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Students wouldn't leave after the 3Q if the game was on campus. Maybe some, but not what you've seen for the Nova or Marshall game. For those that aren't aware, the buses don't leave until the game is officially over however no student wants to wait in line for an hour to catch a bus back to campus. Nobody plays off campus anymore and it's been a complete failure on all levels led by the moronic team of SP and Nordy at the time. Pitt needs to get back to campus so they can have a game day environment like the other schools whom we are competing with for 4 and 5 star players such as OSU, ND, UM, PSU, etc. No multiple 4 or 5 star players ( 8 to 10) per class no shot to compete for championships. Been saying this for years. I love Duzz, Barnes and Gallagher as they are doing all the right things however there is a reason why schools such as Minnesota, Colorado State, Rutgers, Temple (close) and USF (very close to announcing) either moved out of pro buildings or in talks off getting out. Oh by the way. The Steelers have zero affect on top local 4 or 5 star players. If they did, the top kids from Central Catholic and others wouldn't have left for ND or PSU unless maybe they grew up as Browns fans. H2P!
Students at Alabama leave early all the time. Their stadium is in the middle of campus.
 
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If anyone is looking for a great example of this, watch some of the video that was posted earlier this week of the Pitt - BYU game from 1984. That Pitt team was ranked number three in the country, and if you looked at the aerial view of the stadium they showed the Pitt student section was a deserted wasteland. Wasn't even 1/4 full, or even close to it. I remember sitting there during the game thinking to myself, damn, where is everyone?

Turns out they were probably right to all stay home.
Again, college football is a thousand times more popular than it was in 1984. Thanks to ESPN, Fox, and other sports channels.

I really cannot understand why people cannot grasp this concept
 
Again, college football is a thousand times more popular than it was in 1984. Thanks to ESPN, Fox, and other sports channels.

I really cannot understand why people cannot grasp this concept

OK - but how is that applicable to this thread? Attendance is not great for Pitt games, be it in 1984, 1994, 2004 or 2014.
 
OK - but how is that applicable to this thread? Attendance is not great for Pitt games, be it in 1984, 1994, 2004 or 2014.
Well a couple of folks are using 1984 as a barometer Pitt cannot fill seats. Regardless if they win or not. Which is garbage.

Bottomline. When Pitt starts to compete for ACC titles and wins more games. Then fans will show up in droves. Which has been proven over the years.

When Pitt wins fans will come. Until then. Stop blaming the fans. Its Pitt's job to get the casual fan interested. Not the other way around
 
Wife and I were in our seats for the fireworks with about 300 fans mostly Marshall people. Where did all you people go???
We watched them forklift the Marshall sideline stuff " out the house."
 
Well a couple of folks are using 1984 as a barometer Pitt cannot fill seats. Regardless if they win or not. Which is garbage.

Bottomline. When Pitt starts to compete for ACC titles and wins more games. Then fans will show up in droves. Which has been proven over the years.

When Pitt wins fans will come. Until then. Stop blaming the fans. Its Pitt's job to get the casual fan interested. Not the other way around
I think the point you're missing here is that in their best years Pitt struggled with attendance. Yes - it was a long time ago and yes, the college athletics landscape has evolved, but Pitt fans have never been very good. I agree that the University is responsible for a good product, but Pitt fans in general are very bandwagon. For the most part Pitt fans (and not us here obviously) are a very fickle group - they don't donate or attend games with any regularity. So, I guess my point is that this is very much a 2 way street.
 
different era pittgirl. Not really fair to compare what happened in the late 1970's early 80's to now.

If both sets of students leave early why even bring it up? Attendance is awful but it does not change the result on the field. The 2003 team was the biggest underachiever of them all but people showed up because of the expectation that they had national implications.
 
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Again, college football is a thousand times more
Well a couple of folks are using 1984 as a barometer Pitt cannot fill seats. Regardless if they win or not. Which is garbage.

Bottomline. When Pitt starts to compete for ACC titles and wins more games. Then fans will show up in droves. Which has been proven over the years.

