Florida NIL debacle
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I absolutely love this.
Here's what I dont get though. This is as black and white of a recruiting violation as there is and a "death penalty" type violation at that. They had the kid sign an actual contract for $13 million to attend a school. You cannot use NIL for recruiting. The NCAA, as weak as they are, came out and clarified that and said they were looking into schools like Miami who were doing that. What these NILs have to do is do the "wink and nod" deal so nothing can be traced but I am guessing the athletes want it in writing and aren't worried about their eligibility being compromised. But in this case, you have a black and white major recruiting violation for the world to see. I dont see how Florida doesn't get the worst type of probation since PSU. And if they dont, then that is them saying "forget it, there really are no rules." Even this Florida beat writer says "its totally against NCAA guidelines."
This just in:
Nebraska Southwest State College hit with NCAA recruiting violations. Apparently the NIL deal for free slurpie refills at the local 7-11, valued at $1.50 was tied to a booster who might have used it do push a few recruits to the program.
Nebraska Southwest State College hit with NCAA recruiting violations. Apparently the NIL deal for free slurpie refills at the local 7-11, valued at $1.50 was tied to a booster who might have used it do push a few recruits to the program.
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Hopefully this will be the down fall of the NIL in college...I doubt it though. Everyone knew this was going to happen. I agree NCAA is weak minded and will let it slide and come up with some type of excuse because they are Florida
Kind of where I've been with this. If this kind of money is floating around the Florida Booster community, why haven't they been using it to hire the best of the best to run the program?
he would have been the 2nd highest paid person in the building lol. let that sink in for a sec.. high school teenager would be making more than everyone in the athletic dept besides the HC.
This really only impacts the heavy revenue sports. No way NIL is anything concerning with track, wrestling, hockey, soccer etc. it is always football and basketball doing the heavy dirty stuff. When you deal in the tens and hundreds of millions in athletics, getting star athletes turns bigger profits. Bigger bowl money, bigger donations.
He's a QB, right? Let's be honest, a superstar QB is probably the second most valuable person in the athletic department besides the HC. The contributions of a true star QB are definitely bringing in more money for the department than the AD, assistant coaches, etc. Pickett's senior year success put more fans in the seats for Pitt than anything Heather Lyke has ever done.
Well, isn't that the crux behind the story. That the money wasn't there to pay the kid...that's why the kid wants out. He isn't getting what they said he was going to get because the 13 mil wasn't there.
i feel like the strategy here was to over promise him money, get him to sign the NIL deal and then tell him the money isnt there but he's already signed so he has to stay..
HOnestly, i dont blame the kid for pulling out. he was promised something and he didnt get it. probably should have stayed at Miami and taken the 9m dollars. You know what they say? 9 m in the hand is better than 13 m promised.
Yeah but can Miami actually pay that? There was a lot of talk in that thread awhile back about the Miami booster maybe having billions of dollars on paper but not actually having a lot of liquid money.
Well if there's still anyone out there who doesn't think the institution of college football has lost its collective mind, this should put that to rest.
I hate to say it but I can only hope that this kid is a big bust wherever he ends up, just to further emphasize the lunacy that has overtaken the sport.
I suppose. The phrase, "to good to be true" comes to mind. Just can't see a HC wanting a QB that makes more that the coordinators.
Plus, it isnt sustainable. Any kid already in the program would want even more than that. And the majority of these recruits flame out, and certainly arent ever seeing that money in the NFL ever, and these NIL companies are stuck giving kids all this money for bit scrubs at the end of the day.
I don’t think the 13 million number is even close to correct.
But Rashada is ranked by 247 as a Top 30 recruit.
If you look at the Top 30 recruits according to 247 over the last 4 years, and then look at the QBs. It’s a pretty elite list. The bust rate is very small.
The market value for them might actually be 13 million.
But Rashada is ranked by 247 as a Top 30 recruit.
