Or the TV People understand that an SEC team brings in the “SEC! SEC! SEC!” fanbase, while Pitt fans openly brag on this board about boycotting the national championship for the 8th straight year.
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Or the TV People understand that an SEC team brings in the “SEC! SEC! SEC!” fanbase, while Pitt fans openly brag on this board about boycotting the national championship for the 8th straight year.
How could you leave such an attractive draw out when every box was checked and "tradition" said they should have been a lock?
Sure, because there was nothing you could do.
But we are talking about when there’s any excuse to not do it.
Right. SEC was a lock all the way. Silly to think otherwise. That's why it doesn't make sense to say it was Bama that knocked them out.
If Travis was not hurt, and this happened, then I'd lean toward it being a big FU to the ACC. But with him out, I don't think it is. It's still the wrong decision IMO, but we've had many more years of history showing that if the team is good enough, the ACC champ will be picked over others. Hell, TCU was picked over tOSU (I think) last year.
At the end of the day though, this all goes away next year. ACC champ, regardless of record, will be in as it is most likely going to be one of the top 5 conference champs.
Because other schools can also have the same value. From a network perspective, it can be six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Could have made any explanation they wanted. If Travis is not hurt, and they see more than one game of their backup, then they are in.
Not sure how the ACC factored into that equation when Washington is coming from a dead conference with lesser credentials.
They are going to the Big 10 though. You basically have two SEC teams and two Fat 10 teams in the CFP, just like TV wants.
Yes and from what we're always being told, FSU belongs right there with all of them but here they are.
Because if Georgia had won, there would be no need to take Texas. They could have left Texas out and went with all undefeated teams. (UGA, Mich, UW, FSU) No controversy at all.
With Bama winning, you have a 1-loss SEC Champ that lost by 10 on their home field to a 1-loss Big 12 Champ. How do you justify taking Bama over Texas? ...And like you say, the SEC was a lock all the way.
Definitely not, but you couldn’t make a case to keep them out either. The Travis injury gave them one on FSU.
They've been calling to leave the ACC for years. Their entire administration down to their the most casual fans believe they "deserve" better and think they are leaving. This, and anything else remotely applicable, will certainly will be used to further that narrative, but it won't make any additional difference. They are going to leave as soon as they can figure out how to do it.
I guess we'll never know what happens if Georgia won but I certainly wouldn't say that FSU was a lock given how it panned out.
Incompetent ACC leadership totally screwed the Noles out of a playoff spot. They should feel that they deserve better.
Exactly.
It’s at the margins where bias comes out. Of course Jimbo’s juggernaut FSU teams didn’t get left out.
But that’s irrelevant to the argument. The middle finger to the ACC is: if you give us ANY reason to not let you in, we are going to take it.
That just wouldn’t be the standard for the SEC or Big Ten conferences.
I think if FSUs 3rd string QB came out and crushed Louisville 57-0 like tOSU did a few years ago, they'd be in. Instead, he looked like a deer in headlights. THey also didn't get to see a lot of the 2nd string QB.
Let me also ask, if Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, or someone from the BIG was in FSUs spot, and barely squeaked by in the BIG conference championship game, would they be left out?
Why should the ACC help them????? They've been wanting to get out ever since expansion began. FSU made their bed, let them get screwed in it...
If the ACC Leadership didn't have their head up their ass, there would have been a 12 team playoff this year.
????? Travis wasn't coming back. They werent putting an Iowa O in the playoff. Tell your buddy Norvell to recruit better QBs. We had a 3rd string guy better than their backup
That was their 3rd stringer, a true freshman, in the Louisville game. Their backup was concussed against Florida and would have returned for the playoff.
Is their backup great? Probably not. But he's at least thrown for over 500 yards with 5 touchdowns and no picks this season. The offense would have been a lot more respectable with him than it was against Louisville.
If FSU was able to play their backup Saturday night, they probably win like 26-10 or something and get in. That's what makes this even dumber.
Predictable reaction as called a couple of months ago. In the document they bash letting in Stanford / Cal as further dilution.
FSU bashes ACC, Stanford , Cal
FSU bashes ACC, Stanford , Cal
I think SMU dilutes it. I think Stanford/Cal could strengthen it. Are Cal, Stan, and SMU any worse in terms of how much value they bring than Cincy, Houston, UCF, or Utah (especially since BYU was already in) bring the Big 12 and the Big 12 idiots couldn't be happier with those additions.
I dont agree with SMU but they arent taking revenue and the ACC decided to play the long game with them to see if they could grow into a Miami (or even a current TCU).
No problem. They can leave and pay the estimated $600M breakup fee. I'd rather have the cash then those whiners anyway.
I actually can't wait to see them in the SEC. Their fan base will be crying elephant tears when they finish 7-5 every year.
Ok. Take the biggest school in the country. A place where you can get to easily and an easy sell for all.
UCF.
UCF.
LOL! Boy, they’re sure making a lot of friends aren’t they? FSU is run by a bunch of morons…
The ACC should counter sue those bitches for making it more difficult for her conference to expand, which was necessary to secure its future.
