Devonshire from the quips
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Because Pat Narduzzi is kinda dumb? That is my guess.
“Pride comes before the fall”
Narduzzi should have taken his own advice
Narduzzi should have taken his own advice
Looks like Urban Meyer has offered. But maybe Pat needs to check the tape first........
I don't understand why more underclassmen don't get offered earlier. Throw out offers early. Let's kids Know you're interested. Maybe that early offer makes a difference. If they start to slide or have issues, you just start to walk away. It really doesn't hurt to show kids your interested in them.
Maybe they like playing in front of passionate fans that care about their team.I think this is one of the big drawing points of Wvu.Parrothead don't think its easier to get into Wvu than Pitt when it comes to admission.We've already had this discussion about admissions and Wvu and Pitt are the same when it comes to athletes.
The real telling stat is that the 86% acceptance rate is mostly from high schools in WV. WV high schools make Mississippi's
look good.
Raleigh I really don't think you want to talk high school test scores on a football board.There are many high schools in the Pittsburgh Area that produce very good athletes and very poor test scores.Yes WVA has some high schools that aren't in the top echelon of academics but so does Pa.On the flip side both states have some very good high schools too.
Pizzaboy, I really don't think you want to try to determine what I want to talk about.
I have way too much experience with that shit hole of a state than you will ever know.
I have lived in four very different parts of that state. One on them for my entire Senior year of high school. I know what the f I'm talking about. My English teacher my Senior year in high school made you look like a Rhodes Scholar.
She would say things like, "Get them things over there"; "I should have eat that instead"; "He should have went there"; and on, and on, and on.
And, since you didn't grasp my comment earlier, I'll spell it out for you.
My comment wasn't about athletes. Your state doesn't produce enough athletes to matter anyway. My comment was about the 86% acceptance rate of students in the general population.
It's my experience that of those 86% who are accepted, 50% of those can't put a coherent sentence together.
For your information Raleigh I was born and still live in Pa.Wva isn't my state but I'm a Wvu fan and I never went to school there.I just can't stand when people say a player went to Wvu because he couldn't get in Pitt.They both have the same admission standard.I was a PA public school teacher for 32 years and my grammar isn't the best and I know it.I don't think it really hindered my ability to get my students interested and involved in my class.Believe me I'm far from a Rhodes Scholar and the good part I know what my intelligent level is.What you see is what you get with me I don't try to be something I'm not like many posters on message boards.
Pizzaboy, now I am disappointed in you.
I thought you had a reason to be a WVU fan because that was home. Shame on you. You should be purged from the Commonwealth.
Seriously, I understand your dislike about a false difference for athlete admissions.
That still doesn't make my ears stop bleeding when I think back on some of the things I heard in that state.
It's a complete joke these kids are going down there for a community college education...
I guess life after football really doesn't matter as much as they say it does?
Funny WVU grads make the same as Pitt grads upon graduation. Pitt is not Harvard, the reason WVU has a high accept rate for the main campus is they are a land grant institution that is to serve the state. WVU has one small branch campus and they can't funnel all their marginal students to branch campuses like PSU and Pitt can do. WVU is growing the sunny side part of town was torn down and brand new dorms were constructed. They just finished major upgrades to the football and basketball venues and a brand new basketball practice facility, they have a brand new baseball stadium that is home to the single A pirate affiliate, They are building a brand new swimming and track facility. Morgantown is not the same town it was 10 years ago.
Average Ranking: 277
The Big doesn't boast any Top 50 programs like each of the other five power conferences and Texas (82) is the only program in the Top 100. Baylor is the next closest at 197 but all eight of the other members are below 200, with two being below 400 in Texas Tech (403) and West Virginia (421).
The Big doesn't boast any Top 50 programs like each of the other five power conferences and Texas (82) is the only program in the Top 100. Baylor is the next closest at 197 but all eight of the other members are below 200, with two being below 400 in Texas Tech (403) and West Virginia (421).
