It is embarrassing to have such a pathetic fan base that either does not show up to the game, leaves early from the game, or sits on their hands and bitches the whole game. These same people expect Pitt to bring in 4 and 5 star recruits, and wonder why we cannot land them.
Fans Quit Again
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Semi-guilty of this. Not in a position to attend games now, but when I lived in Pittsburgh didn't miss a home game for 15 years or more.
Tonight however I was ready to quit as a fan, at least for a couple weeks. Was so disgusted when it looked like "it" was happening again that I was actually angry, don't remember that happening before.
It's one thing to lose when your QB sucks, or you just can't score, but to literally be unable to stop anyone engenders a real feeling of helplessness.
Feel stupid now, but had they blown this one might not have watched next week.
What has Pitt done in the last decade to entice the fan base to show up? People want to see Pitt win but they can't get out of their own way. Fortunately they were able to do it tonight. People starting filing out in the fourth because Pitt looked dead.
Why would 4 or 5 star recruits want to play in that environment when they have just as good or better options? Having a few more players like Price and Whitehead make you look better as a coach.
Come on with the blame it on the fans stuff.
When Pitt starts to matter in today's college football. Fans will be there to support them.
Until then. Its up to Pitt to bring the fans to watch them play. Not the other way around. Especially, when you have a pro team that wins all the time
When Pitt starts to matter in today's college football. Fans will be there to support them.
Until then. Its up to Pitt to bring the fans to watch them play. Not the other way around. Especially, when you have a pro team that wins all the time
Can't blame fans for losses.
However, the fant need to step up. The commitment they are asking for is not that much. Tickets are cheap as hell and you don't have to donate much to get good seats.
I don't have the time to do every week, but I get myself to at leasr half of the games since Fraud left. I thought this crowd would be a little larger for this game.
However, the fant need to step up. The commitment they are asking for is not that much. Tickets are cheap as hell and you don't have to donate much to get good seats.
I don't have the time to do every week, but I get myself to at leasr half of the games since Fraud left. I thought this crowd would be a little larger for this game.
Hey, sometimes I leave when the game is a blow out. Sometimes I don't like going to night games because college football games literally take almost FOUR hours, which in itself is somewhat ridiculous. Yes, I'm not as dedicated as some. But to think I should be ashamed of myself?
As soon as Pitt starts winning ACC titles, watch the fans fill the stadium. Fair weather to some, smart finances to others,
Yes let me go to a football game at an off-campus stadium, pay $20+ to park your car if I don't feel like walking from downtown (or try to get on the T 3 times straight because it's over crowded), pay $30 for a coke and a burger that is not up to McDonald's standards, sit through 5 minute television time outs over and over, in the rain for four hours, fight drunk fans who won't sit down so my nearly 70 year old dad can see the game in peace, fight Pittsburgh traffic all to see a mediocre football team that can't compete for the ACC coastal division and has a hard time playing against teams that are supposed to be fluff pre-season fodder. Sounds like a blast.
Way to entice fans to come to your games.
Oh never mind. I forgot about the fireworks!!!
As soon as Pitt starts winning ACC titles, watch the fans fill the stadium. Fair weather to some, smart finances to others,
Yes let me go to a football game at an off-campus stadium, pay $20+ to park your car if I don't feel like walking from downtown (or try to get on the T 3 times straight because it's over crowded), pay $30 for a coke and a burger that is not up to McDonald's standards, sit through 5 minute television time outs over and over, in the rain for four hours, fight drunk fans who won't sit down so my nearly 70 year old dad can see the game in peace, fight Pittsburgh traffic all to see a mediocre football team that can't compete for the ACC coastal division and has a hard time playing against teams that are supposed to be fluff pre-season fodder. Sounds like a blast.
Way to entice fans to come to your games.
Oh never mind. I forgot about the fireworks!!!
Miami fans have been doing the same since the moved out of the Orange Bowl...how come it doesn't seem to affect them?
It was a decent crowd. A lot left early because they watched their team handle business in the first half, and the rest was to be anti climatic. Think about it - there was nothing reallyto see in the second half that was good. Either is was going to be a continuation of the first half (expected) or an unmitigated disaster.
So in a city where u have lots of sporting events in a year, you are more likely to call it a night quicker. If you have 6 events in your state for a year, you don't, and the "energy" remains which makes u more likely to stay.
