st down and scores before half. Without that? They lose.

You don't think these conference refs know the score in regards to getting as many playoff games for their conferences as possible??
 
So towards the end of the first half, PSU has the ball and was driving and it was 3rd down Allar threw a deep pass that floated I dunno almost 10 yards out of bounds. The PSU WR and Minnesota DB had some typical hand fighting. The ref called a PI penalty on the Minn DB. It was the most egregiously bad PI call. Even Gene Steratore said not only was the pass not catchable, but there was no PI. One of the worst calls I have seen. PSU gets the 1st down and scores before half. Without that? They lose.

You don't think these conference refs know the score in regards to getting as many playoff games for their conferences as possible??
I thought it was a questionable call, as well, but I do take issue with the uncatchable part. Does a ball being "uncatchable" mean that under no circumstances can a penalty be called? Can the defensive back just hold and hold and hold, or body slam the receiver to the ground, or even pull his jersey over his helmet, and still not be called for a penalty just because the throw sailed too far out over the line? Giving total dispensation in that setting doesn't seem right to me. What if the QB throws it away intentionally because the receiver isn't where he's supposed to be because he's being interfered with?
 
I thought it was a questionable call, as well, but I do take issue with the uncatchable part. Does a ball being "uncatchable" mean that under no circumstances can a penalty be called? Can the defensive back just hold and hold and hold, or body slam the receiver to the ground, or even pull his jersey over his helmet, and still not be called for a penalty just because the throw sailed too far out over the line? Giving total dispensation in that setting doesn't seem right to me. What if the QB throws it away intentionally because the receiver isn't where he's supposed to be because he's being interfered with?
I'm not a ref but I believe that would make it holding and not PI. Still automatic 1st down, but only 5 yards as opposed to 15.

With respect to what you say about an intentional throw away, remember in college, you can "interfere with" (you can't hold, but you can jam him, even jam him so hard as to knock him down) a receiver at any point on the field, you just can't do it while the ball is in the air.
 
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I thought it was a questionable call, as well, but I do take issue with the uncatchable part. Does a ball being "uncatchable" mean that under no circumstances can a penalty be called? Can the defensive back just hold and hold and hold, or body slam the receiver to the ground, or even pull his jersey over his helmet, and still not be called for a penalty just because the throw sailed too far out over the line?

I think this answer is yes. If its uncatchable, it cant be a penalty. I know you are being sarcastic but if the DB bodyslammed the WR, it would be a personal foul but you can't call PI on an uncatchable ball.
 
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You’re a joke, I’m a GT graduate with a Pitt graduate daughter. Hate is one thing but lying about a team is another. Their schedule is no different than Pitt. You don’t like the B1G, doesn’t make their schedule soft. People like you make it hard to root for Pitt .

Lying about a team? WTF are you talking about. Depending on some outcomes this weekend, PSU may only have 1 win over a team with a winning record and that Illi-friggin-ois, who themselves may not own a win over a team with a winning record.

I didnt say our schedule was harder. I didn't say we'd beat the girls teams they play. But their schedule was extremely easy. B10 football is really bad. Its OSU and Oregon and the rest of the league is the ACC.
 
I thought it was a questionable call, as well, but I do take issue with the uncatchable part. Does a ball being "uncatchable" mean that under no circumstances can a penalty be called? Can the defensive back just hold and hold and hold, or body slam the receiver to the ground, or even pull his jersey over his helmet, and still not be called for a penalty just because the throw sailed too far out over the line? Giving total dispensation in that setting doesn't seem right to me. What if the QB throws it away intentionally because the receiver isn't where he's supposed to be because he's being interfered with?
OK......but Gene Steratore even said if the ball was in the middle of the field it still wasn't pass interference or holding. It was just normal play between offense and defense. Nothing egregious or intrusive to hold up a receiver to catch the ball. Of course in this case, he has a better chance of catching it sitting next to the water cooler.
 
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I think this answer is yes. If its uncatchable, it cant be a penalty. I know you are being sarcastic but if the DB bodyslammed the WR, it would be a personal foul but you can't call PI on an uncatchable ball.
But the defender wasn't just holding, holding, holding it was just normal hand fighting that lasted for like 2 seconds. It wasn't a penalty regardless if the ball was catchable or not, which it wasn't.
 
But the defender wasn't just holding, holding, holding it was just normal hand fighting that lasted for like 2 seconds. It wasn't a penalty regardless if the ball was catchable or not, which it wasn't.

Didnt see it and I dont ever think refs knowingly cheat but in these instances, human nature kicks in. You cannot make a 50/50 call or a 40/60 call to go against your employer. If there's any doubt, you side with your employer. I mean can you imagine making a legit bad call that keeps PSU out of the CFP. That costs your employer tens of millions. And this is why I say time after time that it should be like basketball. Referees shouldn't be employees of a conference.
 
Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP. 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.
Your fixation on PSU is always comical. But congrats to him for doing what no Pitt coach in 50 years has done. I wish I knew how it felt to beat all the teams we are supposed to.
 
