Franklin Reinstates LB Bowen???

[BuffetParrothead]

Based on an article in Sunday's fishwrapper The Morning Call this guy was suspended and dismissed from the team and is now being reinstated.

According to Franklin he decided to bring Bowen back after Bowen met "stipulations" that he Franklin put in place? It also mentions the Nitters are short on LB's this season so maybe that's the reason Bowen is allowed back on the team?

I went back and all I could find was Bowen was dismissed from the program. There was nothing saying he was on a "rehab" program that Franklin is monitoring.

This is the problem with suspensions and dismissals. I thought when you're dismissed from the program you're dismissed from the program. You're fired! Bye! See ya! Go somewhere else and torture that program! etc.

But the Nitter football program comes up short in the LB area so we bring back a dismissed player.
I actually like the idea but only if PITT gets to do the same thing!

I believe college football needs to have some consistency in this area. Like maybe dismissed means You Are Gone!

If players do something wrong and its bad enough to be dismissed and they get reinstated maybe they shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place. Are PITT's standards for dismissal to strick?

If we're going to compete we have to be just like our competitors otherwise join the Ivy League.


PITT buys their dismissed players one way tickets "out tha house."

The Nitters and other programs keep them in town until the smoke clears and adds them back when they think noone is paying attention.

When will we bring Reeves back since we're short on TE's?


"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[SUPERTODD]

People were speculating he failed two tests for weed. Similar to Whitehead’s issues.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Based on an article in Sunday's fishwrapper The Morning Call this guy was suspended and dismissed from the team and is now being reinstated.

According to Franklin he decided to bring Bowen back after Bowen met "stipulations" that he Franklin put in place? It also mentions the Nitters are short on LB's this season so maybe that's the reason Bowen is allowed back on the team?

I went back and all I could find was Bowen was dismissed from the program. There was nothing saying he was on a "rehab" program that Franklin is monitoring.

This is the problem with suspensions and dismissals. I thought when you're dismissed from the program you're dismissed from the program. You're fired! Bye! See ya! Go somewhere else and torture that program! etc.

But the Nitter football program comes up short in the LB area so we bring back a dismissed player.

I believe college football needs to have some consistency in this area.

If players do something wrong and its bad enough to be dismissed and they get reinstated maybe they shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place. Are PITT's standards for dismissal to strick?

If we're going to compete we have to be just like our competitors otherwise join the Ivy League.


PITT buys their dismissed places on way tickets "out tha house." The Nitters and other programs keep them in town until the smoke clears and adds them back.

When are we bring Reeves back since we're short on TE's?


"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

I didn't know he was suspended. I asked this a few months ago, but I don't ever remember a starter-level player being kicked off or suspended for even a game for PSU going back decades. A few PSU fans said they couldn't think of any either. Once you attain starter status, your grades and behavior are exempt from discipline

 

[BuffetParrothead]

I didn't know he was suspended. I asked this a few months ago, but I don't ever remember a starter-level player being kicked off or suspended for even a game for PSU going back decades. A few PSU fans said they couldn't think of any either. Once you attain starter status, your grades and behavior are exempt from discipline

I'm quoting from the paper now.
"Bowen who started nine games last season was dismissed prior to the Fiesta Bowl for an unspecified violation of team rules.
Bowen was suspended for the season's final three regular season games before being dismissed.
Bowen was also suspended for the 2017 Rose Bowl."

Sounds like a repeat offender, suspended, suspended, dismissed, reinstated???????????????? Dismissed has to mean something that's more serious than suspended.

Well we need an LB?

I guess my point is if PITT's goal is to show everyone how virtuous the program is they won't be able to compete with other programs who don't have that same goal. Which is most other top programs!

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[gourdt]

Penn State is replacing something like 9 starters on D. They may have a ton of talent, but it takes time to get together. They are also getting a lot of love nationaly. If they look weak on D against App St. That reputation will take a huge hit.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Penn State is replacing something like 9 starters on D. They may have a ton of talent, but it takes time to get together. They are also getting a lot of love nationaly. If they look weak on D against App St. That reputation will take a huge hit.

I agree but have no idea what this has to do with the topic.
I suppose we could reinstate some previously dismissed players because we have a need somewhere.
How about TE? Reeves hasn't done anything wrong in the last two weeks or so, and even if he has we have a need at TE so let's add hiim back.

 

[President Stache]

Based on an article in Sunday's fishwrapper The Morning Call this guy was suspended and dismissed from the team and is now being reinstated.

According to Franklin he decided to bring Bowen back after Bowen met "stipulations" that he Franklin put in place? It also mentions the Nitters are short on LB's this season so maybe that's the reason Bowen is allowed back on the team?

I went back and all I could find was Bowen was dismissed from the program. There was nothing saying he was on a "rehab" program that Franklin is monitoring.

This is the problem with suspensions and dismissals. I thought when you're dismissed from the program you're dismissed from the program. You're fired! Bye! See ya! Go somewhere else and torture that program! etc.

But the Nitter football program comes up short in the LB area so we bring back a dismissed player.
I actually like the idea but only if PITT gets to do the same thing!

