The sentence is obviously true. It is also irrelevant to my point.Different world now. See, last sentence of Justice Kavanaugh concurring opinion.
The sentence is obviously true. It is also irrelevant to my point.Different world now. See, last sentence of Justice Kavanaugh concurring opinion.
We disagree.The sentence is obviously true. It is also irrelevant to my point.
No, Alston was an antitrust case.So you post your missives here when you have break in your "slip and fall" cases?
And I have said 1000 times, no pay for play probably doesn't hold up in court. But it has to get there first and that would take years. In the mean time, for the 2000th time, enforce your own rule or get rid of the effing thing. What don't you get? Why have the rule if they won't enforce it?That’s not against the law. Price fixing and any activities which restrain trade, eg price fixing, are. You get the distinction, yes? Where’d you get your JD if I may politely inquire?
You do realize his opinion has no more weight than yours, or mine, right?Different world now. See, last sentence of Justice Kavanaugh concurring opinion.
Here’s the thing. About 50% of posts I read on this site re: NIL, Transferring and pay for play (legal) are erroneous. Kavanaugh’s opinion is only 5 pages with little legalese. Very easy to read. What Kavanaugh makes clear is that the NCAA business model was built on price fixing where athletic oligarchs got rich at the expense of free labor. That conduct the Supreme Court unanimously found was illegal.
Reading on in Kavanaugh opinion, he is correctly pissed off at the NCAA for their illegal price fixing. In fact he implicitly dares the NCAA to litigate any barriers they seek to impose on compensation for athletes. There is such a case moving now through the very same courts as Alstonay. Kavanaugh,,and I suspect the rest of the Sc.T. must be salivating to hear this one. If I’m counsel for NCAA, my advice is “SETTLE NOW”!. It’s called House v. NCAA. The plaintiffs in that case are college atheletes from 2015-present who demand back p
So what’s next? My guess is class action for atheletes since advent of first major TV contracts (circa 1983?) through 2014 for back pay.
In any event, it’s not complicated. But do read Kavanaugh simple 5 page concurring.
He likes beer.Here’s the thing. About 50% of posts I read on this site re: NIL, Transferring and pay for play (legal) are erroneous. Kavanaugh’s opinion is only 5 pages with little legalese. Very easy to read. What Kavanaugh makes clear is that the NCAA business model was built on price fixing where athletic oligarchs got rich at the expense of free labor. That conduct the Supreme Court unanimously found was illegal.
Reading on in Kavanaugh opinion, he is correctly pissed off at the NCAA for their illegal price fixing. In fact he implicitly dares the NCAA to litigate any barriers they seek to impose on compensation for athletes. There is such a case moving now through the very same courts as Alston. It’s called House v. NCAA. The plaintiffs in that case are college atheletes from 2015-present who demand back pay. Kavanaugh,,and I suspect the rest of the Sc.T. must be salivating to hear this one. If I’m counsel for NCAA, my advice is “SETTLE NOW”!
So what’s next? My guess is class action for atheletes since advent of first major TV contracts (circa 1983?) through 2014 for back pay.
In any event, it’s not complicated. But do read Kavanaugh simple 5 page concurring.
Not true. We attorneys cite concurring opinions as persuasive all the time.You do realize his opinion has no more weight than yours, or mine, right?
Block me. No offense taken.Take a break Esquire. You're boring.
This could be a record. You've only posted a few threads on NIL and you've already pissed off a significant portion of the Lair. That takes real talent. Very impressive Counselor.Here’s the thing. About 50% of posts I read on this site re: NIL, Transferring and pay for play (legal) are erroneous. Kavanaugh’s opinion is only 5 pages with little legalese. Very easy to read. What Kavanaugh makes clear is that the NCAA business model was built on price fixing where athletic oligarchs got rich at the expense of free labor. That conduct the Supreme Court unanimously found was illegal.
Reading on in Kavanaugh opinion, he is correctly pissed off at the NCAA for their illegal price fixing. In fact he implicitly dares the NCAA to litigate any barriers they seek to impose on compensation for athletes. There is such a case moving now through the very same courts as Alston. It’s called House v. NCAA. The plaintiffs in that case are college atheletes from 2015-present who demand back pay. Kavanaugh,,and I suspect the rest of the Sc.T. must be salivating to hear this one. If I’m counsel for NCAA, my advice is “SETTLE NOW”!
