Frankin's buyout is $32 million

[Sean Miller Fan]

State College, PA - Penn State Football: Sandy Barbour's Guarantee to James Franklin -

It was a conversation that Sandy Barbour might like to have back right about now. It may have meant the difference between a buyout of $11 million and one for $32 million.

www.statecollege.com

Its all the rage in Pennsyltucky. Wonder if it costs Barbour her job. Everyone wants him gone.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Maybe that’s why they’re tanking.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Maybe that’s why they’re tanking.

I think this will be a 1 year thing though. He's recruited too well. They'll be 9-3/10-2 next year.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

I think this will be a 1 year thing though. He's recruited too well. They'll be 9-3/10-2 next year.

True. But that doesn’t take away from enjoying it this year.

 

[pittchagg]

State College, PA - Penn State Football: Sandy Barbour's Guarantee to James Franklin -

It was a conversation that Sandy Barbour might like to have back right about now. It may have meant the difference between a buyout of $11 million and one for $32 million.

www.statecollege.com

Its all the rage in Pennsyltucky. Wonder if it costs Barbour her job. Everyone wants him gone.

They should be careful for what they wish for.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

True. But that doesn’t take away from enjoying it this year.

Yea but I can't even enjoy that much because this college football season overall has been a disaster. And it seems like nobody even cares PSU is winless except for PSU fans

 

[PittFan540]

Yea but I can't even enjoy that much because this college football season overall has been a disaster. And it seems like nobody even cares PSU is winless except for PSU fans

I care! And I am enjoying every second of it!

 

[pierre93]

Yea but I can't even enjoy that much because this college football season overall has been a disaster. And it seems like nobody even cares PSU is winless except for PSU fans

The Pittsburgh media surely would bury Pitt if the roles were reversed. When psu wins they are a local team but when they lose it's not mentioned much. Nationally their record is mentioned and F them

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

I actually thought they'd be the ones to take advantage of the covid, shortened season etc. Getting skulldragged like they just had a coaching change with lost recruiting classes? bizarre

 

[gourdt]

They have an out of conference game next year with Auburn. Do they find a way to get out of that? Wisconsin is a cross division game next season too.
There schedule is harder than usual. I guess it depends on w

 

[bayardstreet]

Madden did his 5:00 radio commentary yesterday on the PSU team but mostly crushed the delusional fan base. It was spot on

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Pennsylucky is starting a go fund me account. Owen Seis just donated

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I think this will be a 1 year thing though. He's recruited too well. They'll be 9-3/10-2 next year.

I dunno. Their first game is AT Camp Randall. Their 3rd game is hosting Auburn. They also have to go AT Ohio State and Iowa.

If their QB situation doesn't improve, I can see a 7-5 type of season. It is no longer Happy Valley. Players aren't staying, and the one who did (Friermuth) got hurt and now sees his stock falling. I bet that good WR they have leaves for the NFL. Same with Oweh. They always pointed to this year, because OSU was at home, then it all blew up. I wouldn't be surprised if Clifford transfers and some kids decommit.

 

[DruidTM]

Yea but I can't even enjoy that much because this college football season overall has been a disaster. And it seems like nobody even cares PSU is winless except for PSU fans

No one cares when penn state wins other than penn state fans

so???

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

They should be careful for what they wish for.

yep, I hate Franklin but it would be crazy to move on from him. 2 out of 3 OOC cupcakes, 6 pretty easy Big 10 games, and a white-out game at home against either Michigan or OSU. Not incredibly difficult to churn out 9-10 win seasons. He will be back to that probably next season but I doubt they will get to playoff caliber with him. Is that good enough for their delusional fan base? Or are they crazy enough to try and roll the dice for someone who could get them to the playoffs? The only ones I see who could put them on the next level are Dan Mullen, Matt Rhule, or Hugh Freeze. If they think they can secure one of those three, then it would be interesting.

 

[pittchagg]

yep, I hate Franklin but it would be crazy to move on from him. 2 out of 3 OOC cupcakes, 6 pretty easy Big 10 games, and a white-out game at home against either Michigan or OSU. Not incredibly difficult to churn out 9-10 win seasons. He will be back to that probably next season but I doubt they will get to playoff caliber with him. Is that good enough for their delusional fan base? Or are they crazy enough to try and roll the dice for someone who could get them to the playoffs? The only ones I see who could put them on the next level are Dan Mullen, Matt Rhule, or Hugh Freeze. If they think they can secure one of those three, then it would be interesting.