The flaw in this is that you’re singling out Penn State. There are a lot of highly ranked teams with poor SOS numbers. There are teams in the top 10, including one (2 depending on whose SOS you use) ahead of PSU with weaker SOS ratings.
 
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Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP. 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.
Dropping divisions and expanding playoff just what the doctor ordered for them. The early polls drool over them. Expecting them to make it alot with a high number of home openers with decent matchups.
 
The flaw in this is that you’re singling out Penn State. There are a lot of highly ranked teams with poor SOS numbers. There are teams in the top 10, including one ahead of PSU with weaker SOS ratings.

I am really surprised at how weak PSU and Texas's schedule have been, especially Texas. How did they avoid every good SEC team except Alabama?

The thing with Texas and PSU is you almost have to look at their schedules like they are mid-majors like Boise and then stepped up in class for 1 game and lost. Take that 1 game off the SOS and its a mid-major schedule.
 
I am really surprised at how weak PSU and Texas's schedule have been, especially Texas. How did they avoid every good SEC team except Alabama?

The thing with Texas and PSU is you almost have to look at their schedules like they are mid-majors like Boise and then stepped up in class for 1 game and lost. Take that 1 game off the SOS and its a mid-major schedule.
A lot has changed in college football with the move of PAC 12 teams. Longer travel is hurting the perception in some ways. USC, for example, has 1 home loss. Their failures were on the road. You may not see it the week of the actual game, but it catches up to you. Attrition will take effect as well.

Penn State lost 2 starting linemen for the rest of the season this week, one on O and one on D. They do not plug and play on the LOS like Ohio State or Alabama or Georgia.

Free for all portaling and pay for play have changed football a lot quicker than people realize. I’ll bet this is the new norm.
 
Didnt see it and I dont ever think refs knowingly cheat but in these instances, human nature kicks in. You cannot make a 50/50 call or a 40/60 call to go against your employer. If there's any doubt, you side with your employer. I mean can you imagine making a legit bad call that keeps PSU out of the CFP. That costs your employer tens of millions. And this is why I say time after time that it should be like basketball. Referees shouldn't be employees of a conference.


This is so obviously true, and clearly the reason why Alabama beat Oklahoma this weekend. And Ole Miss beat Florida. And BYU beat Arizona State. And Texas A&M beat Auburn. And Colorado beat Kansas. Why I'll bet if these refs weren't cheating, either consciously or unconsciously, at least one of those games would have ended up in an upset.

Wait a second...
 
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This is so obviously true, and clearly the reason why Alabama beat Oklahoma this weekend. And Ole Miss beat Florida. And BYU beat Arizona State. And Texas A&M beat Auburn. And Colorado beat Kansas. Why I'll bet if these refs weren't cheating, either consciously or unconsciously, at least one of those games would have ended up in an upset.

Wait a second...
Those games… the teams got their asses kicker
When it’s 24-3 one call doesn’t change the game
 
Those games… the teams got their asses kicker


You are correct. It's not like the Ole Miss - Florida game was a seven point game that came down to the last play of the game. And it's not like the BYU-Arizona State game was a five point game that came down to the last play of the game. And it's not like the Auburn-Texas A&M game didn't go to four overtimes.

I mean if any of those would have happened, then sure, but come on, those games were all ass kickers.

Wait a second....
 
You are correct. It's not like the Ole Miss - Florida game was a seven point game that came down to the last play of the game. And it's not like the BYU-Arizona State game was a five point game that came down to the last play of the game. And it's not like the Auburn-Texas A&M game didn't go to four overtimes.

I mean if any of those would have happened, then sure, but come on, those games were all ass kickers.

Wait a second....
Wait a second all the underdogs played a great game and were ahead and the favorites needed a miracle to have any chance

Auburn I was wrong…
 
Wait a second all the underdogs played a great game and were ahead and the favorites needed a miracle to have any chance

Auburn I was wrong…


I think at some level the underdogs probably did play at least a really good game. But I'm pretty sure that most people don't think one score games that come down to the last play are games that a team needed a miracle to win.
 
I think at some level the underdogs probably did play at least a really good game. But I'm pretty sure that most people don't think one score games that come down to the last play are games that a team needed a miracle to win.
Byu surely did and refs tried give them a chance anyway although time clearly had expired
Undermanned Florida dominated that game
No mention of Alabama ass kicking

I already admitted I was wrong on auburn..

No hard feelings we are probably 50/50 right wrong on this
I love you lol
 
Byu surely did and refs tried give them a chance anyway although time clearly had expired


I can't imagine how anyone could have watched that and thought that time had clearly expired. I mean they had the split screen, synced up video that clearly showed the ball landing in the crowd with there still one second left on the clock.

The only real question there was if the refs were going to say, "damn, look at all these fans on the field, it's going to take forever to get them off the field so we can finish the game, let's just pretend that we don't see what's obviously in front of our eyes and say the game is over."
 
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