I believe college football needs to have some consistency in this area. Like maybe dismissed means You Are Gone!

If players do something wrong and its bad enough to be dismissed and they get reinstated maybe they shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place. Are PITT's standards for dismissal to strick?

If we're going to compete we have to be just like our competitors otherwise join the Ivy League.


PITT buys their dismissed players one way tickets "out tha house."

The Nitters and other programs keep them in town until the smoke clears and adds them back when they think noone is paying attention.

When will we bring Reeves back since we're short on TE's?


"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

What do you expect?

It’s the worlds worst place

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Yet the psu coverage in the PG refuses to investigate why the suspension in the first place. Imagine if situation was reversed and it happened here. No one questions what goes on at psu

 

[billyberoux]

Yet the psu coverage in the PG refuses to investigate why the suspension in the first place. Imagine if situation was reversed and it happened here. No one questions what goes on at psu

It's not that no one questions it, it's that everyone already knows how that place operates.

 

[Macchiato]

It's time to the The Weed off The Drug Test

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Yet the psu coverage in the PG refuses to investigate why the suspension in the first place. Imagine if situation was reversed and it happened here. No one questions what goes on at psu

Not much to investigate. A few marijuana violations. Not good at all, but in the current college football climate, not all too severe. He's definitely received a more than adequate punishment (3 regular season gams + 2 NY6 Bowls + kicked off team). Thankfully, he hasn't put anyone in danger.

Now imagine for a second that he got piss drunk then hopped in a car. Say his driving was so reckless that he was risking the lives of many, the police had to restrain him at gun point, and he then faced 8 criminal charges. Then imagine that Franklin determined it was so minor that a one game suspension against an FCS opponent was good enough. Oh well.

I think suspending players for non-football related stuff is stupid. We have laws in this country in place to punish.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

I think suspending players for non-football related stuff is stupid. We have laws in this country in place to punish.

One of the first ( well maybe the second) time I agree with you!
Plus the punishment for suspension or dismissal is subjective and inconsistent across college football.
In addition the U has its own code of conduct so it the infraction is "bad" the player will probably be sent home and expelled.
Let them play!

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[bayardstreet]

If they weren’t short on middle linebackers they would have proded him to move on.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I think suspending players for non-football related stuff is stupid. We have laws in this country in place to punish.

One of the first ( well maybe the second) time I agree with you!
Plus the punishment for suspension or dismissal is subjective and inconsistent across college football.
In addition the U itself has its own code of conduct so it the infraction is "bad" the player will probably be sent home and expelled.
Let them play!

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

Except for extreme cases like rape, murder, domestic abuse, etc.

Fail a drug test: You play
Beat someone up at a frat party: You play
DUI: You play

 

[BuffetParrothead]

If they weren’t short on middle linebackers they would have proded him to move on.

That's my problem with this. It's called selective discipline. Franklin says he's loaded with OLmen so if he was an OL guy he'd be taking a Greyhound out of town.

 

[foxchapelpanther]

He was suspended mostly bc of academics. His gpa was in freefall and supposedly he totally stopped going to class

His reinstatement was predicated on class attendance spring and summer and raising his GPA below a certain threshold

Also don’t think he starts - cam brown, jan johnson, and koa farmer are first team. Bowen has been very underwhelming from what I understand

 

[pittdoc57]

Yeah, I don't know why anybody cares all that much. Looks like he will wind up being a depth guy, most likely.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

He was suspended mostly bc of academics. His gpa was in freefall and supposedly he totally stopped going to class

His reinstatement was predicated on class attendance spring and summer and raising his GPA below a certain threshold

Also don’t think he starts - cam brown, jan johnson, and koa farmer are first team. Bowen has been very underwhelming from what I understand

I doubt that was the issue due to the timing of his suspensions and dismissal.
I thought maybe he got his nose out of joint for not being accepted to Harvard Med School?


"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[h2p_5150]

I agree but have no idea what this has to do with the topic.
I suppose we could reinstate some previously dismissed players because we have a need somewhere.
How about TE? Reeves hasn't done anything wrong in the last two weeks or so, and even if he has we have a need at TE so let's add hiim back.

Reeves didn't really get kicked off the team. He literally just didn't show up and wouldn't communicate with the coaches. He quit.

 

[jup540]

It was academics related. Got back on track to graduate in December and was allowed back on the team.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

It was academics related. Got back on track to graduate in December and was allowed back on the team.

No it wasn't. You dont get kicked off the team for because your grades are so bad and theb magically get back on track in a few months. Sounds like a few failed drug tests and Pitt fans should know about those. We kick off 1-2 starters/year for smoking weed

 

[foxchapelpanther]

No it wasn't. You dont get kicked off the team for because your grades are so bad and theb magically get back on track in a few months. Sounds like a few failed drug tests and Pitt fans should know about those. We kick off 1-2 starters/year for smoking weed

I live in Barngat and know the hs coach - it was about him giving up academically and his reinstatement was if/when he get the gpa to the team eligible level again.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Hey, what's the big deal? We have a university with standards . . . unlike the Penn Snakes.

