Franklin Comment

[oldpantherfan]

Does anybody besides me think that Franklins comment in the Trib ( http://triblive.com/sports/college/...rivalry-wont-renew-until-2025-at-the-earliest) is talking trash on Pitt.
Here is his quote " “Western Pa. (talent) historically, and I would even say the last couple years, has been really strong,” Franklin said. “For certain kids and certain families, Pitt's a really good option, as well"

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Does anybody besides me think that Franklins comment in the Trib ( http://triblive.com/sports/college/...rivalry-wont-renew-until-2025-at-the-earliest) is talking trash on Pitt.
Here is his quote " “Western Pa. (talent) historically, and I would even say the last couple years, has been really strong,” Franklin said. “For certain kids and certain families, Pitt's a really good option, as well"

That's a decent, honest quote. The bottom line is that neither Pitt nor UPS have ever gotten all of the best players out of Western PA, and they never will.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Definitely throwing subtle digs Pitt's way. I think this quote was telling: “For us to go where we want to go, we want to keep all the best players in the state and all the best players in this region home. When I say home, that's Penn State. That's the land grant university. That's the state school.”. I don't fault him for saying it, he needs to. But I think he is trying to lump Pitt in the category of Temple and not as a legitimate threat. Will be an uphill battle this year w/ all of the new starters but I can only imagine how he spins it if we win again.

Barbour's quotes about not continuing the series because of the way fans treat each other are ridiculous. I didn't hear many complaints about over the top stuff after the game last year. Does she even know what a rivalry is supposed to look like?

 

[9nationalchampionships]

jimmy slapnuts - "certain" = Not tolerant of criminals

 

[yourhired]

Rivals make college football PSU wishes Pitt wasn't a rival but it is. If Pitt wasn't a rival to PSU then coach spencer up at PSU wouldn't be flapping his mouth about the big ten ring and the rose bowl participation ring all over BWI because of Salem's key chain. I hope Pitt wins the remaining three then I would tell PSU call us when you want to get serious.

 

[HailtoPitt]

He is right. Penn State is 'all in' on college football. Pitt is not. If a high school recruit is willing to be part of that 'all in' mentality, even if it means joining a cult that defends child rape enablers, he should commit to Penn State.

 

[FreeportPanther]

Na, this is talking trash.......

Link to the trash talking: http://brobible.com/sports/article/pitt-fans-penn-state-trash/

Deranged Pitt Fans Are Dishing Some Serious Trash Talk In Anticipation Of The Pitt-Penn State Game This Weekend
By Brandon
Wenerd 09.08.16 0

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I’ve had this upcoming college football Saturday circled on my calendar for a very, very long time. After a 16-year hiatus, this week Penn State finally plays it’s former in-state rival Pitt. Growing up in Central PA, the annual game was one of my favorite traditions back in the day, especially in the years before Penn State joined the Big Ten.

Penn State has co-opted WVU’s infamous “Eat $hit, Pitt” slogan, while Pitt fans are making “Joe Knew” shirts. And on Reddit’s R/CFB week 2 trash talk thread, one deranged Pitt fan penned the ultimate rant for this week’s rivalry.

Well Joe did Know, so what do you expect the shirts to say?

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Na, this is talking trash.......

Link to the trash talking: http://brobible.com/sports/article/pitt-fans-penn-state-trash/

Deranged Pitt Fans Are Dishing Some Serious Trash Talk In Anticipation Of The Pitt-Penn State Game This Weekend
By Brandon
Wenerd 09.08.16 0

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I’ve had this upcoming college football Saturday circled on my calendar for a very, very long time. After a 16-year hiatus, this week Penn State finally plays it’s former in-state rival Pitt. Growing up in Central PA, the annual game was one of my favorite traditions back in the day, especially in the years before Penn State joined the Big Ten.

Penn State has co-opted WVU’s infamous “Eat $hit, Pitt” slogan, while Pitt fans are making “Joe Knew” shirts. And on Reddit’s R/CFB week 2 trash talk thread, one deranged Pitt fan penned the ultimate rant for this week’s rivalry.

It speaks volumes about the current state of UPS when they start to co-opt anything from WVU.

So what's next? Singing "Take Me Home, Country Roads", too? (Although I have to admit that there are blatant similarities between West Virginia and the backwoods mentality found in Central PA....)

