Cost to fire Narduzzi
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Pay him out a million a year for the next 30 years and be done with him just like Bonilla
Maybe he’d go for it
Even by your standards, this is dumb.
They aren't suing anyone. And the hilarious thing is that the large majority of the people here were happy when she gave him that contract extension. After that ACC championship it was onward and upward for the Pitt Panthers with the great Pat Narduzzi as the head coach.
And some people tried to warn the majority, and were pretty much laughed at.
I am mostly joking about suing her but I would have someone see crossed all her I's and dotted all her T's regarding the volleyball Taj Mahal. Either way, Joan is going to have to fund Narduzzi's buyout. We can't have him coaching in 2026 if 2025 is another failure.
Gundy probably did something and agreed to a reduced salary to pay players to avoid getting fired for cause.
If they didn't sue Scott Barnes,.they aren't sueing anyone.
Lol. So you expect them to cough up 30 million AND pay a new coach AND be able to pay players?
I don’t get it, if you are not doing your job well and you really suck at it, why is there a buy out, most places, I you are not doing your job to the managements expectations you normally get fired, and you don’t get paid for getting fired, who came up with this buy out crap
don't forget about the quarter of a billion they owe on the volleyball shrine.
Sue Heather? You don't think all of the administrative sorts higher up the ladder also approved that deal? Of course they did. She doesn't get to write the big checks without her boss's agreeing with her at the time.
I don't understand why people don't realize that you can negotiate those numbers - or you can negotiate at least the payout terms. Pitt has a legal department and I'm sure they have some insight on how to get around these numbers. If not call some boys on Wall.
Yeah...I guess he just forgot those programs!
Basically were 7-1 with Eli and 0-5 without him. You guys who wish we could fire Narduzzi today (I'm not saying I like a 2030 extension myself!) might end up disappointed if we win 9 games next year.
So it seems to me that giving coaches these long term extensions will gradually become a thing of the past.
I mean....much of the thought process is to insure recruits your guy will be here throughout your career.
How is this even a consideration these days?
Im not sure....but I think the days of extending a coach for years / millions will gradually subside. In some small way its happening (Gundy, Norvell)
But we extended a mediocre coach, and we are now a shining example of what ineptitude looks like......
I mean....much of the thought process is to insure recruits your guy will be here throughout your career.
How is this even a consideration these days?
Im not sure....but I think the days of extending a coach for years / millions will gradually subside. In some small way its happening (Gundy, Norvell)
But we extended a mediocre coach, and we are now a shining example of what ineptitude looks like......
Rest assured, we are not winning nine games next year.
Actually the people who think that Narduzzi is not a good coach and wish he was no longer here would be ecstatic if we win nine games.
They just understand that the chances of that happening are exceedingly low.
I think that's true for most of us. Id be happy if he retired. There are a few real haters on this board I'm addressing who seem to actively root against any team Narduzzi and or Capel is coaching. You can tell who they are because they post more after losses than wins.
People should get off Capels ass already
He obviously inherited a shit house and has things heading in the right direction
There is some amount of money and circumstances where he walks away for well under 30 mil. Poke the bear; ask the questions.
Buyouts when firing a coach aren't negotiated. The number is the number. What is there to negotiate? If the contract says it's like 85% of remaining salary, then that's what it is. What can they negotiate?
Pitt: "Hey Pat, we are going to fire you but would like to negotiate your buyout."
Pat: "No thanks, I'll just take the amount written into the contract."
Hey, if he'd rather take 3 points and go to OT then 7 points and a win, maybe he'll take $12 million instead of $30 million. The good news is that he's clearly stupid enough to make a costly error in judgement. The bad news is that he's clearly got better judgement than anyone who's been associated with Pitt athletics for decades.
Still can't wrap my head around the rationale of the extension. Nobody was trying to take him away from us.
I don’t want to start a separate thread on this, so I’ll post this here:
Let’s say we finish below .500 next season and buyout the remainder of Coach Narduzzi’s contract. Anyone want to guess who we’d go after?
Let’s say we finish below .500 next season and buyout the remainder of Coach Narduzzi’s contract. Anyone want to guess who we’d go after?
I still can't believe Indiana signed Cignetti to an extension not even a full season on the job.