 

[SSS811]

I have read that it was academics related too. Had to raise his gpa if he wanted back on the team. Apparently he did it. Good for him.

We had a guy who led a drunken police chase through downtown and ended up in jail. He was suspended for one game. Not sure what type of point you're trying to make?

 

[jbenedict]

Based on an article in Sunday's fishwrapper The Morning Call this guy was suspended and dismissed from the team and is now being reinstated.

According to Franklin he decided to bring Bowen back after Bowen met "stipulations" that he Franklin put in place? It also mentions the Nitters are short on LB's this season so maybe that's the reason Bowen is allowed back on the team?

I went back and all I could find was Bowen was dismissed from the program. There was nothing saying he was on a "rehab" program that Franklin is monitoring.

This is the problem with suspensions and dismissals. I thought when you're dismissed from the program you're dismissed from the program. You're fired! Bye! See ya! Go somewhere else and torture that program! etc.

But the Nitter football program comes up short in the LB area so we bring back a dismissed player.
I actually like the idea but only if PITT gets to do the same thing!

I believe college football needs to have some consistency in this area. Like maybe dismissed means You Are Gone!

If players do something wrong and its bad enough to be dismissed and they get reinstated maybe they shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place. Are PITT's standards for dismissal to strick?

If we're going to compete we have to be just like our competitors otherwise join the Ivy League.


PITT buys their dismissed players one way tickets "out tha house."

The Nitters and other programs keep them in town until the smoke clears and adds them back when they think noone is paying attention.

When will we bring Reeves back since we're short on TE's?


"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

You do realize that a player can be dismissed as the result of academic issues, drug/alcohol issues, not following team rules etc... A team dismissal does not have to be a result of a crime being committed such as multiple DUI's. To suggest Franklin allowed him back on the team because we are short on linebackers is unfair. Most of the PSU Fan Base would not be okay if this was the case. I believe Manny Bowen had some real personal issues going on, and Manny inquired at one point as to what he could do to become a member of the team. A plan was created and needed to be accomplished/maintained over a period of time. Apparently he did this and was brought back. Some of the fan base are questioning how long he will make it. If you think Franklin would overlook discipline in favor of winning you have not been paying attention.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

I have read that it was academics related too. Had to raise his gpa if he wanted back on the team. Apparently he did it. Good for him.

We had a guy who led a drunken police chase through downtown and ended up in jail. He was suspended for one game. Not sure what type of point you're trying to make?

I was wondering when you would come back under a new handle. Didnt take all that long for you to resume trolling

 

[SSS811]

I'm not sure who you think I am, but this is my only username. Never had another, but think what you want.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

I have read that it was academics related too. Had to raise his gpa if he wanted back on the team. Apparently he did it. Good for him.

We had a guy who led a drunken police chase through downtown and ended up in jail. He was suspended for one game. Not sure what type of point you're trying to make?

Who cares!
I don't care about his driving skills I just want him to play football if he's good.

He can learn how to drive later in life.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Meet the new boss.........................same as the old boss...............

 

[Pitt79]

Bottom line is that "team rules" should just be "NCAA Minimum" No "higher standard" if the NCAA isn't stopping players from playing, then the school shouldn't either.

 

[Pitt79]

We had a guy who led a drunken police chase through downtown and ended up in jail. He was suspended for one game. Not sure what type of point you're trying to make?

That's how it should be. A biology major could do that and wouldn't miss an experiment.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

If they're in jail they can't play if they're not and the school didn't throw them out suit up we have a game on Saturday, maybe Friday or Thursday, just suit up.


"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[JokePa]

Yeah, I don't know why anybody cares all that much. Looks like he will wind up being a depth guy, most likely.

Because its morally bankrupt?

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Manny Bowen will not finish the PSU Nitter season as reported in the local Lehigh Valley Fishwrapper The Morning Call.

Interesting!

 

[Nationalchamps1]

Bottom line is that "team rules" should just be "NCAA Minimum" No "higher standard" if the NCAA isn't stopping players from playing, then the school shouldn't either.

Disagree, NCAA is a mess the schools need to police themselves.

 

[Nationalchamps1]

No it wasn't. You dont get kicked off the team for because your grades are so bad and theb magically get back on track in a few months. Sounds like a few failed drug tests and Pitt fans should know about those. We kick off 1-2 starters/year for smoking weed

Grades, probably others could be kicked off for weed???

 

[Pitt79]

Disagree, NCAA is a mess the schools need to police themselves.

So you punish yourself, the guy you play next week doesn't YOU LOSE!

YAY! We're MORAL! Go Team! They WIN-GET PAID!

 

[DiehardPanther]

It is absolutely hilarious reading the spin from Nitwits. If the kid was a star, then he’d still be playing. The holier than thou crap from Nitters was always a lie and still is.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Manny Bowen will not finish the PSU Nitter season as reported in the local Lehigh Valley Fishwrapper The Morning Call.

Link? What's the update on this saga?

 

[pittbb80]

Apparently they think they have another kid who can play as well as Bowen so he was expendable for image purposes.......