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!Has ESPN "Jumped the Shark"?
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I love that Latin shows great quotes follow Pioneers, and good posts by you.
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Good points and it has become a trend, where Radio and TV and Cable Hosts is now always talking about them, their families, and opinions on everything but Sports. I once in a while listen to The Fan and have to turn it off within minutes especially in Mornings, Mid-Noon and Afternoons, due to Colony, Mueller, Kooky & Baloney, Colin DumbLap and Snarkey talk about their personal lives, kids, music, and berate each other and trying to listen to Amy Lawrence makes one want to throw up. The same CBS Sports Radio format goes on in Cleveland, Philly and elsewhere. Zeise is nice because he talks sports!
Costas on Gun Control had nothing to do with Sports and neither did bringing in the great Keith Jackson during the Rose Bowl,
Again, he Game sells itself no matter what kind of lame game it sometimes becomes the Sports Broadcasters & Hosts he has to make them exciting with no conceit, just comes prepared elegance, without ever offending the highbrows, with no rewrites. No retakes just Plays of the moment with background in between.
Major Media, Networks, and now ESPN Cable lost as Lambs now and I predict they can't correct it. They are too big to change and cannot adapt just like Dinosaurs!
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So from everything I've gathered, from actual sourced news stories and not message board blowhards:
ESPN has lost 10 million subscribers through cord cutting, all while having to continue paying these over-inflated rights deals for the NFL, MLB and NBA. That's the biggest reason for the downsizing.
I'm sure the next move is to pay a diminished amount for the rights to broadcast these games live, as well as maybe letting one or two lapse completely. Do you think the NFL or MLB will just be A-Okay with receiving 20-percent less in fees? That's 20-percent less for salaries and operational costs? Yeah, I don't think so either. Gee, wonder where they'll make up the difference....*looks at a picture of Heinz Field*
ESPN has lost 10 million subscribers through cord cutting, all while having to continue paying these over-inflated rights deals for the NFL, MLB and NBA. That's the biggest reason for the downsizing.
I'm sure the next move is to pay a diminished amount for the rights to broadcast these games live, as well as maybe letting one or two lapse completely. Do you think the NFL or MLB will just be A-Okay with receiving 20-percent less in fees? That's 20-percent less for salaries and operational costs? Yeah, I don't think so either. Gee, wonder where they'll make up the difference....*looks at a picture of Heinz Field*
I still watch ESPN just as much. I never watched the opinion and talk shows very much, I just watch GAMES. I like basketball, football, soccer which they broadcast. I don't and never did care about talk shows, pre game shows, "personalities" any of that, as long as they broadcast games I want to see, especially now with DVR, I will watch ESPN. And I like the 30 for 30s too.
ESPN isn't giving the NHL the time of day because they don't have the rights to the NHL and with only one MLB postseason game they prioritize NFL and NBA coverage over it. Word is that ESPN will pick up some MLB Network programming during the day which makes me think they might do the same with the NBA.
You do realize they laid off scores of legitimate journalists because they had an insane number under contract. The "SJW minority uproar staff" is not killing them with their core viewership, the eyeballs are there for live games, the daytime programming is just there to fill time because it's cheap and used mainly as background noise as people mess around on their phones or iPads. ESPN is losing money because they overpaid for Monday Night Football and the NBA, people are getting rid of cable for numerous reasons so that $6 a month they get from every cable subscriber is dwindling.
The amount of people who believe this is over "left-leaning" anything makes me laugh. Ten million people decided they didn't need cable anymore and cut the cord. Know who isn't cutting their cord? Sports fans. Because cable is still pretty much the best method of seeing games. The people who dropped cable watch Netflix, Hulu and couldn't even tell you what the hell the ESPY Awards are, nevertheless that Kaitlin Jenner won one.
If it is over left-leaning things I can only applaud them because it means that mouth breather Danny Kannel is off the air.
Are you trying to suggest Jumped the Shark has an entirely different idiomatic meaning as Jumping the Shark?
Those are business decisions, therefore not jumping the shark. Jumping the shark would be having Kim Kardashian as a guest host on Sport Center or an analyst for the NFL Draft judging which picks have the tightest buns.