Looks bad because it became a "game" again, and so the crowd support wasn't there. But to me, it should have been moot as we pounded an inferior opponent in to submission.
Lots of dynamics at play, not bad fans. Moral of the story - pound the opponent and make it moot.
So in a city where u have lots of sporting events in a year, you are more likely to call it a night quicker. If you have 6 events in your state for a year, you don't, and the "energy" remains which makes u more likely to stay.
Looks bad because it became a "game" again, and so the crowd support wasn't there. But to me, it should have been moot as we pounded an inferior opponent in to submission.
Lots of dynamics at play, not bad fans. Moral of the story - pound the opponent and make it moot.
Listen, it's a Saturday night against Marshall. Not exactly a reason to cancel dinner plans with the little lady.
Students wouldn't leave after the 3Q if the game was on campus. Maybe some, but not what you've seen for the Nova or Marshall game. For those that aren't aware, the buses don't leave until the game is officially over however no student wants to wait in line for an hour to catch a bus back to campus. Nobody plays off campus anymore and it's been a complete failure on all levels led by the moronic team of SP and Nordy at the time. Pitt needs to get back to campus so they can have a game day environment like the other schools whom we are competing with for 4 and 5 star players such as OSU, ND, UM, PSU, etc. No multiple 4 or 5 star players ( 8 to 10) per class no shot to compete for championships. Been saying this for years. I love Duzz, Barnes and Gallagher as they are doing all the right things however there is a reason why schools such as Minnesota, Colorado State, Rutgers, Temple (close) and USF (very close to announcing) either moved out of pro buildings or in talks off getting out. Oh by the way. The Steelers have zero affect on top local 4 or 5 star players. If they did, the top kids from Central Catholic and others wouldn't have left for ND or PSU unless maybe they grew up as Browns fans. H2P!
Stay home Yinzer, please. I bet you bitch the entire game about Pitt sucks, players suck, coaches suck. Too many of your kind polluting the stands as it is.
38K people for a game against a G5 team is perfectly fine for a smallish P5 school in an NFL town. The problem is the size of the stadium and the yellow seats making it look worse.
38K in a 45K seat stadium with 7K empty NAVY BLUE seats and its a non-issue.
38K in a 45K seat stadium with 7K empty NAVY BLUE seats and its a non-issue.
Not to be argumentative, but how much do you think it costs to watch a Power 5 college football game anywhere else? Your complaints seem to be common to most places and not just Pitt. I've fought traffic at Notre Dame, Virginia, Navy, and other places. Food prices are basically the same. TV commercials - the same. Rain? Short of playing in a domed stadium, how do we stop that?
It sounds like you should stay home and watch the game on television......
Miami has been pretty mediocre for awhile now...but still get talent
Had we beaten OSU and/or NC, the crowd would have been much better. Those two games were about as effective "negative" advertising as Pitt could have undertaken before the Marshsall game. It will take time to get the bad taste of both of those games out of peoples' mouths. In the meantime will this team do anything to counter the perception that they are completely hapless defensively? As for last night, let's face it, people don't find the drama in beating a patsy and almost blowing a 27 point lead entertaining-it really is sickening. I will be there Saturday not knowing what to expect from this schizophrenic team.
Had we won the previous two weeks and created a buzz there would have been at least 50k at that game. You can't expect on the field performance during a rebuild(after 35 years of crap) not to impact attendance against a team like Marshall. Add to that, assume you weren't a season ticket holder and went to that game last night-that game was sickening! Almost blowing a game when you're up 27 points over a pastsie isn't a way to attract new fans!
Pitt fans: They are the only busy people in the country, with wives to take to dinner, with children to attend to, with lawns to be mowed, with houses to be cleaned, with laundry to be done, with hunting to be done,
You guys are so busy and valuable to the american public, I don't know how the hell you have time to post on a message board
You guys are so busy and valuable to the american public, I don't know how the hell you have time to post on a message board
It sounds like going to a Pitt game is work for some of you. Winning streaks at home will draw crowds, Pittsburghers need to have expectations of winning for them to part with the cost of attendance, dealing with the nuisances of getting to the games and the stadium environment (off campus).
