I think the national media is going to do all they can for ISU to get in. Pitt doubtful. Pitt media and athletics department need to keep tweeting and getting in people’s ears about Pitt, Hinson, the road record and their record over the past 15 games.
ESPN Bubble Watch regarding Pitt
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They are probably in but shouldn't be. And I'm usually the one who says this or that MM is getting in no matter what. Their resume is so bad.
It's a little concerning that so few bracketologists see Pitt as currently in. Assuming the herd is right, we almost need to beat Wake in the quarters as opposed to a lower seed. Agree that if we make the final we are a lock, but losing in the semis feels more like a 50/50 proposition where I would have otherwise thought 80-90% in.
Most bracketologists arent going to have us in if we beat Wake and lose to UNC. But they arent factoring in road wins. I truly believe that if we win Wednesday, we are in. 90%-95% unless all heck breaks loose with bid stealers.
That's where I have been as well, but now I'm less sure. I believe the committee has explicitly said that road wins are a focus, so it's entirely possible that they're in if they beat Wake. However, if they lose to Wake I believe they'll be left out.
It seems to me Lunardi doesn't weigh all the factors, both positive and negative, to determine if a team is in or out. Instead, he focuses on one factor, either positive or negative, as his reason why a team is in or out.
I'm aware that most bracketologists don't have Pitt in, and I certainly hope Pitt gets in but will not be shocked if they don't.
None of that makes Lunardi good at his job (unless you feel like his job is making up arbitrary criteria and then selectively applying them to different teams to generate discussion/pageviews, not providing accurate information and drawing logical conclusions).
Why you (and so many others in our supposed fan base) spend so much time talking about teams you obviously have so much disdain for is something I'll never understand.
Why would I change my mind on the NET rankings? It measure what the NCAA wants it to measure. You or I or god might not like it, but it's the NCAA's game and the NCAA's tournament, so they are the only ones who count.
Incidentally, you like quoting Torvik all the time. Torvik says that Indiana State is in right now and Pitt is not, and that Indiana State is better than Pitt. Does that cause you to give up on Torvik?
But Pitt played two more conference games. They should get to add @cuse and @ncstate to NCSOS weight.
Or maybe they could force us to add Louisville, and then it gets even worse!
The ACC is not the only conference that plays 20 conference games. The Big Ten does. The Big East does. The PAC12 does. Several of the mid-majors do as well. I would assume the others are the same, but the ACC changed to 20 because of all the crappy non-conference games that teams were scheduling. The idea was that playing two more ACC teams instead of two more MEAC or ASun would help strengthen team's schedules. Instead what happened was that most teams still play those MEAC or ASun games and they dropped two of their more competitive non-cons instead.
Because lots of coaches like to roll up easy wins.
Put ISU & us in Dayton then ... easy solve. Neither them nor us will go any higher than the Sweet Sixteen or Round of 32 anyway. Reward both
Kolek not playing for Marquette gives Villanova a path to pick up a resume builder and then another shot at Creighton to lock in a bid. Not good news for us
Crap. They could get in at 19-15 if they beat Marquette. I believe there's only been 2 15-loss teams to ever get at-large bids and nobody since Vandy about 20-30 years ago. I'd like to see the stats on teams who get to play DePaul first. I remember UConn won their 5 in 5 by beating DePaul first. Nova gets DePaul today and it seems like its a great practice/scrimmage to get your feet wet into the tournament and give you momentum going forward.
The head of the committee actually just mentioned how they know Indiana State was missing a starter in 2 of their losses… so you are on to something there
I like Pitt over any of these other bubble teams.