They most definitely are trending that way and to push the sports rights they do control. Obviously the demographics of NBA fans are less adverse to their agendas, so perhaps the further degradation of their viewership will be less drastic, once they have effectively killed the other half of their viewership.
I do realize that they absolutely decimated their legitimate journalist pool and are going to sink their heels in for their left leaning offerings and loud speaker personalities, who are turning off lots and lots of viewers. BTW, they aren't cutting low level journalists, but some of their best and most impactful across many sports. They aren't cutting dead weight.
That isn't true. And it isn't just cord cutting. There are lots of people who are not watching (but used to watch lots of it) any non-live sports content on ESPN because of what their product has become. Even programs like Sportscenter have completely reformatted and turned off far more viewers than they have attracted, because of the agendas and coverage they are pushing.
And ESPN believes it so much and the talk of it is so legitimate they felt they needed to publish a response to it, in which both named and unnamed ESPN sources said it was clear there was left leaning agenda, right leaning employees felt caged by it, and there was a problem with diversity of thought. Still, Disney/ABC/ESPN is going to piss into the wind and try to dig in deeper.
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They have had celebrity guest host anchors on Sportscenter.
And Mike Golic "recreated" a picture or magazine cover of Kardashians on air, so...
THAT can be jumping the shark, depending on the guest host. Having Berman as a guest host wouldn't really be that absurd, it would have to be someone that you wouldn't expect to do it, like Obama, Trump, or Lady Gaga. Something to try and boost ratings. Mike Golic doing something goofy is what he does. That would be more like jumping a minnow.
Ken Jeong (recreating his character from The Hangover) did it. I am sure there are others.
Then yes, that is more like Jumping the Shark, or Jumped the Shark for my grammatically impaired friends out there, than laying off employees.
ESPN pays $1.9 BILLION a year for the NFL and just lost 10 million subscribers who were paying $7 a month for the channel whether they wanted to or not. That matters more than a few people tuning out Sportscenter. Not to mention, the ones turning out SC were the ones advertisers don't give a damn about: older and whiter. We all know sponsors covet those 18-to-34 year olds, better known as millennials.
Pennlive down here in Harrisburg ran a story saying Karl Ravech (used to be local) got canned. I saw him on baseball tonight last night. He must have agreed to pick up the tab to cover his toupee expenses and was allowed to stay on.
Agree. And my personal favorite Eric "Sleeping With" Bienemy.
Yup. People don't watch SportsCenter any more and you can get stupid sports opinions just about anywhere you look. BarStool Sports is a prime example. ESPN might have figured out that broadcasting actual sports is where all of their money is invested so why not actually show some sports. Crazy, right?
Yeah, I am a millennial and many, many of my friends tune out for those reasons and it is happening all across the country.
Of course, though, the biggest issue is their terrible rights deals, which were way inflated. We will see unbelievable changes to the professional sports leagues and television in the coming years as these deals come back down to reality.
You work in cable, correct?
IMO, I wouldn't be surprised to see a major shift away from live sports. Younger kids don't seem as drawn in.
Just an observation, but I've had many conversations with family and friends who have said their appetite for professional sports has dropped.
Something seems to be changing, but that's just from my own bubble.
Good points. ESPN grew in a consolidated market. It's very fractured right now, and without cable it's knees are cut out.
Sports programming has an issue.
It seems to me lots of " super seniors" are watching less live sports especially when they move to senior, or assisted living, and the under 35 crowd is doing the same for cost savings reasons.
Subscriping to cable or satellite TV with the bundled packages is expensive and in our area costs increase at a high rate each year!
Both of our kids just purchased their first homes and took some cost savings measures one of which was to reduce their cable bill. Some of their friends are doing the same and they've found cheaper ways to watch sports. My 91 yr old mother just moved to assisted living and cancelled her cable which included ESPN and other sports channels. She hated sports but had them because of bundled packages and for viewing when relatives visited.
The middle group ( established humans) over 40 under 70 is supporting the sports networks.
It seems to me lots of " super seniors" are watching less live sports especially when they move to senior, or assisted living, and the under 35 crowd is doing the same for cost savings reasons.
Subscriping to cable or satellite TV with the bundled packages is expensive and in our area costs increase at a high rate each year!
