Dixon's contract is MUCH more phat than Smiley's was. If he leaves on his own that's one thing. But firing him in the near future would probably dwarf want Smiley got.
Dixon to Florida??
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Dixon's contract is MUCH more phat than Smiley's was. If he leaves on his own that's one thing. But firing him in the near future would probably dwarf want Smiley got.
True. But a new AD & a struggling coach are a bad combination. Most ADs like to have their own guys. Pitt just hired a football coach that was handpicked by a new prez. Despite the contract, I don't feel like Jamie Dixon is very secure at Pitt unless he turns this thing around quick
Really? What Elite recruits will we lose? We are looking at another NIT/CBI in 2015/2016 and beyond. Kids want no part of this program right now. The DIXON brand is suffering, the ACC is a recruiting power right now and we are being left behind in the dust. Look at the amount of Top 100 recruits signed in 15' in the ACC!!!!!
Pitt would be totally screwed. Its not so far removed right now though that he may listen to a phone call .
New league, new chancellor, new AD.
Oh man, I can't wait to go grab a mid-major coach, put him in a challenging situation, and not miss a beat. Onwards and upwards with the new Andy Enfield (but with no recruiting base to speak of)!
Fingers crossed Dixon leaves! The last coach from Dayton is tearing it up down at Georgia Tech. Jeff Capel was a phenomenal success in his last stops, too.
Fingers crossed Dixon leaves! The last coach from Dayton is tearing it up down at Georgia Tech. Jeff Capel was a phenomenal success in his last stops, too.
Couldn't care less how our classes look, just win on the court. Those 2009 through 2012 classes looked phenomenal on paper and were horrendous on the court. The 2010 and 2011 classes, in particular, set this program back years.
I'm also intelligent enough to know that using a small sample such as March is a really terrible way to make evaluations.
I'm more concerned about W/L record overall (and even then, it can only be painted as poor when using a 4-year period), as Ed Feng has written that , statistically, the best way to have March success is to have a really good regular season team as frequently as possible. But, that's sort of a common sense thing I suppose.
I'm also intelligent enough to know that using a small sample such as March is a really terrible way to make evaluations.
I'm more concerned about W/L record overall (and even then, it can only be painted as poor when using a 4-year period), as Ed Feng has written that , statistically, the best way to have March success is to have a really good regular season team as frequently as possible. But, that's sort of a common sense thing I suppose.
Hard to say. If Nordy & Pederson were still in charge, I'd say you are absolutely right. Its hard to say exactly how much rope he has going forward with the new leadership in charge.
Not hard to say at all.
You recognize you are making this statement in a thread rumoring Florida would be interested in him, right .
Actually, I don't think it's that hard to say. Dixon's past success plus his buyout mean his seat is not the least bit warm at the moment. Two more seasons worse than this past one, however, and things will get interesting.
I think the benchmark will be whether we make the NCAA Tournament or not ...... two more years without an NCAA Tournament bid and Jamie may be on a short leash ...... recruiting is essential at this point.
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God knows we should definitely count "alcohol rules" toward a great way of life! (Sarcasm for you alcoholics) Dixon isn't going anywhere count on it!
I speak only for myself....don't presume to speak for the Almighty....but I love the story of how his son turned water into wine.....thankfully, that wedding was not held in PA>
Really? The producers of American Pie's American Reunion chose the Ritz Carlton in Half Moon Bay, CA to depict the location for the wedding weekend that was set on the Michigan coast. If the Michigan coast line is so beautiful, why sub in Half Moon Bay and pretend it's Michigan?
I am just messing with you. That area in Michigan is certainly on my bucket list. I would have to say that Northern California is used in that movie for a reason, and that's because it's gorgeous, as is most of the California coast. As a matter of fact, to me the southern coast between Orange County and San Diego is the best thing going--by far.
Cannot see the new chancellor and AD stepping and removing the most successful coach in school history because some (not all) alumni and fans are not happy with this recent track record. If they are trying to build the entire program and perception correctly - blowing up the other revenue/public relation sport by firing the coach at this point makes little sense.
Anthony Grant, John Pelphrey & Richard Pitino are listed as legit candidates. Chris Mack, Jay Wright. No mention of Jamie.
http://athlonsports.com/college-bas...hing-candidates-replace-billy-donovan-florida
Listed by Athlon but not the Orlando Sentinel.
Listed by Athlon but not the Orlando Sentinel.
And I'm guessing the difference between replacing him with quality if he left on his own vs if he was fired (at least right now) might not be as easy. Any coach with his body of work that gets fired without a real chance to get back on track probay wouldn't be looked upon too favorably in the coaching community. Sure someone would take the job but the type of candidates we'd all hope for might think long and hard about it. I'd bet some would pass if he was fired.
It would be nothing short of catastrophic if JD left for FL, especially at this delicate time for the program. He has had some recruiting struggles for sure the past couple of years, and I have been as critical as most of that, but he can coach, and he can get it back on track. That said, if he's gonna prove me right, he'd better get crackalackin'.