When Narduzzi got his extension, many were in favor of it. I thought he needed to prove that he could sustain the success because he still had time on his deal. Unless you have a proven championship coach or a coach who can get you 10 wins more often than not, it's worth taking a chance if another team will hire him away.
You have a point as he is clearly stupid. Unfortunately, he has an agent and a lawyer.
Mike Shanahan if IU has another good season. Can get him super cheap to offset the Narduzzi buyout. He probably even takes the hometown discount to be a HC.
Funny thing is, we have multiple former players (+ Tino Sunseri) rising in the coaching ranks that could theoretically take over the program some day… pretty cool.
I could be wrong here, but I think I remember him saying he doesn't even have an agent. Like maybe when there were rumors about him going back to MSU?
If so, he needs to get them to advise him on clock management and 4th down decisions.
Duzz's mistakes did not make me laugh or make me mad but they were/are at the level of certainty for being so wrong that I think he needs to own up AND leave or present a plan that assures his AD that they will not repeat(not possible)
there's many who jump to criticize him early and often with both minor and major parts of the program including of course how he communicates(poorly/arrogant/embarrassingly?) during pressers, with claims of poor recruiting and numerous other bits and pieces but to me this bowl game's blunders have reached at year 10 a level of inexcusable that must be addressed
I am far more only a casual fan of Pitt FB and can walk away from it much easier than I'd walk away from Pitt BB and that is simply from an enjoyment standpoint rather than anything else and my point of that is to say for me Duzz has proven he doesn't have the coaching acumen to perform at the level needed and will never break through again like he did with KP once
for me, I need to either enjoy the game or know Pitt can do something at or near the peak of winning and BB with Capel now has returned to that so even though I don't need that with BB because I enjoy the games empirically I do not see that potential with Duzz, ever
I kind of look at him during the games pathetically writing notes, holding hands, patting his guys coming off the field like he's putting out every effort.....and then massively screwing up his part in trying to have his kids win a "meaningless" game...... that's not meaningless, that's sad, but it's not sad at the cost of 6+M per
weird rant? probably.....early Happy New Year to all anyway, even to the Duzz who we all will endure for at least 1 or 2 more years
or more
there's many who jump to criticize him early and often with both minor and major parts of the program including of course how he communicates(poorly/arrogant/embarrassingly?) during pressers, with claims of poor recruiting and numerous other bits and pieces but to me this bowl game's blunders have reached at year 10 a level of inexcusable that must be addressed
I am far more only a casual fan of Pitt FB and can walk away from it much easier than I'd walk away from Pitt BB and that is simply from an enjoyment standpoint rather than anything else and my point of that is to say for me Duzz has proven he doesn't have the coaching acumen to perform at the level needed and will never break through again like he did with KP once
for me, I need to either enjoy the game or know Pitt can do something at or near the peak of winning and BB with Capel now has returned to that so even though I don't need that with BB because I enjoy the games empirically I do not see that potential with Duzz, ever
I kind of look at him during the games pathetically writing notes, holding hands, patting his guys coming off the field like he's putting out every effort.....and then massively screwing up his part in trying to have his kids win a "meaningless" game...... that's not meaningless, that's sad, but it's not sad at the cost of 6+M per
weird rant? probably.....early Happy New Year to all anyway, even to the Duzz who we all will endure for at least 1 or 2 more years
or more Bought out is the wrong wording. I meant how much would it cost you to fire him.
Yes back in 2016 some people on the board wanted Jamie Dixon fired (got Pitt into the NCAA almost every year) and replacing him was the answer to improving Pitt Basketball immediately.
Well it is now 2025 and Pitt basketball is now starting to get better.
Still waiting for Pitt to get into the NCAA's every year going forward to finally attain the success that Jamie had when he left.
Same logic of the same people who now want Narduzzi let go.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
The two are no where near equal. Dixon was making tournaments every year. Winning Big East tournaments. Nard did win an ACC championship, but no playoffs, and has lost all but 2 bowl games. There is no way you can compare those 2 coaches accomplishment.
Dixon felt more like Tomlin with the Steelers or Sullivan with the Penguins. Making the move wasn’t necessarily bad, but the hire afterwards was a disaster and not a guy that anyone wanted to replace Dixon.
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