Do you agree with Pitts Net ranking?
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I agree with Pitt's ranking according to the NET criteria. It's the criteria that I have a problem with.
Agree that putting efficiency over outcomes is ludicrous. Also it’s supposed to emphasize quality road wins and Pitt has one of the best road splits in the country at 3-2, 1-1, 2-0, 1-0.
Alan is clueless. I remember during the debated non safety call during Pitt Miami two years ago he literally said “if any part of the ball gets out of the endzone it’s not a safety.”
A guy who does this for a living and thought that loses absolutely any credibility
I am the lone yes vote so far, but agree with the it is accurate but don’t like the criteria. The reality is they have good wins, but factor in some luck and a few bounces the other way could have us at 18-11 or 17-12 right now. They also have a lot of wins vs. quad 4 and not a whole lot of blow outs. So I agree with how they line up in Net, but like the committee, it requires a deeper dive. I think KPI was up to 38, which seems more accurate. I feel they certainly pass the “eye test,” which in the end matters as well.
My problem is I can’t figure out how this metric works. If defies logic that oral Roberts could be 44, Liberty 40, UNT 50, Utah state 31, and UNM 48. Those teams are worse in every metric than Pitt but yet are ahead of them? Unless we are giving oral Roberts a ton of credit for being 22-0 in q3 and 4
The NET is a joke but give me the 9 seed in Columbus. I look forward to knocking out #8 seed Kentucky and #1 seed Purdue.
Liberty was the question I asked Alan, he said they have good defensive rebounding stats
I agree with this. Based on scoring margins vs our schedule, its probably correct. But why are we ranking teams based on scoring margins?
My problem is I can’t figure out how this metric works. If defies logic that oral Roberts could be 44, Liberty 40, UNT 50, Utah state 31, and UNM 48. Those teams are worse in every metric than Pitt but yet are ahead of them? Unless we are giving oral Roberts a ton of credit for being 22-0 in q3 and 4
They are and based on this graph you can see the nose dive that the quad 4 fsu cost them. https://bracketologists.com/team/pittsburgh-panthers Had Pitt won that game they are like low 40s or high 30s right now.
They are and based on this graph you can see the nose dive that the quad 4 fsu cost them. https://bracketologists.com/team/pittsburgh-panthers Had Pitt won that game they are like low 40s or high 30s right now.
Like asking if I agree with 2 + 2 = 4...No agreeing of disagreeing involved. It is what it is based on the math....Better question would be in regards to the system itself..
Ask him how much money he lost when St. Peter's knocked out 2 Seed Kentucky last year in the NCAA Tournament because he used NET rankings for his bracket forecast. Then ask him how much he lost in the double down when St. Peter's beat #3 seed Purdue because he failed to look at how St. Peter's actually finished the regular season.
While you are at it, ask him how far he had 8 seed North Carolina going last year when they reached the National Championship game.
Ask him what happened to his NET rankings when 10 seed Miami took down 2 seed Auburn and went to the Elite 8.
Ask him what happened to his conference power ranking when the ACC put 3 teams in the Elite 8 and 2 in the Final 4 and the Big Ten couldn't get a single team past the Sweet 16 last year.
I strongly look at how teams finish the year when doing my brackets. I care about how teams finish in February and March, not what happens the week after Halloween and no one is going to sell me on the idea otherwise that all games are equal because the games in March are a helluva lot more important than the games in November,
I really like efficiency metrics, more so when it comes to individual players as opposed to ranking actual teams with it. But watching with my own eyes and actually winning the actual games is far more important than ANY team efficiency ranking.
Ask this person to fill out a bracket and post it online before the tournament starts. Put it in writing or don't say it at all.
And one more. Where did this person rank Pitt in the preseason. My guess is probably 14th or 15th.
Using November and early December to establish how good someone is, is very very dumb
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