 

[Joe Magarac]

The carnival barkers weak attempt at damning with faint praise.
What would the pedos do if they could not look down their Pinocchio noses at all others.
Their morbid sense of self worth comes only from convincing themselves that they are better than all others.
What a group of misfits.
They need to move back to covering up fraternity deaths and pedofillia on their gated comunity of a campus.

 

[FreeportPanther]

The carnival barkers weak attempt at damning with faint praise.
What would the pedos do if they could not look down their Pinocchio noses at all others.
Their morbid sense of self worth comes only from convincing themselves that they are better than all others.
What a group of misfits.
They need to move back to covering up fraternity deaths and pedofillia on their gated comunity of a campus.

I'm generally not in favor of "walls", but a big electrified one topped with Razor wire around that place would be a great idea.

 

[wbrpanther]

Does anybody besides me think that Franklins comment in the Trib ( http://triblive.com/sports/college/...rivalry-wont-renew-until-2025-at-the-earliest) is talking trash on Pitt.
Here is his quote " “Western Pa. (talent) historically, and I would even say the last couple years, has been really strong,” Franklin said. “For certain kids and certain families, Pitt's a really good option, as well"

Piece of s**t quote from a piece of s**t. What he means is some some kids aren't "Penn State material". That would be the ones that choose Pitt over Ped State.

 

[wbrpanther]

The carnival barkers weak attempt at damning with faint praise.
What would the pedos do if they could not look down their Pinocchio noses at all others.
Their morbid sense of self worth comes only from convincing themselves that they are better than all others.
What a group of misfits.
They need to move back to covering up fraternity deaths and pedofillia on their gated comunity of a campus.

This from a school that enabled the rape of young boys for 40 years and looks the other way while their frats to abuse pledges till one finally dies.

 

[FreeportPanther]

We should genuflect to the mighty PedState!
After All:
We have never had 2 top administrators plead guilty to covering up child rape.
We have never had our chancellor convicted of the same thing in a court of law.
We have never had dozens of frat boys indicted for killing a pledge.
We aren't a cult, adoring a dead disgraced fraudulent child rape enabler,
So, yeah, we should shut up.

 

[vietvet1]

I could care less what any one from ups says...period!

 

[Skip74]

We will beat them again this Fall. Mcsorley will throw 3 INT. And in the aftermath, PED State will trot out a whole new set of tired slogans about "Pitt not being a rival."

 

[Panther Holla]

Penn State plays the role of the aging dowager to perfection. Faded glory. Like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, living wistfully off the past waiting for her next closeup, We ought to accept that their haughtiness will never, ever dissipate because they are living inside their Happy Valley vacuum where all they hold dear is recirculated through their li'l ol' Nittany noggins. And so we get Jimmy Franks alluding to some obligatory allegiance to "the land grant university" -- which I haven't heard in a while. (BTW, that assumes one considers oneself to be a Pennsylvanian over one's hometown, which I do not. I'm a Pittsburgher, and my homeland is occupied by the government of Harrisburg.) And then you have "I'm a Barbie Girl in a Peddo World" Barbour spouting about scheduling and civility.... while PSU was and is a bastion of unspeakable behavior.

 

[pittdan77]

I think that given the outcomes, Franklin to be a little less direct when he takes shots at Pitt.

 

[zookeeper2000]

I didn't think the quote was all that controversial...

Although I'm calling BS about not knowing they are honoring the 2016 PSU team at the Pitt game. You know that was intentional and him acting like he had no idea is totally fake.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

How is a cow pasture 2.5 hours away, "home" for a kid from Clairton or Penn Hills? Because if the name of the school? Its called Penn State but its not even a full-state university. If it was called the University of Central Pennsylvania, would it still be "home." Why isn't "home" Columbus, Ohio which is barely further away?

 

[mdpitt]

Does anybody besides me think that Franklins comment in the Trib ( http://triblive.com/sports/college/...rivalry-wont-renew-until-2025-at-the-earliest) is talking trash on Pitt.
Here is his quote " “Western Pa. (talent) historically, and I would even say the last couple years, has been really strong,” Franklin said. “For certain kids and certain families, Pitt's a really good option, as well"

I read it like this:

Pitt is a much safer place for kids and the education is more rigorous. Penn State needs to be viewed with an open mind. We are trying to put our problems behind us. Certain kids who want to become adjusted to the real world should go to Pitt and other families know their kids are more fragile mentally and should choose rural Penn State.