So what’s next? My guess is class action for atheletes since advent of first major TV contracts (circa 1983?) through 2014 for back pay.
In any event, it’s not complicated. But do read Kavanaugh simple 5 page concurring.
To say that "The NCAA is not above the law" is inherently obvious and overly broad to allow you to reach your conclusion. Despite your self-stated legal expertise, you don't understand that something that generic is worthless when it comes to specifics.We disagree.
Do you go one day without posting about Alston?
Its also not against the law to allow for players to play college football for 6, 7, 10, 20 years. Its an arbitrary NCAA rule. Should Pitt field a team of 28 year olds and say "hey, its not illegal." I dont get what logic this dude us using. He's an attorney? WowTo say that "The NCAA is not above the law" is inherently obvious and overly broad to allow you to reach your conclusion. Despite your self-stated legal expertise, you don't understand that something that generic is worthless when it comes to specifics.
You seem to imply that ANY player-related rule is illegal. Is the 85 scholarship illegal since it limits the potential earnings of the 86th man?
Not every rule. Only those rules which might impinge on compensationTo say that "The NCAA is not above the law" is inherently obvious and overly broad to allow you to reach your conclusion. Despite your self-stated legal expertise, you don't understand that something that generic is worthless when it comes to specifics.
You seem to imply that ANY player-related rule is illegal. Is the 85 scholarship illegal since it limits the potential earnings of the 86th man?
And punishing a school for breaking a rule on tampering or pay for play doesn't take away the individual player's compensation.Not every rule. Only those rules which might impinge on compensation
Undoubtedly authored by his clerks, PJ, Tobin and Squee.Here’s the thing. About 50% of posts I read on this site re: NIL, Transferring and pay for play (legal) are erroneous. Kavanaugh’s opinion is only 5 pages with little legalese. Very easy to read. What Kavanaugh makes clear is that the NCAA business model was built on price fixing where athletic oligarchs got rich at the expense of free labor. That conduct the Supreme Court unanimously found was illegal.
Reading on in Kavanaugh opinion, he is correctly pissed off at the NCAA for their illegal price fixing. In fact he implicitly dares the NCAA to litigate any barriers they seek to impose on compensation for athletes. There is such a case moving now through the very same courts as Alston. It’s called House v. NCAA. The plaintiffs in that case are college atheletes from 2015-present who demand back pay. Kavanaugh,,and I suspect the rest of the Sc.T. must be salivating to hear this one. If I’m counsel for NCAA, my advice is “SETTLE NOW”!
So what’s next? My guess is class action for atheletes since advent of first major TV contracts (circa 1983?) through 2014 for back pay.
In any event, it’s not complicated. But do read Kavanaugh simple 5 page concurring.
And punishing a school for breaking a rule on tampering or pay for play doesn't take away the individual player's compensation.
You didn't answer my question about 85 scholarships.
To say that "The NCAA is not above the law" is inherently obvious and overly broad to allow you to reach your conclusion. Despite your self-stated legal expertise, you don't understand that something that generic is worthless when it comes to specifics.
You seem to imply that ANY player-related rule is illegal. Is the 85 scholarship illegal since it limits the potential earnings of the 86th man?
Link?Here’s the thing. About 50% of posts I read on this site re: NIL, Transferring and pay for play (legal) are erroneous. Kavanaugh’s opinion is only 5 pages with little legalese. Very easy to read. What Kavanaugh makes clear is that the NCAA business model was built on price fixing where athletic oligarchs got rich at the expense of free labor. That conduct the Supreme Court unanimously found was illegal.
Reading on in Kavanaugh opinion, he is correctly pissed off at the NCAA for their illegal price fixing. In fact he implicitly dares the NCAA to litigate any barriers they seek to impose on compensation for athletes. There is such a case moving now through the very same courts as Alston. It’s called House v. NCAA. The plaintiffs in that case are college atheletes from 2015-present who demand back pay. Kavanaugh,,and I suspect the rest of the Sc.T. must be salivating to hear this one. If I’m counsel for NCAA, my advice is “SETTLE NOW”!