Indiana State
Signature wins: 0
Bad Losses: Illinois State, Southern Illionois
St. Johns
Signature wins: Creighton
Bad Losses: Boston College, Michigan
Virginia:
Signature Wins: Texas A&M
Bal Losses: Virginia Tech, Notre Dame
Colorado
Signature Wins: None
Bad Losses: Florida State, Arizona State, Cal, UCLA
New Mexico
Signature Wins: San Diego St, Utah State
Bad Losses: Air Force
Villanova
Signature Wins: North Carolina, Creighton
Bad Losses: Penn, Drexel, St Joes, Xavier
Iowa
Signature Wins: None
Bad Losses: Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, Penn State
Providence
Signature Wins: Marquette, Creighton
Bad Losses: Xavier, Butler
Memphis
Signature Wins: None
Bad Losses: Tulane Rice
Indiana State
Signature wins: 0
Bad Losses: Illinois State, Southern Illionois
St. Johns
Signature wins: Creighton
Bad Losses: Boston College, Michigan
Virginia:
Signature Wins: Texas A&M
Bal Losses: Virginia Tech, Notre Dame
Colorado
Signature Wins: None
Bad Losses: Florida State, Arizona State, Cal, UCLA
New Mexico
Signature Wins: San Diego St, Utah State
Bad Losses: Air Force
Villanova
Signature Wins: North Carolina, Creighton
Bad Losses: Penn, Drexel, St Joes, Xavier
Iowa
Signature Wins: None
Bad Losses: Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, Penn State
Providence
Signature Wins: Marquette, Creighton
Bad Losses: Xavier, Butler
Memphis
Signature Wins: None
Bad Losses: Tulane Rice
He's not a Pitt fan. Just some pathetic loser with no life that is always on here being snide about Pitt. He's a fan of one of those rapey Pretend schools.
Assume Pitt beats Wake and Clemson beats UVA tomorrow. My guess is that UVA would still be in the field ahead of Pitt.
By the way I just saw a stat that Wake is 3-11 away from home while Pitt is 8-5. Yet Wake is ahead of Pitt.
My sense is Wake gets in by beating Pitt and UVA is the default 4th or 5th ACC team selected. The cards are definitely stacked against Pitt and it’s being continuously reinforced by all the ESPN coverage.
By the way I just saw a stat that Wake is 3-11 away from home while Pitt is 8-5. Yet Wake is ahead of Pitt.
My sense is Wake gets in by beating Pitt and UVA is the default 4th or 5th ACC team selected. The cards are definitely stacked against Pitt and it’s being continuously reinforced by all the ESPN coverage.
I think UVA would be out in the scenario you described. No one seems to be excited about putting them in, and they're near the cut line with us.
I think we're in over Wake and UVA there. if UVA wins tomorrow, it's going to be very close.
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That isn't the SOS metric that the committee uses. Check that one out and then get back to me.
Here you are: https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/sos-net
While our OOC SOS sucks, why a team like Northwestern or TCU gets no criticism while we're called out specifically is unclear to me.
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I find it hard to believe the Colorado State - San Jose State game isn't televised anywhere?
CSU going down would have to make them at least a little nervous on selection Sunday.
CSU going down would have to make them at least a little nervous on selection Sunday.
Memphis isnt a guarantee to make the new NIT. Why do people keep putting them on the bubble. They absolutely need to win the American tournament.
I can’t believe final four contenders Oklahoma and WVU aren’t gonna make it. Oh wait that was only in SMF mind
No need to worry about Nova if they can’t beat a lowly DePaul program. Not too inspiring thus far
If you are watching this game you can see why DePaul is so bad, even though they are still hanging around (Nova by two at the under four).
Guy for DePaul drives to the basket. The defense completely collapse on him. He kicks it out to a teammate who is wide open at the three point line. But he passes up the open three and kicks it around the perimeter to another teammate who is wide open at the three point line. And he passes up the open three to drive the ball into the lane, where four Villanova defenders are still standing, and throws up a pray that is not answered.
Villanova hits a three when down two with 8.8 seconds left in the game. DePaul does not call time out, races down the court and throws a wild, no look pass for a turnover, and Villanova hangs on for a one point win.