 

[Saboteur]

Does anybody besides me think that Franklins comment in the Trib ( http://triblive.com/sports/college/...rivalry-wont-renew-until-2025-at-the-earliest) is talking trash on Pitt.
Here is his quote " “Western Pa. (talent) historically, and I would even say the last couple years, has been really strong,” Franklin said. “For certain kids and certain families, Pitt's a really good option, as well"

Ask Mr and Mrs Piazza what they think of Penn State.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Definitely throwing subtle digs Pitt's way. I think this quote was telling: “For us to go where we want to go, we want to keep all the best players in the state and all the best players in this region home. When I say home, that's Penn State. That's the land grant university. That's the state school.”. I don't fault him for saying it, he needs to. But I think he is trying to lump Pitt in the category of Temple and not as a legitimate threat. Will be an uphill battle this year w/ all of the new starters but I can only imagine how he spins it if we win again.

Barbour's quotes about not continuing the series because of the way fans treat each other are ridiculous. I didn't hear many complaints about over the top stuff after the game last year. Does she even know what a rivalry is supposed to look like?

Other land grant universities include schools such as Alaska-Fairbanks, Colorado St, Idaho, Kansas State, Iowa State, Maine, UDC, Montana State, Mississippi St, New Hampshire, New Mexico State, Nevada-Reno, North Dakota State, Rhode Island, South Dakota State, Utah State, Vermont, Washington State, WVU, Wyoming, etc.

Some schools that aren't land grants: Michigan, Virginia, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech, Iowa, Kansas, Indiana, Texas, SUNY, Utah, Alabama, Colorado, Ole Miss, Oregon, Washington, and every single notable private school you can think of.

I'm not sure what he means by that. But congrats to him on the farm.

Pitt is Western Pennsylvania's University.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Definitely throwing subtle digs Pitt's way. I think this quote was telling: “For us to go where we want to go, we want to keep all the best players in the state and all the best players in this region home. When I say home, that's Penn State. That's the land grant university. That's the state school.”. I don't fault him for saying it, he needs to. But I think he is trying to lump Pitt in the category of Temple and not as a legitimate threat. Will be an uphill battle this year w/ all of the new starters but I can only imagine how he spins it if we win again.

Barbour's quotes about not continuing the series because of the way fans treat each other are ridiculous. I didn't hear many complaints about over the top stuff after the game last year. Does she even know what a rivalry is supposed to look like?

Other land grant universities include schools such as Alaska-Fairbanks, Colorado St, Idaho, Kansas State, Iowa State, Maine, UDC, Montana State, Mississippi St, New Hampshire, New Mexico State, Nevada-Reno, North Dakota State, Rhode Island, South Dakota State, Utah State, Vermont, Washington State, WVU, Wyoming, etc.

Some schools that aren't land grants: Michigan, Virginia, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech, Iowa, Kansas, Indiana, Texas, SUNY, Utah, Alabama, Colorado, Ole Miss, Oregon, Washington, and every single notable private school you can think of.

I'm not sure what he means by that. But congrats to him on the farm.

Pitt is Western Pennsylvania's University.

And Penn State is Central Pennsylvania's state-related university. Temple is Eastern PA's state-related university. I don't understand under what criteria Franklin is using to call Penn State "home" for kids in Western PA.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

How is a cow pasture 2.5 hours away, "home" for a kid from Clairton or Penn Hills? Because if the name of the school? Its called Penn State but its not even a full-state university. If it was called the University of Central Pennsylvania, would it still be "home." Why isn't "home" Columbus, Ohio which is barely further away?

Actually, Columbus is closer to Pittsburgh than Shittany Valley, at least in time it takes to get there, and it's certainly easier to get to from here. And to top it off, it's a real city as opposed to a cow pasture. Shittany Valley has zero to offer any sane, civilized person, unless you like to smell cow manure and be around child rape constantly.