So what’s next? My guess is class action for atheletes since advent of first major TV contracts (circa 1983?) through 2014 for back pay.
In any event, it’s not complicated. But do read Kavanaugh simple 5 page concurring.
Here you go. Scroll to page 41 in pdf.Link?
This is bull💩. If a college player can get paid millions, why should he be limited/restricted by eligibility rules then? That’s certainly something that may “impinge on compensation”.Not every rule. Only those rules which might impinge on compensation
Haha! They aren’t and haven’t been. If you can breathe, your in. Perhaps few exceptions like Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt, but that’s it. Been there.This is bull💩. If a college player can get paid millions, why should he be limited/restricted by eligibility rules then? That’s certainly something that may “impinge on compensation”.
😂😂😂 Swing and a miss. Not talking about academic eligibility. Why are programs limited as to the number of years the NCAA allows a player to play? If a player is making millions as a college player, he should be able to stay as long as the school decides to keep him, because to limit how long he can play would be “impinging on compensation” otherwise.Haha! They aren’t and haven’t been. If you can breathe, your in. Perhaps few exceptions like Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt, but that’s it. Been there.
Young grasshopper. The issue has yet to come before the court. Capice? One issue at a time.😂😂😂 Swing and a miss. Not talking about academic eligibility. Why are programs limited as to the number of years the NCAA allows a player to play? If a player is making millions as a college player, he should be able to stay as long as the school decides to keep him, because to limit how long he can play would be “impinging on compensation” otherwise.
🤦♂️ 😂😂😂Young grasshopper. The issue has yet to come before the court. Capice? One issue at a time.
And Donkey Dong Doug.Undoubtedly authored by his clerks, PJ, Tobin and Squee.
Neither does penalizing the university.Number of scholarship players in any class year doesn’t go to the issue of compensation. Alston is about compensation, hence, the focus.
Nor making the player ineligible. Whether the player keeps the money is then decided on the way the NIL contract reads. It has nothing to do with the NCAA. It is a contract between two private entities.Neither does penalizing the university.
Why does it have to? Why cant Pitt roster John Petrishen next year and have some booster pay him $25K. Its not against the law for Petrishen to get an 8th year, right? So we should just do it.Young grasshopper. The issue has yet to come before the court. Capice? One issue at a time.
Can always try and litigate later. No problem.Why does it have to? Why cant Pitt roster John Petrishen next year and have some booster pay him $25K. Its not against the law for Petrishen to get an 8th year, right? So we should just do it.
And that is exactly what Justice Kavanaugh said must be done in his concurring opinion! Either have national legislation or collective bargaining agreement or combo of both! Where Alston was decided in June 2021, NCAA, Conferences nor universities have raised a finger to fix it.NIL isn't a bad thing, but remember how much kids get already not paying for school. Also, there has to be some kind of rules in place. Otherwise we are going to end having about 16 teams playing, because no one else will have the money to pay for play. Hell the NFL has some rules that congress has nothing to do with at all.
They have asked Congress for help for years. The schools will not accept collective bargaining.And that is exactly what Justice Kavanaugh said must be done in his concurring opinion! Either have national legislation or collective bargaining agreement or combo of both! Where Alston was decided in June 2021, NCAA, Conferences nor universities have raised a finger to fix it.
Can’t imagine why not. Lol!
Well, the schools want to keep costs limited and continue to severely underpay they players.They have asked Congress for help for years. The schools will not accept collective bargaining.
Ok. So it’s the proverbial Wild West. Total free market.They have asked Congress for help for years. The schools will not accept collective bargaining.
They don't want employees and everything that entails.Well, the schools want to keep costs limited and continue to severely underpay they players.
Only if you think those are the only options ... and you seemingly do.Ok. So it’s the proverbial Wild West. Total free market.
Alright, so lets play this out.Can always try and litigate later. No problem.
Bring a suit in court to challenge it.Alright, so lets play this out.
Pitt lines up John Petrishen and other seniors who have run out of NCAA eligibility but haven't signed pro contracts. The opposing coach and referrees say they cannot play because they are out of eligibility. Narduzzi says "its not against the law for them to play and I refuse to play without these players who are allowed by law to play." What happens?