If you look at the Top 30 recruits according to 247 over the last 4 years, and then look at the QBs. It’s a pretty elite list. The bust rate is very small.
The market value for them might actually be 13 million.
Not sure it quite works like that as I imagine that 20M might've been including many 4 year type setups for players and not 1M per player of the class had 20 guys... So more likely 5M for the 2022 season for that class. Obviously still a ton of money but not quite 20M.
Like the deal that fell through for this QB would've been over 4/5 year span... Still absolutely ridiculous 2M to 3M per year but not 13M at once.
I think the biggest incoming FR was so Tennessee recruit that's believed signed a 4 year 8M NIL package.
I just read not sure if it's true but he and his family had agreed to a lesser amount only after he signed his family representative tried to up the amount and the Florida NIL told his family go pound salt. It was supposedly a three year agreement with an option for a fourth year but it was closer to the nine or ten range.
I’m not entirely convinced that’s true. If the NIL bidding wars grow and are unregulated it could trickle down to all sports.
I could see a point that P5 schools get to the point where budgets for sports other than football and men’s basketball are cut to support the NIL budget. “Sorry we have to cut the budgets for all other sports by 40% to keep up with NIL dollars in football and men’s basketball.” Not saying this will happen, but the scenario is not that unbelievable.
Where this needs to go is to have football and men's basketball leave the NCAA and the schools' athletic departments entirely to form like the National Professional Collegiate Football League. Contracts, salary caps, trades, etc. To maintain some loose affiliation with the school, perhaps the players are still given free tuition, but not room and board as they can pay for that with their salaries. They wouldn't have to attend school.
This is the dynamic I'm waiting to see if it pans out. If athletic departments start to see declining funds, you'll see some movement to reign things in. Always mostly about money with the bigger schools.
So fans pay the salaries? Boosters? Who pays? I'll stick to NFL, since the Steelers won't be begging fans to chip in for salaries
So fans pay the salaries? Boosters? Who pays? I'll stick to NFL, since the Steelers won't be begging fans to chip in for salaries
The teams would pay the salaries. They would have more than enough to do so since they'd no longer have to redistribute their profits to the olympic sports
Where do they get the money though? Are you talking TV money? Sponsors? Big Donors? Fans?
The other sports would then either be eliminated or go D3 and play locally I guess. Like they could play CMU, Gannon and Geneva.
Pitt Olympic Sports can be in a league with PSU, WVU, Duq, RMU, CMU, W&J, Point Park, LaRoche, etc
Pitt tolerates participating in bourgeois football solely so it can afford to have these sports in the big league. I think they’d go to rotating brown outs and dollar store barnacle casserole nights in the cafeteria on campus before they’d drop down in soccer or girls volleyball.
Everyone would drop down, not just them. Regionalized non-scholarship/non-revenue olympic sports the way it should be.
I personally don’t disagree with that idea in the least. Because I have less than zero interest in those sports. However, I don’t see minimization of those sports being on the table for Pitt, and many schools like Pitt, in this day and age. I don’t see it being even slightly negotiable in fact. I think Pitt would slap giant Chico Bail Bonds ads on the football uniforms to pay to maintain a ‘major league’ of Olympic sports.
Though I don’t see why the regular conference structure has to end just because the big football programs secede into a non-NCAA corporate league. The government would pressure networks showing the football, to fund and show those sports.
I actually agree with you there, if schools where in local leagues where they could ride buses to games, that would probably save things like wrestling teams, tennis teams etc. that might be cut out. Even soccer, baseball or volleyball, I doubt they make enough money to cover travel to the other ACC locations.
One question I forgot to ask you on this part? What do the schools get out of it? If I was Pitt and this pro football team was using my name and logos, I'd want paid big time, or call it the Maulers or make something else up.
Using the Pitt Panthers name, logo, and colors would still be helpful marketing for the university, high levels of success would still have a major impact on the university.
But ya know - harbaugh contacted someone during a covid dead period and an assistant ran some practices
So that’s a priority
So that’s a priority