 

[michnittlion]

Other land grant universities include schools such as Alaska-Fairbanks, Colorado St, Idaho, Kansas State, Iowa State, Maine, UDC, Montana State, Mississippi St, New Hampshire, New Mexico State, Nevada-Reno, North Dakota State, Rhode Island, South Dakota State, Utah State, Vermont, Washington State, WVU, Wyoming, etc.

Some schools that aren't land grants: Michigan, Virginia, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech, Iowa, Kansas, Indiana, Texas, SUNY, Utah, Alabama, Colorado, Ole Miss, Oregon, Washington, and every single notable private school you can think of.

I'm not sure what he means by that. But congrats to him on the farm.

Pitt is Western Pennsylvania's University.

That's odd --- only one "other land grant University" is from a state that ranks among the top 22 in population (Washington State)?

Do big population states not have land grant Universities? If they do, why did you not list them?

 

[JED_72]

Other land grant universities include schools such as Alaska-Fairbanks, Colorado St, Idaho, Kansas State, Iowa State, Maine, UDC, Montana State, Mississippi St, New Hampshire, New Mexico State, Nevada-Reno, North Dakota State, Rhode Island, South Dakota State, Utah State, Vermont, Washington State, WVU, Wyoming, etc.

Some schools that aren't land grants: Michigan, Virginia, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech, Iowa, Kansas, Indiana, Texas, SUNY, Utah, Alabama, Colorado, Ole Miss, Oregon, Washington, and every single notable private school you can think of.

I'm not sure what he means by that. But congrats to him on the farm.

Pitt is Western Pennsylvania's University.

One prestigious university that is a land grant that almost nobody would call "The STATE UNIVERSITY", as coach Franklin likes to call Pa's "so superior state u", is Cornell University. Cornell is the land grant university of NY . . . Does anyone think of Cornell as the "STATE University of NY"?. Or whatever Jimmy Franks thinks "the state u" means anyway.

Even among states with great farm schools, for example, who do Texans think is their "STATE University"?: The University of Texas? Probably. And, which school is the Texas land grant school? It's Texas A&M. Not U of T. So is Texas A&M "the" state university of Texas?

In Virginia, my guess is most Virginians think the University of Virginia is the "state university". But, which school is the "Land grant university"? Not Virginia. It's Virginia Tech.

How this boob, (Jimmy Franks), decides that land grant status defines a state's "primary or most significant" university is pure balderdash. Pennsylvania, and many of the early states, had prestigious higher education institutions that long preceded the 1862 formation of land grant schools (like the Pennsylvania Farmers High School, now Pennsylvania State University).
PSU, a good university, but in a state with many good universities it isn't "so superior" to the others. They just think they are.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

I fail to see why people think a "Land Grant" school is something "special" for the state in which resides.

It is what it is, but certainly not something I would brag about if I attended one of those schools.

"A land-grant university (also called land-grant college or land-grant institution) is an institution of higher education in the United States designated by a state to receive the benefits of the Morrill Acts of 1862 and 1890.

The Morrill Acts funded educational institutions by granting federally controlled land to the states for them to sell, to raise funds, to establish and endow "land-grant" colleges. The mission of these institutions as set forth in the 1862 Act is to focus on the teaching of practical agriculture, science, military science and engineering (though "without excluding ... classical studies"), as a response to the industrial revolution and changing social class.[1][2] This mission was in contrast to the historic practice of higher education to focus on an abstract liberal arts curriculum.

Ultimately, most land-grant colleges became large public universities that today offer a full spectrum of educational opportunities. However, some land-grant colleges are private schools, including Cornell University, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Do big population states not have land grant Universities? If they do, why did you not list them?

I think every state has at least one. From the more populous states, I believe Berkeley is land grant, but I don't know about the rest of the UC system schools. UMass is land grant, as is Florida. Someone else mentioned Texas A&M. Like several other states Texas has two land grant schools, the second being Prairie View (in most states with more than one the second one is a HBC). Cornell has already been mentioned. North Carolina State is one (as is North Carolina A&T). Georgia is another.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university#/media/File:Land_Grant_Colleges_Map.svg

 

[JED_72]

That's odd --- only one "other land grant University" is from a state that ranks among the top 22 in population (Washington State)?

Do big population states not have land grant Universities? If they do, why did you not list them?