When Pitt wins fans will come. Until then. Stop blaming the fans. Its Pitt's job to get the casual fan interested. Not the other way around

When have Pitt fans shown up in droves in back to back years?
 
When have Pitt fans shown up in droves in back to back years?
When a game means anything. They show up. Look at the Cincy game a few years back. Sadly, there haven't been many meaningful games over the last 35 years.

You can lay that on the lap of the Pitt higher ups over the years. By the way they managed the football program
 
When a game means anything. They show up. Look at the Cincy game a few years back. Sadly, there haven't been many meaningful games over the last 35 years.

You can lay that on the lap of the Pitt higher ups over the years. By the way they managed the football program
Back to back years - cherry picking games does not count. Heck - you could brag about Temple's attendance last year if u want to play that game.

Pitt fans suck. They look for reasons to not attend, the ones that make it look for reasons to complain, and then they look for reasons to leave early. Pitt fans are softer than wet tissue paper.
 
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When a game means anything. They show up. Look at the Cincy game a few years back. Sadly, there haven't been many meaningful games over the last 35 years.

You can lay that on the lap of the Pitt higher ups over the years. By the way they managed the football program
Shere - not sure why you're pushing back on something you know - Pitt fans stink. Sure they'll show up for the "big" games. So what? They don't donate and are never committed. Doesn't excuse the administration for anything, but I really think you're glossing over a very complex issue.
 
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Riverwalk. You could see and feel the fireworks down there. Lotta people down there.
Thanks ! Good idea
Riverwalk. You could see and feel the fireworks down there. Lotta people down there.
Good idea didn't think of that! When we started the leave the stadium they started the fireworks. Got to meet some nice Marshall people since like us they're out of towners and didn't think of that either!
 
VT and GT at home will be very tough for us. No guarantees of any wins with the remaining home games, with toss-ups in those 2 games.

Another factor is the length of the games. Way too many "Official Reviews". They should limit the number of Official Reviews per game and also limit the time in Official Review to 30 seconds max. If they can't figure it out in 30 seconds, leave the call as it was called on the field. Too much idle time in football games. It's like 11 minutes of real action in a 60 minute game that takes close to 4 hours to play. That's freakin' ridiculous!!!!


You must really love going to a baseball game! Pitt home football games are just like all college football games from a length of time/television and review of plays perspective. I must say though, I am impressed with the new and creative excuses being thrown around this season--a stellar effort. Hail to Pitt!
 
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I think the point you're missing here is that in their best years Pitt struggled with attendance. Yes - it was a long time ago and yes, the college athletics landscape has evolved, but Pitt fans have never been very good. I agree that the University is responsible for a good product, but Pitt fans in general are very bandwagon. For the most part Pitt fans (and not us here obviously) are a very fickle group - they don't donate or attend games with any regularity. So, I guess my point is that this is very much a 2 way street.
What don't you get about the fact that Pitt sucked for 30 straight years before Majors I and that the university has never shown a consistent commitment to top flight athletics? What's so hard to understand about the fact that you don't feed people crap for 30 years and then expect that as soon as you have a decent product that people will show up in droves. Your assumptions are ludicrous! You want to blame someone for attendance-blame Posvar and that Bum Nordenberg for their half-a$$ commitment to Fb that drove away people in droves.
 
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If you don't attend on a regular basis you have no legitimacy in bitching about atmosphere and the like
 
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What don't you get about the fact that Pitt sucked for 30 straight years before Majors I and that the university has never shown a consistent commitment to top flight athletics? What's so hard to understand about the fact that you don't feed people crap for 30 years and then expect that as soon as you have a decent product that people will show up in droves. Your assumptions are ludicrous! You want to blame someone for attendance-blame Posvar and that Bum Nordenberg for their half-a$$ commitment to Fb that drove away people in droves.