I do believe, as I predicted (and received the usual backlash for my trouble) before we ever began ACC play, that the move to the ACC has hurt the hoops program, at least short term. We had a nice niche in the BE, but of course Pitt had to get out of that league for myriad reasons. I do wish we could have landed in the B10, I have always felt strongly that that is a better fit.
The b10 is a better and deeper league .
At least Pitt can still recruit the east coast and play in the same time zone.
At least Pitt can still recruit the east coast and play in the same time zone.
Better & deeper in football? I wouldn't say that about basketball. I think the ACC is clearly tops in basketball.
Losing Jamie short term would hurt. But if he could possibly land the Florida gig, I think it could revitalize his career. As things stand right now, I would say the chances of Dixon remaining as HC at Pitt two years from now are less than 50/50. Two more years like any of the last 4 and there is no way he keeps his job.
Losing Jamie short term would hurt. But if he could possibly land the Florida gig, I think it could revitalize his career. As things stand right now, I would say the chances of Dixon remaining as HC at Pitt two years from now are less than 50/50. Two more years like any of the last 4 and there is no way he keeps his job.
The atmosphere at the Pete was great until Pitt started playing soporific style hoops and until the out of conference schedule went into the dumper. If Pitt played the style/ caliber of offensive we saw in the NC game, the atmosphere would be consistently great. On the other hand , I have seen Pitt play games at thePete the last 4 years in which they looked like they were playing with medicine ball-really ugly , boring BB. It's supposed to be entertaining-you know, put the ball in the basket occasionally.
Many names being discussed as Donovan's replacement now that he officially gone. Not one mention of Dixon. All are young, up and comers, with NCAA tournament experience. Dixon is not up and coming. He's going nowhere.
Prior to leaving Pittsburgh, I hadn't missed a game in 8 years. Even during whatever glory years people choose to anchor on when reminiscing about how wonderful things were back in the day, the Pete was always a borderline morgue for schools like even Seton Hall, Rutgers, and St. John's. That's not even the OOC. Pittsburgh just doesn't particularly like basketball, or Pitt for that matter. As recently as last year, Mark Titus marveled about the Pete's atmosphere when Cuse came in ranked #1 and he attended a game for the first time.
The issue has never been getting Pittsburghers to come out and attend an event -- regardless of the quality of Pitt's team or the perceived entertainment value that isn't particularly backed up by statistics. The issue is getting them to come out when you play even a lower-tier Conference opponent.
I'm not even particularly criticizing the season ticket holders who don't show up -- sometimes stuff happens. The main issue is that there's 0 secondary market for tickets. Aside from the diehards, Pittsburgh's never liked basketball enough to get a sizable crowd of people into the Pete for anything other than a sexy opponent.
The issue has never been getting Pittsburghers to come out and attend an event -- regardless of the quality of Pitt's team or the perceived entertainment value that isn't particularly backed up by statistics. The issue is getting them to come out when you play even a lower-tier Conference opponent.
I'm not even particularly criticizing the season ticket holders who don't show up -- sometimes stuff happens. The main issue is that there's 0 secondary market for tickets. Aside from the diehards, Pittsburgh's never liked basketball enough to get a sizable crowd of people into the Pete for anything other than a sexy opponent.
You'd hope he would have reached Mark Few status by now where he's pretty firmly entrenched, but you never know. Only place I saw him mentioned was Sporting News. Looks like it's mostly mid-major names being thrown out, which makes sense.
It is just a list obviously. No way anyone is paying the buyout plus 3 large for Dixon right now.
When were the glory days of out-of-conference scheduling at the Pete. I think I've been to probably 95% or so of the total games played in that building, and I'm asking this honestly, have we ever played a ranked OOC opponent at the Pete. Maybe Wisconsin one year?
In the history of that building, the only p-5 schools that I even remember hosting are Ohio St, Wisconsin, Georgia, Washington, FSU, Wisconsin, OK St. How many am I missing??
Point being, is really not hosting 1, at max, major OOC game the reason for the atmosphere decline?? That can't be it. The OOC schedule has really never been that good, especially at home.
BTW..good to see you again Del hope all is well
You're right, Whirly, that the OOC schedule was never "over taxing" but the fans used to be able to expect a least one good OOC game per year at the Pete-Wisconsin and Washington(they may not have been ranked) come immediately to mind.
By the way, I'm fine-thanks for asking. Busy, busy financing two college tuitions. My daughter just finished her freshman year at Pitt.
By the way, I'm fine-thanks for asking. Busy, busy financing two college tuitions. My daughter just finished her freshman year at Pitt.
And I'm quick to agree with you, the OOC at home is a joke for enjoyment purposes. I actually think Dixon usually puts together a good schedule for tournament purposes (we usually play good teams from bad leagues which kind of rigs the RPI in a good way for us), but overall I wish he would throw fans a bone and have at least one good OOC team per year. Next year, I really hope the Big 10 game is at the Pete and not at the Consol, hopefully a marquis team too, maybe Ohio St, Michigan??