Not speaking for the other writer but other big states have land grant schools: In New York it is Cornell . . . hardly considered NY's state university. And, the University of California System is considered a land grant university. Texas is a large state and Texas A&M is a land grant university. Keep in mind land grant schools were intended in 1862 to provide training focused in agriculture and the mechanical and home arts.

 

[JED_72]

I think every state has at least one. From the more populous states, I believe Berkeley is land grant, but I don't know about the rest of the UC system schools. UMass is land grant, as is Florida. Someone else mentioned Texas A&M. Like several other states Texas has two land grant schools, the second being Prairie View (in most states with more than one the second one is a HBC). Cornell has already been mentioned. North Carolina State is one (as is North Carolina A&T). Georgia is another.

An 1890 (+-) change to the Land Grant College law provided land grant subsidies to historically black colleges & universities. Some of those you mention were beneficiaries of that change.

 

[CrazyPaco]

I think every state has at least one. From the more populous states, I believe Berkeley is land grant, but I don't know about the rest of the UC system schools. UMass is land grant, as is Florida. Someone else mentioned Texas A&M. Like several other states Texas has two land grant schools, the second being Prairie View (in most states with more than one the second one is a HBC). Cornell has already been mentioned. North Carolina State is one (as is North Carolina A&T). Georgia is another.

Exactly, every state, dc, and 5 territories have them. There are 76 total and they range in size and scale, some are state "flagships," some are not. Some are good schools, some not so good schools, and at least one school that would cover up child rape for decades to protect a sports program. The only meaning to being a "land grant" is the history it denotes about the origin of the school's initial founding and funding. Otherwise it is meaningless.

 

[michnittlion]

Exactly, every state, dc, and 5 territories have them. There are 76 total and they range in size and scale, some are state "flagships," some are not. Some are good schools, some not so good schools, and at least one school that would cover up child rape for decades to protect a sports program. The only meaning to being a "land grant" is the history it denotes about the origin of the school's initial founding and funding. Otherwise it is meaningless.

True. I'll repeat my question then. Why did your list of "land grant universities" not include (with the exception of one) any from the 22 largest states in the country?

 

[CrazyPaco]

True. I'll repeat my question then. Why did your list of "land grant universities" not include (with the exception of one) any from the 22 largest states in the country?

What? Like Texas? New York? Massachusetts? Virginia? North Carolina? Michigan? Indiana? Colorado? Alabama? You want me to point out states like California or Florida that had no substantial higher education institutions in 1862 as some sort of relevant point to Pennsylvania? Why the hell would I and what the hell does state size have to do with your misogynistic football coaches' ridiculous assertions that because an institution was funded 150 years ago by land grant legislation would somehow demand sports loyalty from everyone who lives there? Guess what, the Commonwealth granted Pitt proceeds from the sale of 5K acres in 1787 and another grant in the 1790s and another in 1819. Get lost cultist sicko. Go defend your pathetic, depraved diploma-mill institution somewhere that gives a damn.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Here to defend the cult diploma mill again! Are there any footballers from the prestigious world campus?

True. I'll repeat my question then. Why did your list of "land grant universities" not include (with the exception of one) any from the 22 largest states in the country?

 

[H2Pittisit]

Does anybody besides me think that Franklins comment in the Trib ( http://triblive.com/sports/college/...rivalry-wont-renew-until-2025-at-the-earliest) is talking trash on Pitt.
Here is his quote " “Western Pa. (talent) historically, and I would even say the last couple years, has been really strong,” Franklin said. “For certain kids and certain families, Pitt's a really good option, as well"

He is probably referring to kids like Paris Ford that no matter what he did he wasn't going to land. He didn't even take official visits did he?

 

[michnittlion]

Here to defend the cult diploma mill again! Are there any footballers from the prestigious world campus?

I'm not defending PSU --- just calling out CrazyPaco for an instance of intellectual dishonesty.

He knew what he was doing with his list of land grant schools.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...9BIQTo&usg=AFQjCNEDYJHd6PYWRrW2qC_u7Ur69Q_wVw

I'm not defending PSU --- just calling out CrazyPaco for an instance of intellectual dishonesty.

He knew what he was doing with his list of land grant schools.

 

[natetivv99]

You have to forgive Paco.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Funny how we are infested with cult members on our board but no one outside of the cult can post on their site........can you say paranoid ~

You have to forgive Paco.