Franklin Hasn't Been A Good Fit At Penn State,' SI says; Kirk Herbstreit's, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I was just with a Big PSU Graduate known for his career in Gang Violence Investigations with the Feds very smart, plays no games, says what he means, and fears no one at all, just a plain talker with great contacts at Penn State. Asked him about JF and came out and said this is not a Player's Coach this guy is just about himself. He pointed out how he misused Hackenberg last year and Hack was limping often and it looked to him he wanted Hack to get hurt. He went on to say he would love to have Narduzzi at Penn State, and added he think Coach Pat will stay at Pitt unlike other coaches. Looks like many Analysts are starting to see the "Franklin's Waiting Game" is waning and 'Old Main" was smart not give out an Extension?

Excerpt:
Today's Penn State football news headlines feature more coaching carousel talk for James Franklin and insights on the Lions from ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit.

Pete Thamel of Sports Illustrated put Franklin near the top of his list of coaching jobs that could turn over at some point in 2016. He cited Franklin's 0-6 record against the power schools of the Big Ten East division and concluded that Franklin simply "hasn't been a good fit" through two-plus seasons.

Thamel wrote:
James Franklin just hasn't been a good fit at Penn State. But would the school really pay more than $13 million to fire him? That's difficult to imagine, especially since he took over a roster still ailing from the NCAA sanctions and inevitable lackluster recruiting following the Jerry Sandusky scandal. Still, Penn State officials can't be thrilled about the Nittany Lions' status as the definitive fourth-string team in the Big Ten East. Penn State lost to Ohio State, Michigan and Michigan State by a combined score of 121–42 last year, and Franklin is 0–6 against those schools. ... The Nittany Lions play at Pittsburgh, host Temple and travel to Michigan during September. If they don't show a spark and better game management, things could get dicey in State College.
Mark Wogenrich of the Allentown Morning call had the latest from Herbstreit from a conference call with reporters.
"It was almost as if these last couple years with [Christian Hackenberg], it just seemed to be -— it just didn't fit with what James Franklin was trying to do, after what Bill O'Brien had done," Herbstreit said, according to the Morning Call. "It just kind of seemed to be out of rhythm or out of sorts offensively."
LINK:
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefo...nklin_hasnt_been_a_go.html#incart_river_index

 

[medixman]

Captain your Psu friend might have a brilliant mind in his field but maybe not when it comes to seeing what's happening on the field.I also fear Noone but that led me to getting my butt kicked several times and being put in my place in a few verbal dispute when I thought I knew more than I did! I've never talked to anyone that said that the players didn't like Franklin,thats a new one.Asked your friend if he thought Franklin did a good job at Vanderbilt and if the players there liked him.Also ask him how Hackenburg could of been used differently,Id be interested to know this answer.Plus the best of the best Franklin tried to get Hackenburg hurt,right there told me this guy is talking to hear himself speak.Yes every coach tries to get their qb hurt that's the way to win games!Come on don't tell me you believed that line of bs?I hope he solves every gang related problem in the country but don't be talking about coaches and trying to get players hurt!Weak very weak Captain!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"medixman, post: 1536980, member: 28301"]Captain your Psu friend might have a brilliant mind in his field but maybe not when it comes to seeing what's happening on the field.I also fear Noone but that led me to getting my butt kicked several times and being put in my place in a few verbal dispute when I thought I knew more than I did!
He is all Penn State he, his wife, daughters and sons all went there, great Alumni, superb citizens and all engineers. It is only his opinion, he is a straight shooter, he would be the first to say he it is not gospel. Saw him again today, trust me is a fine example of being a the best of Penn State and why I defend PSU on the Lair where i can and why, but also know some flaws and all, and those at Pitt & WVU too? I respect your views and have no problem having my own challenged as well. You talk football that is what is important!