Facts to some of them don't matter over the agenda
 
What don't you get about the fact that Pitt sucked for 30 straight years before Majors I and that the university has never shown a consistent commitment to top flight athletics? What's so hard to understand about the fact that you don't feed people crap for 30 years and then expect that as soon as you have a decent product that people will show up in droves. Your assumptions are ludicrous! You want to blame someone for attendance-blame Posvar and that Bum Nordenberg for their half-a$$ commitment to Fb that drove away people in droves.[/QUOTE

Half they these football stuffed with feathers, won't ever blame NERDY for anything, like Nuttings wallet lemmings
 
What don't you get about the fact that Pitt sucked for 30 straight years before Majors I and that the university has never shown a consistent commitment to top flight athletics? What's so hard to understand about the fact that you don't feed people crap for 30 years and then expect that as soon as you have a decent product that people will show up in droves. Your assumptions are ludicrous! You want to blame someone for attendance-blame Posvar and that Bum Nordenberg for their half-a$$ commitment to Fb that drove away people in droves.
Pitt was a Top 10 Program from 1975-1983. The attendance in 1984 was putrid. Excuses - everybody has one.
 
Pitt was a Top 10 Program from 1975-1983. The attendance in 1984 was putrid. Excuses - everybody has one.
You need to stop beating this drum. Again times have changed.

The sport is a lot more popular. If Pitt ever competes for ACC titles. I will bet you any amount of money. Pitt will get anywhere from 55,000 to 60, 000 fans at a home game.
Wanta make that bet?
 
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Pitt was a Top 10 Program from 1975-1983. The attendance in 1984 was putrid. Excuses - everybody has one.
Pitt wasn't all that good in 1984 and people were down right pissed off that Bozik drove away the best HC in college FB in 1981 because of jealousy and stupidity-that's a fact! You want a reason for poor attendance-blame the jackasses who have run the university the last 3 decades..
 
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Pitt wasn't all that good in 1984 and people were down right pissed off that Bozik drove away the best HC in college FB in 1981 because of jealousy and stupidity-that's a fact! You want a reason for poor attendance-blame the jackasses who have run the university the last 3 decades..
What is the excuse for 1977? The year after winning the national title. Pitt fans should write a book on making excuses.
 
We have some of the worst presidents ever as far as running a big time football program. Last one was inept
 
You need to stop beating this drum. Again times have changed.

The sport is a lot more popular. If Pitt ever competes for ACC titles. I will bet you any amount of money. Pitt will get anywhere from 55,000 to 60, 000 fans at a home game.
Wanta make that bet?
It's more popular due to viewers on tv.
Which is where the vast majority are watching the product.
 
What is the excuse for 1977? The year after winning the national title. Pitt fans should write a book on making excuses.
You're as clueless as Pitt girl-what did Pitt give it's fans prior to 1973-6- 40 years of garbage. They drove away generations of fans who they weren't going to win back in 2 years. Pitt attendance was just starting to achieve some consistent improvement during Marino's years when Bozik chased away Sherrill. Most of you know zippo about Pitt's history- you're clueless. No, Pitt should write a book on dumb incompetent chancellors and the last chancellor should be excoriated for his incompetent oversight of athletics. Bob nutting and Nordenberg- tweedle dee and dum, the Teflon boys, who talk a good game and don't back it up.
 
You're as clueless as Pitt girl-what did Pitt give it's fans prior to 1973-6- 40 years of garbage. They drove away generations of fans who they weren't going to win back in 2 years. Pitt attendance was just starting to achieve some consistent improvement during Marino's years when Bozik chased away Sherrill. Most of you know zippo about Pitt's history- you're clueless. No, Pitt should write a book on dumb incompetent chancellors and the last chancellor should be excoriated for his incompetent oversight of athletics. Bob nutting and Nordenberg- tweedle dee and dum, the Teflon boys, who talk a good game and don't back it up.
Losers make excuses and blame others. Winners find solutions and take accountability for their actions. Pitt was a premier program from 1975-1983. They are no valid excuses as to why students and alums did not pack Pitt Stadium during that time.
 