This complaining will stop when Pitt puts together a home win streak of 10 or 12 games, winning has an affect on people, don't look now but we have a 3 game home win streak and the toughest games remaining are road games (Clemson, Miami) so the streak has a chance to go on.
Winning programs start with winning at home then national programs can emerge with road wins. Take one step at a time PN is only in year 2, there are plenty of defensive players accumulating through red shirts or missing by injury to make a positive impact in the near future.
Watch the home win streak grow and the crowds will grow, Pitt's best fans are already there. Hail to Pitt !
This complaining will stop when Pitt puts together a home win streak of 10 or 12 games, winning has an affect on people, don't look now but we have a 3 game home win streak and the toughest games remaining are road games (Clemson, Miami) so the streak has a chance to go on.
Winning programs start with winning at home then national programs can emerge with road wins. Take one step at a time PN is only in year 2, there are plenty of defensive players accumulating through red shirts or missing by injury to make a positive impact in the near future.
Watch the home win streak grow and the crowds will grow, Pitt's best fans are already there. Hail to Pitt !
The Steelers will always get Pittsburghers dollars first. Pitt is a novelty that they'll tune into when they get into the top 20 and play meaningful games.
Face it, most people work 45+ hour weeks anymore and don't get much mon-fri time to spend with family or do anything. Sundays are sacred days for the NFL...so that leaves Saturday as your only free day. You can spend it with family and friends doing things you enjoy, or you can spend 8 (2hrs driving, 2hrs tailgating, 4hrs game) hours with Pitt football. I'm sorry but I don't want to give away 8hrs of my free time 7 weeks a year on what Pitt puts on the field. 3-4 times...count me in.
Face it, most people work 45+ hour weeks anymore and don't get much mon-fri time to spend with family or do anything. Sundays are sacred days for the NFL...so that leaves Saturday as your only free day. You can spend it with family and friends doing things you enjoy, or you can spend 8 (2hrs driving, 2hrs tailgating, 4hrs game) hours with Pitt football. I'm sorry but I don't want to give away 8hrs of my free time 7 weeks a year on what Pitt puts on the field. 3-4 times...count me in.
VT and GT at home will be very tough for us. No guarantees of any wins with the remaining home games, with toss-ups in those 2 games.
Another factor is the length of the games. Way too many "Official Reviews". They should limit the number of Official Reviews per game and also limit the time in Official Review to 30 seconds max. If they can't figure it out in 30 seconds, leave the call as it was called on the field. Too much idle time in football games. It's like 11 minutes of real action in a 60 minute game that takes close to 4 hours to play. That's freakin' ridiculous!!!!
Another factor is the length of the games. Way too many "Official Reviews". They should limit the number of Official Reviews per game and also limit the time in Official Review to 30 seconds max. If they can't figure it out in 30 seconds, leave the call as it was called on the field. Too much idle time in football games. It's like 11 minutes of real action in a 60 minute game that takes close to 4 hours to play. That's freakin' ridiculous!!!!
That's pretty much where I'm getting to now, partially out of necessity. My working days and wage earning days are coming to an end in the next year or so. When that happens, my money will be spent on better things and necessary things, not Pitt sports. I'll occasionally go to some games, but usually when the ticket is given to me. I know I'll have access to some tickets that way when I retire. Or give my season tickets over to my son who can take them over if he wants to. Either way, Pitt sports, at least for me, will be de-emphasized in the coming years. It's just not as important as it used to be for me. There are other priorities in my life now. Pitt sports is just entertainment.
Can we PLEASE put this inaccurate argument to bed already? When the stadium was on campus, students left early - all the time. And Pitt Stadium did not sell out. And that was when we WERE a national powerhouse.
different era pittgirl. Not really fair to compare what happened in the late 1970's early 80's to now.
If you claim to be a Pitt fan, but do not attend the games or financially support the program then what good are you? These same people make it worse by bashing the program as well. In essence, you are worse than PS and WV fans because at least people know them for who they are.
I understand it's a different era - it's the stupid argument that somehow if we had an on campus stadium students wouldn't leave early when you have the data that proves it didn't make a difference.
You are exactly correct Pitt-Girl. The problem isn't the stadium, but rather the people. It is a complete embarrassment that people cannot stay an extra 15 minutes to support their team.
the best one this past week was pitt79 saying f pitt, he would rather spend his Saturdays watching his kid and 20 other girls play chase the ball on the soccer pitch.