I don’t think they’d get meaningfully different results from Mullen or Freeze, to be honest. I don’t really think they’d get better results under Rhule, either, but they’d tolerate that a hell of a lot more because he’s one of their own. But it’s not like any of those guys have a track record of getting to the playoffs that Franklin doesn’t have. None of them have been there as head coaches.

Their problem is that they’re in the same division with one of college football’s true bluebloods. Are one of the three guys you mentioned good enough to consistently put up better seasons than Ohio State? I don’t think so, and then you’re pretty much in the same spot you’re in now. So unless OSU slips back to the pack (maybe Day leaves for an NFL gig and his replacement hire isn’t as successful, who knows?), you’re pretty much looking at the current ceiling as the program’s ceiling.

I think there are certainly worse places to be than consistently winning ~10 or so games a year and going to NY6 games. If you’re at that spot, there’s always a chance the ball bounces your way one of those years - as much as I’ve been pleased with the ball not bouncing their way.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Penn State has the perfect formula. They can screw it up though. But their formula is as follows:
1) We ARE Penn State! They have the brand name and brand loyalty to pretty much rank them in every preseason top 15 (and mostly top 10) from here on out into perpetuity.
2) Play 3 weak OOC teams and once decent one, the worse you get is 3-1.
3) 1 out of every 5 years you catch lightening at a white out night and beat Ohio State.
4) You beat Michigan now 3 out of 4 years.
5) Most years you avoid Wisky as a crossover.

So that yields 10-2 regular seasons and because of the inflated preseason ranking, the name, you may not win the Big 10 and make the playoffs, (once in every 5 years you win the Big 10) but you get that Fiesta Bowl or equivalent bid pretty much most years.

It's a great formula. Because of this you recruit well, so it is sustainable. There is only two things that could really screw it up.
1) That you think as a program you are better than you really are and put unreasonable expectations and start firing coaches their first real bad season.
2) Michigan gets good again (and that's no guarantee as it has been awhile) and one of the underlings (Mich State, Maryland, Indiana, etc...) get good again and Iowa, Nebraska or Wisky has a top 10 team and they are on your schedule.

That leads to 8-4's. 8-4's eventually lead to some 6-6's. And so on.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Penn State has the perfect formula. They can screw it up though. But their formula is as follows:
1) We ARE Penn State! They have the brand name and brand loyalty to pretty much rank them in every preseason top 15 (and mostly top 10) from here on out into perpetuity.
2) Play 3 weak OOC teams and once decent one, the worse you get is 3-1.
3) 1 out of every 5 years you catch lightening at a white out night and beat Ohio State.
4) You beat Michigan now 3 out of 4 years.
5) Most years you avoid Wisky as a crossover.

So that yields 10-2 regular seasons and because of the inflated preseason ranking, the name, you may not win the Big 10 and make the playoffs, (once in every 5 years you win the Big 10) but you get that Fiesta Bowl or equivalent bid pretty much most years.

It's a great formula. Because of this you recruit well, so it is sustainable. There is only two things that could really screw it up.
1) That you think as a program you are better than you really are and put unreasonable expectations and start firing coaches their first real bad season.
2) Michigan gets good again (and that's no guarantee as it has been awhile) and one of the underlings (Mich State, Maryland, Indiana, etc...) get good again and Iowa, Nebraska or Wisky has a top 10 team and they are on your schedule.

That leads to 8-4's. 8-4's eventually lead to some 6-6's. And so on.

This is exactly right. The recruit well enough and their schedule is weak enough that that ensures 8 wins. Then they'll have 2 games they SHOULD win but could lose (MSU, Iowa, Min, etc). Their last 2 games are vs Michigan and OSU. Their whole setup allows for 9 and 10 win seasons simply due to recruiting. And as you say, every once in awhile, they'll beat OSU and go 11-1.

 

[Upg bobcat]

So that yields 10-2 regular seasons and because of the inflated preseason ranking, the name, you may not win the Big 10 and make the playoffs, (once in every 5 years you win the Big 10) but you get that Fiesta Bowl or equivalent bid pretty much most years.

Considering Franklin has only won the Big 10 once in 7 years and the program is on a downward trajectory at the moment, it's probably unrealistic to think they are going to be winning the conference once every 5 seasons. I know he is probably selling recruits on saying we'll have a big year/conference championship once every five (i.e., you'll experience at least one conference championship if you redshirt and stay on campus for 5 years), but it is looking less and less likely that he can make good on that promise.