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Not sure why some of you continue to be a pitt fan if it brings you so must distress and personal turmoil
If Every Pitt fan who was in turmoil over the state/ quality of the athletic program over the last 40 years they'd have NO fans because you can't follow this program without being flabbergasted by the stupidity that's marked it's management and oversight.
 
Losers make excuses and blame others. Winners find solutions and take accountability for their actions.
And people who don't know their butt from a hole in the ground don't provide substantive reasons that support their position. Go read some history, it will enlighten you... Perhaps. And you're correct the Pitt administrators have been just that, losers, who have taken no responsibility for their actions.
 
And people who don't know their butt from a hole in the ground don't provide substantive reasons that support their position. Go read some history, it will enlighten you... Perhaps. And you're correct the Pitt administrators have been just that, losers, who have taken no responsibility for their actions.
Who is to blame for the fans not packing Pitt Stadium from 1975-83? They had an on campus stadium, National Title Winner, Elite talent, numerous 10+ winning seasons, etc.
 
Who is to blame for the fans not packing Pitt Stadium from 1975-83? They had an on campus stadium, National Title Winner, Elite talent, numerous 10+ winning seasons, etc.
The Pitt admin. Because they gave their alums garbage for 40 years. You piss people off enough they don't come back. You should also take a marketing psychology course. You have no concept of how people think in the context of a "buying" decision.
 
The Pitt admin. Because they gave their alums garbage for 40 years. You piss people off enough they don't come back. You should also take a marketing psychology course. You have no concept of how people think in the context of a "buying" decision.
You should write a book on making excuses. You can title it - Not My Fault
 
I'm at the games, skippy. Are you? You just have limited understanding of what makes people tick.
Yes - I have been in the middle of this pathetic fan base for 35 years. I sat next to numerous recruits, and players families. The number of negative comments made about the lack of energy and people in the stadium is countless. This starts with Pitt Stadium, so don't use the on campus stadium will solve all the problems.
 
Yes - I have been in the middle of this pathetic fan base for 35 years. I sat next to numerous recruits, and players families. The number of negative comments made about the lack of energy and people in the stadium is countless. This starts with Pitt Stadium, so don't use the on campus stadium will solve all the problems.
Well I admit it's sad and at times discouraging, but Pitt has reaped what it has sowed!
 
It's a beaten down fan base. It's hard to be sold lies for decades just to say , all is great, and follow blindly
 
If Every Pitt fan who was in turmoil over the state/ quality of the athletic program over the last 40 years they'd have NO fans because you can't follow this program without being flabbergasted by the stupidity that's marked it's management and oversight.


There's a difference between the occasional "turmoil" or whatever you want to call it and the fact that there are a couple of you guys who absolutely revel in the misery. If any entertainment option made me as absolutely miserable as Pitt sports has made you for decades I'd find something else to do with my spare time. Nothing is worth the misery that you derive from Pitt sports on a regular basis.
 
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It was a decent crowd. A lot left early because they watched their team handle business in the first half, and the rest was to be anti climatic. Think about it - there was nothing reallyto see in the second half that was good. Either is was going to be a continuation of the first half (expected) or an unmitigated disaster.

So in a city where u have lots of sporting events in a year, you are more likely to call it a night quicker. If you have 6 events in your state for a year, you don't, and the "energy" remains which makes u more likely to stay.

Looks bad because it became a "game" again, and so the crowd support wasn't there. But to me, it should have been moot as we pounded an inferior opponent in to submission.

Lots of dynamics at play, not bad fans. Moral of the story - pound the opponent and make it moot.
Bull crap.
My 3 seats had butts in them and I bought one on way in.
Listen.... we are on the verge of our record setting cycle of at least 3 losses per year.
Pitt fans are effing great. If and when we overcome mediocrity we will be more numerous.
And that day will be here soon.
 
OK - but how is that applicable to this thread? Attendance is not great for Pitt games, be it in 1984, 1994, 2004 or 2014.
Which matches by the way our record string of seasons with at least 3 losses.
I don't have time now, bit tomorrow I will do the math and see how many losses we average over that spsn oer year.
Iowa is going to give us all a lesson in fanaticism.
 
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