Coordinators are overrated

[Sean Miller Fan]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

 

[UPitt '89]

Haha. Not even close to true.

A HC with an offensive background needs a strong defensive coordinator and vice versa.

If you can't see the difference between what Matt House did and what Josh Conklin did with the same players, I'm not sure what to tell you.

Coordinators are the main recruiters for their side of the ball, and set the gameplan and personnel decisions.

Chaney is the reason Peterman was here and starting.

For a defensive coach like Narduzzi, the OC is critical. For an offensive coach like Franklin, the DC is critical.

You're way off on this topic, smf.

 

[Consultant Panther]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

Wow...yet another ridiculous post by SMF.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

If you can't see the difference between what Matt House did and what Josh Conklin did with the same players, I'm not sure what to tell you.

The defense was pathetic in 2014 and bad in 2015 so if you want to credit Conklin for the improvement from pathetic to bad, go ahead.

The D's performance against Navy was the worst I've ever seen. 9 possessions, 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 punt, 1 fluke fumble. House couldn't do worse than that.

Like, I said, unless you have an elite coordinator (which Chaney and Conklin are not), it doesn't matter who you have. Everyone else is the same.

 

[Teh Teh]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

I was going to disagree with your title, then I read the explanation and say.... eh you are probably right on that one.

I will say that the title premise is probably only true for the coordinator that is the same side as the head coach. Like Walsh for the 49ers OC probably wasnt as important, and that job was more of an apprentice than a real coordinator. Now the opposite side of the ball... like the OC for Narduzzi, I think is rather important.

 

[bwh05]

Matt Cavanaugh. Matt House. The end.

 

[Gary77]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

You obviously don't know your azz from a hole in the ground. Your convenient rationalization and spin is a strong indication of your true loyalty. Get lost!

 

[OriginalEther]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

This from a guy, when previewing an upcoming Penn State game, referred to it by the DC.
Shoop's roided D, if I recall.

And yes, they do make a difference, especially when they are coaching the side of the ball that is not the head coach's area of expertise.

 

[dooz3]

Haha. Not even close to true.

A HC with an offensive background needs a strong defensive coordinator and vice versa.

If you can't see the difference between what Matt House did and what Josh Conklin did with the same players, I'm not sure what to tell you.

Coordinators are the main recruiters for their side of the ball, and set the gameplan and personnel decisions.

Chaney is the reason Peterman was here and starting.

For a defensive coach like Narduzzi, the OC is critical. For an offensive coach like Franklin, the DC is critical.

You're way off on this topic, smf.

Always wrong, always stupid, but hey you got us to add to the use count. Good job......

 

[9nationalchampionships]

The D started out well and tapered off as the season went on. I think the talent level caught up with us and the scheme helped us the first 4-5 games. Teams were able to pick up our blitzing but as our talent rises we will be able to put pressure on the QB without having to blitz. Our 2 new DEs will help out tremendously and if we can get some god LB play the D can be very good.

The defense was pathetic in 2014 and bad in 2015 so if you want to credit Conklin for the improvement from pathetic to bad, go ahead.

The D's performance against Navy was the worst I've ever seen. 9 possessions, 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 punt, 1 fluke fumble. House couldn't do worse than that.

Like, I said, unless you have an elite coordinator (which Chaney and Conklin are not), it doesn't matter who you have. Everyone else is the same.

 

[Swervin27]

The defense was pathetic in 2014 and bad in 2015 so if you want to credit Conklin for the improvement from pathetic to bad, go ahead.

The D's performance against Navy was the worst I've ever seen. 9 possessions, 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 punt, 1 fluke fumble. House couldn't do worse than that.

Like, I said, unless you have an elite coordinator (which Chaney and Conklin are not), it doesn't matter who you have. Everyone else is the same.

PItt gave up 109 points the last 3 games.. I agree, we are not there yet in terms of defense.. Not even close..

 

[DruidTM]

The defense was pathetic in 2014 and bad in 2015 so if you want to credit Conklin for the improvement from pathetic to bad, go ahead.

Most defenses looked bad against Navy this year

The D's performance against Navy was the worst I've ever seen. 9 possessions, 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 punt, 1 fluke fumble. House couldn't do worse than that.

Like, I said, unless you have an elite coordinator (which Chaney and Conklin are not), it doesn't matter who you have. Everyone else is the same.

Most defenses looked bad against 2015 Navy... What in the hell does that prove?

 

[thebadby2]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

Dumb post. Good coordinators are absolutely critical to a team's success. The really good ones stand out. The really good ones also tend not to get fired from lower tier power 5 jobs.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

Has to be a motive for such a simple statement...

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

Hmmnnn, cannot agree, since OC's & DC's is the number one positions where most Head Coaches come from, in CFB & NFL? Have to agree to disagree!

 

[dchst23]

For the most part, they are only as good as their players.

In my opinion, maybe 10% of coordinators are truly elite. 10% truly suck and the other 80% are roughly the same.

I think fans get way too excited and/or disappointed with coordinator hirings, firings, and their overall performance.

SMF never disappoints. Keep these brain farts coming!