Especially on a Saturday night they're gonna leave early. No offense Pittgirl...but most college age girls could give two shits about the outcome of a sporting event. It's something to do for a couple of hours where they can paint up, look cute yell and maybe get on tv. It's much more important to get home so they can begin the process of getting made up to go out on a Saturday night down the south side. Hell, they might even leave earlier if the game was on campus cause they can walk back to their room!
I'm not sure what you were watching but the the crowd was fine. Marshall brought a lot of fans. Great atmosphere on the North Shore prior and during the game.
I get sick of PITT "fans" that do not attend the games justify their absence.
I get sick of PITT "fans" that do not attend the games justify their absence.
That's a very honest assessment. I get what you mean about being old. Conflicts involving dollars and allocation of priorities, such as health and other life issues, can be daunting and unpredictable. But youv've always been there in the past and still have your love for Pitt. That will never end! HTP!!
I probably shouldn't make this post, but I will.
Should 60 or 70 year old men who can barely move or stand even go to games? It seems like a big hastle and onconvienance for them and their gameday experience is always ruined by people standing etc. TV was made for those guy. The Pitt fanbase needs to get younger....and i'm not talking HS teenagers. The 40-50 year old fanbase needs to forget about the 90's when they were abused on a weekly basis and come back!
Should 60 or 70 year old men who can barely move or stand even go to games? It seems like a big hastle and onconvienance for them and their gameday experience is always ruined by people standing etc. TV was made for those guy. The Pitt fanbase needs to get younger....and i'm not talking HS teenagers. The 40-50 year old fanbase needs to forget about the 90's when they were abused on a weekly basis and come back!
Look...this product has been brutally hard to watch for a LONG time...I would't call it very entertaining at all. I'm afraid I'm going to have a heart attack.
Fans pay their money - they can do whatever they want , whenever they feel like.
Until someone puts some money in MY pocket I'm going to do what I want.
I pray that the games get better ...I think Narduzzi is on the right track.
If recruits are watching this game, I hope they come away with the feeling that they will have an opportunity to start earlier than later.
I live 2 hrs away...sometimes it's just now worth it.
I like to try and beat the traffic and might leave a little early...so shoot me !
Fans pay their money - they can do whatever they want , whenever they feel like.
Until someone puts some money in MY pocket I'm going to do what I want.
I pray that the games get better ...I think Narduzzi is on the right track.
If recruits are watching this game, I hope they come away with the feeling that they will have an opportunity to start earlier than later.
I live 2 hrs away...sometimes it's just now worth it.
I like to try and beat the traffic and might leave a little early...so shoot me !
Again, I concur with this kind of post since it does reflect on things that touch upon my life at 73. I've had 2 knee replacements in the last 2 years, rotator cuff surgery, wrist surgery with 4 screws and other maladies relating to old age. However, I really enjoy my time on the Lair with other die hard Panther Fans. In the past I've given a lot financially and attended both away and home games. But times have changed and I have made adjustments. We have one Grandchild that graduated from Pitt last year and two that will graduate this Spring. Therefor, Pitt will always be at the forefront for me now and into the future. HTP !!
Having gone to Pitt from 1984-1988, I know that less students went to games then than are going now.
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If anyone is looking for a great example of this, watch some of the video that was posted earlier this week of the Pitt - BYU game from 1984. That Pitt team was ranked number three in the country, and if you looked at the aerial view of the stadium they showed the Pitt student section was a deserted wasteland. Wasn't even 1/4 full, or even close to it. I remember sitting there during the game thinking to myself, damn, where is everyone?
Turns out they were probably right to all stay home.
We were pleasantly surprised by the crowd actually. it was fine considering the weather forecast during the week, the opponent, and the previous two weeks. Enjoyed MOST of the Marshall fans. Overall I thought it was a pleasant evening, save the third straight week of losing my hair in the second half.
I have to say though, the TV timeouts are awful anymore. They were so long last night and it felt like an NBA game at the end with the constant stoppages. Agree as well that reviews are becoming a problem. It's constant, and it takes way too long.
I have to say though, the TV timeouts are awful anymore. They were so long last night and it felt like an NBA game at the end with the constant stoppages. Agree as well that reviews are becoming a problem. It's constant, and it takes way too long.