I've never talked to anyone that said that the players didn't like Franklin,thats a new one.
I did not say he said PSU Players did not like Franklin if you think I did, I stand corrected or it was misinterpreted and can be fixed now. He said, Franklin is not a Players Coach that is different thing, He used how he played Hackenberg even as injured and limping and notice Hack did not like Franklin and that is no secret. Why Hack was happy to leave this year and would not play hurt in the bowl game and did not go back in, and a number of Players and Parents have left and some felt as Hack.

Franklin on the other hand wants his own players and now has most of them in his pipeline, so we shall see?

Asked your friend if he thought Franklin did a good job at Vanderbilt and if the players there liked him.
I will next time we talk. You do it was published some Former PSU Players also felt Franklin's Coaching is lacking on the field with big losses to Big Ten Teams? Todd Blackledge was one of them, so it is fair to say there is some discontent and non-belief in Franklin.

Also ask him how Hackenburg could of been used differently,Id be interested to know this answer.Plus the best of the best Franklin tried to get Hackenburg hurt,right there told me this guy is talking to hear himself speak.
Perhaps but he bleeds Blue & White and we all witnessed hack limping many games last year. O'Brien figured out how to use Hack better than Franklin is obvious too, is it not. Hack got worse not better is that true or false in your opinion? who is the Head Coach has to accept some blame or do you blame only hack?

Yes every coach tries to get their qb hurt that's the way to win games!Come on don't tell me you believed that line of bs?
Once again, not my point but a devoted PSU Fan and evidence is hack played Hurt did he not? Whether intentional I agree can be debated, but Hack getting worse as QB after being 2013 Big Ten Freshmen of the Year is a fact, and Franklin did not make him better after 2 years but worse? Do you call that good coaching?

I hope he solves every gang related problem in the country but don't be talking about coaches and trying to get players hurt!Weak very weak Captain!
I told you I have Long Ears at Penn State and last year posted Franklin is still not on solid ground, many laughed, but today, National Analysts are saying the same thing, and up to Franklin to prove them wrong not me.

What is weak is you too and others so far you can't prove Franklin is right fit for Penn State either and tell us all we must wait, not just in 2016 but 2017 or 2018?

I know you blame Sanctions and that is Ok, but that means Paterno Football Era was weak since he left them with Sanctions and less wins then 6 other Big Ten Teams since 2000?

Another weakness I have seen from Penn State Fans is that refuse to tell me when Franklin will get an Extension? If you are and others are so confident why not write and email Penn State and demand an Extension?

Just some observations, CFN College football news says Franklin will beat Pitt, Temple, MSU and Iowa and lose to OSU, UM, and Indiana and go 9-3 in 2016, so they have confidence in Franklin.

Also, here is PennLive Article that agrees with your own position that Franklin stays at 6-6 or 6-7!
LINK:
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefo...ootball_james_fran_25.html#incart_river_index

We shall see?

 

[chethejet]

The change in staff is a indication of fleeing the program. Really, how many P5 programs were knocking down Fordhams door for the OC? Pry being promoted smacks of Matt House which is surprising since PSU can throw some serious coin at a top DC. Did they really interview anyone? As to the improvement in nitterland. Yes PSU will be better. They have recruited very well especially on the Ol the last two years. They have a terrific RB in Barkley. He is a difference maker. Defense especially the DL is not there. Unless the nits land better talent, that is a problem.

As to the schedule, no longer cupcake city so there is that. As to the 2017 year that the nits claim that is the real year thing breakout. Nope not with that schedule. Beat Pitt maybe 8 to 9 wins. Lose to Pitt which I expect, 7 to 8 wins. Is that enough? for Franklin yes. But after 2017, I suspect things will be hot.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Given their fans' ravenous lust for glory, anything less than a championship will be a disappointment. Until that happens, UPS will continue to be looked upon as just another "little brother" school to the big boys of the Big Ten.

As it stands now, they don't deserve to be spoken in the same sentence as tOSU and MSU. And Harbaugh won't be taking a backseat to Franklin either.