WVU offers a community college education.. while Pitt is not Hardvard Pitt is currently the top Public school in the Northeast for consecutive years now. Pretty pathetic that some kids choose to ignore that but hey, its their life so whatever.
These kids and their parents claim that life after football matters, but some (very few) go for the community college education? Ridiculous.
These kids and their parents claim that life after football matters, but some (very few) go for the community college education? Ridiculous.
Here is the bottom line, if your thinking being better academically than more of our competitors and that is going to result in better on the field play, your kidding yourself.
Pitt for whatever reason doesn't want to compete BOTH in the classroom and on the field. Its definitely possible, they just choose not to do it. From the top, without vision, commitment and caring, you will get our results over the last 30+ years.
Pitt for whatever reason doesn't want to compete BOTH in the classroom and on the field. Its definitely possible, they just choose not to do it. From the top, without vision, commitment and caring, you will get our results over the last 30+ years.
What is wrong with people's reading comprehension on this board?
He said nothing about academics helping on the football field. Nothing.
He very clearly stated that if players and their parents have any interest in success after college football there isn't any comparison between the two schools.
You are defending an argument that wasn't made.
It's not just you, but this makes something like the fifth time in a couple of days where people don't read a damn thing and just assume someone is saying something they're not.
Except even many of the athletes at Pitt aren't real students either. They are average to below average HS students. They are tutored. They are in majors which provide very little real world value. They are there to play football or basketball. For the vast majority, alumni involvement in job placement is far, far more important than their other job prospects with a C average from Pitt or WVU. Enterprise or Geico or Kroger doesn't really care whether Pitt or WVU is a better school. Hell, for most they screen you based on GPA immediately and a 3.8 from University of Phoenix or WVUCC gets past the check and the 2.5 from Pitt gets thrown in the trash.
I'd be willing to bet WVU alumni are helping their football players out a lot more than Pitt, once they graduate.
People get caught up about Robert Foster going to Alabama, but if the NFL doesn't work out, I guarantee he can get a job in Alabama making a nice living in sales, showing off his National Championship rings. I doubt Pitt supports their athletes the same way.
I don't disagree. For those not interested in academics, your post is spot on.
The post I commented on was about those who were interested in academics.
Not the same argument.
Let's be clear, that this is 1 or 2 kids we are talking about here so, lets not pretend this is the norm.
Anyway, my point still remains some parents will say how life after football matters then they choose a community college.
It does matter... don't act like it doesn't matter to any just because it didn't matter to one or two kids!
Odds are these kids won't go pro, and they are stuck forever with their conmunity college degree.. good luck with that.
No, the post was about those who were interested in "life after football" or how you put it "success after college". That is very, very different.
For most it doesn't matter because in the job market it doesn't really matter very much. 90% of these kids are below average college students and so they are essentially applying for the mass announcement jobs, unless the school and alumni base is helping them get employment because they were football players. For the football players, alumni being willing to place them is far more important than the school on the diploma would otherwise be. Plus, a 3.2 from WVUCC will get them a lot more doors than the 2.5 from Pitt. They will get auto rejected with the 2.5 whether it is from Harvard or Pitt.
It depends. There is a big difference between a guy who didn’t do much and a superstar. To play devil’s advocate - how do u think the player who cost them the game will be treated? Ohhh.....you are the guy who lost us the Iron Bowl. Door slams.
If education mattered to these Kids, Pitt would get a lot more recruits and the SEC would suck.
Lets see what happens with Kenny White. Borderline 4 star recruit. (3 Star RR 5.7). Not a great student, somewhat of a problem child. He is in Pitt's back yard.
Only power 5 offer Iowa St. Not saying Pitt should take him, but he is very athletic and Pitt needs DB's.
Lets see what happens with Kenny White. Borderline 4 star recruit. (3 Star RR 5.7). Not a great student, somewhat of a problem child. He is in Pitt's back yard.
Only power 5 offer Iowa St. Not saying Pitt should take him, but he is very athletic and Pitt needs DB's.
Not really. I know dumb walk-ons and scholarship guys who never played, who got solid jobs after Alabama because they can wear their ring, while they sell.
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