 

[wolf0717]

yep, I hate Franklin but it would be crazy to move on from him. 2 out of 3 OOC cupcakes, 6 pretty easy Big 10 games, and a white-out game at home against either Michigan or OSU. Not incredibly difficult to churn out 9-10 win seasons. He will be back to that probably next season but I doubt they will get to playoff caliber with him. Is that good enough for their delusional fan base? Or are they crazy enough to try and roll the dice for someone who could get them to the playoffs? The only ones I see who could put them on the next level are Dan Mullen, Matt Rhule, or Hugh Freeze. If they think they can secure one of those three, then it would be interesting.

Always scoffed at their record because of their easy OOC schedule and the weak big 10. It will get harder for them because some of the weak Big 10 teams are rising. Teams like Indiana, Maryland and Minnesota are on the up swing. Even Rutgers is showing some life. See the Pedders falling into a lull.

 

[pittdan77]

This is exactly right. The recruit well enough and their schedule is weak enough that that ensures 8 wins. Then they'll have 2 games they SHOULD win but could lose (MSU, Iowa, Min, etc). Their last 2 games are vs Michigan and OSU. Their whole setup allows for 9 and 10 win seasons simply due to recruiting. And as you say, every once in awhile, they'll beat OSU and go 11-1.

Imagine how much trouble PSU would be in if they were stuck in the AAC, LOL.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Imagine how much trouble PSU would be in if they were stuck in the AAC, LOL.

I know. Probably finish 8th or 9th.

 

[Pittisit4me]

I think this will be a 1 year thing though. He's recruited too well. They'll be 9-3/10-2 next year.

I am not saying that they will completely fall apart like this year, but, their recruiting has been overated. They do not have good players on the O-line and D-line. That is by far the biggest weakness. They have been pushed around by the likes of Nebraska and Maryland. Iowa totally crushed them on the line on both sides of the ball. They don't have a good QB. Michigan is not good, but, I expect them to womp on the pedophiles this weekend.

Furthermore, their defense is downright awful. I don't see the talent there to have a good year next year either. Like I said, I am not predicting they go winless next season, but, the pieces are not in place to compete for a big 10 title. Unless they get some big transfer talent I think the best they do next season is around 500.

I also agree with "Recruits" that the Peds will likely have some defections from this recruiting class and this class shakes out to be perhaps his weakest since he has been there. The arrow is pointing down for the peds all while Big ten perennial cellar dwellers are improving.

I know you say that nobody cares the peds are falling apart. I have gleefully posted threads on here the last couple weeks about the peds and their failings. I love to see the Milk-dud choking up there. The fact that they are still winless truly makes me randy. The Dud is a big jackass who is not known for his character and I hope that program winds up on the scrap heap. The team and the town deserve this for the transgressions of former pedophile coaches!

 

[wbrpanther]

State College, PA - Penn State Football: Sandy Barbour's Guarantee to James Franklin -

It was a conversation that Sandy Barbour might like to have back right about now. It may have meant the difference between a buyout of $11 million and one for $32 million.

www.statecollege.com

Its all the rage in Pennsyltucky. Wonder if it costs Barbour her job. Everyone wants him gone.

He's not getting fired, at least not this year. I'd say if he doesn't turn it around BIGTIME next year his seat will he boiling hot in 2022. His buyout will be much less by then.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

He's not getting fired, at least not this year. I'd say if he doesn't turn it around BIGTIME next year his seat will he boiling hot in 2022. His buyout will be much less by then.

Yea but if he goes like 5-7 next year, he and Sandy are both gone

 

[wbrpanther]

Yea but if he goes like 5-7 next year, he and Sandy are both gone

I'd love 5-7. Better yet 3-9.

 

[bayardstreet]

She is on the hot seat also. Between basketball and Franklin it’s going to be all on her to make the right decisions and turn things around.

 

[Indiana Panther Fan]

Yea but if he goes like 5-7 next year, he and Sandy are both gone

How are the Fake Kids and Family doing? Going to set a thanksgiving display up to pretend they are real?

 

[President Stache]

No one cares when penn state wins other than penn state fans

so???

Isnt this is why sm cares?

 

[pittdan77]

I know. Probably finish 8th or 9th.

They're in 12th right now. Thank you for inadvertently admitting you're wrong about the AAC being better than the B1G.

 

[revampedpanthers]

They have an out of conference game next year with Auburn. Do they find a way to get out of that? Wisconsin is a cross division game next season too.
There schedule is harder than usual. I guess it depends on w

And none of the qbs there look like they will be very good. They will bounce back in other spots but i think they might not be anything more than a 8-4 type of team next year.

 

[PITT4UDAD]

And none of the qbs there look like they will be very good. They will bounce back in other spots but i think they might not be anything more than a 8-4 type of team next year.

Transfer portal should get active..