Both of our kids just purchased their first homes and took some cost savings measures one of which was to reduce their cable bill. Some of their friends are doing the same and they've found cheaper ways to watch sports. My 91 yr old mother just moved to assisted living and cancelled her cable which included ESPN and other sports channels. She hated sports but had them because of bundled packages and for viewing when relatives visited.
The middle group ( established humans) over 40 under 70 is supporting the sports networks.
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Yeah, Sandy didn't flood NYC at all.
Both the left and right from around the world agree with the science because it's not hard to follow. The exception being a few bought and paid politicians. Exxon mobile even now gets it. Of course they are likely to be a defendant in the world's largest class action lawsuit since their own scientists believed they were causing climate change way back in the 1960s but they decided cover-up and mislead the public.
http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/climate-perspectives/our-position
Exxon Mobile must be part of that looney left. Good call on the handle- "parrot" is a prefect description of your comments. I bet the looney left also believed cigarettes were harmful.
Both the left and right from around the world agree with the science because it's not hard to follow. The exception being a few bought and paid politicians. Exxon mobile even now gets it. Of course they are likely to be a defendant in the world's largest class action lawsuit since their own scientists believed they were causing climate change way back in the 1960s but they decided cover-up and mislead the public.
http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/climate-perspectives/our-position
Exxon Mobile must be part of that looney left. Good call on the handle- "parrot" is a prefect description of your comments. I bet the looney left also believed cigarettes were harmful.
Hurricanes have happened from the beginning of time!
Looney tune!
We didn't have SUV's in these days Loon!
Deadliest Hurricane to Hit the United States
The Great Galveston Hurricane of 1900 was the deadliest hurricane to ever hit the United States and caused between 8000 and 12000 deaths. The storm reached the Texas coast south of Galveston on September 8 as a Category 4 hurricane with a storm surge of 8 to 15 feet. The lack of warning and the high storm surge caused this storm to have the highest death toll of any United States hurricane.
Second-Deadliest Hurricane to Hit the United States
The 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane which claimed 2500-3000 lives was the second-deadliest hurricane in United States history. Most of the deaths from this hurricane were caused by a lake surge of 6 to 9 feet that inundated areas surrounding Lake Okeechobee.
You lefties got beat bad and you cant and wont get over it which makes us on the right laugh and laugh and laugh at you people everyday!
You grab on to any and every delusional lefty thing throw out and you all look like a bunch of loons! Please keep it up so all you liberal dems become totally irrelevant!
Exxon Mobil will continue to grow as fossil fuels dominate the landscape!
Actually Exxon is one of the key stocks in my massive portfolio.
People with smarts and good jobs will continue to put money in their 401 k's which Exxon Mobil is a significant component and grow their wealth.
People like you spout out liberal left cult slogans and fall behind! LOL!
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Parrot, unless you fall in the 98th percentile you are in no way doing better. Now go look up that measurement so you know what I'm talking about.
You global warmers are irrelevant and becoming more irrelevant everyday!
You people have zero chance of winning another election with your leadership!
And yes see you in the 2% club!
Granted , I rarely watch ESPN outside of live games and pti any more with occasionally having sportscenter on in the background...
But , seriously why are people seeing politics in everything?
But , seriously why are people seeing politics in everything?
Are you taking smack about being in the top 2%? That isn't really hard. Hell, any intelligent, college educated couple should be top 5% by 30.
These days politics are in everything media related.
Disney ( 80%) a left leaning co and the Hearst Corp (20%) are the owners of ESPN.
There have been a number of right leaning people who were denied jobs with ESPN due to their politics. One is a major talk show host!
Also many of the ESPN commentators interject the views of the left into their broadcasts which suits Disney just fine!
Politics today is in everything!
-Black lives matter protests before most pro sports events and the discussion that follows
-Phil Simms and other football commentators wont call the Redskins the Redskins for political reasons
-Women announcers where a guy would be more appropriate
-Stacking the studio with minority analysts and commentators
-Remember the first gay NFL player? You couldn't watch football w/o hearing stuff on that one. Had he just been an NFL player he'd still be in the league.
-Bob Costas comments regarding the 2nd amendment
-Headline:Musburger wants Keith Olbermann to 'Get Off That Soapbox' and stick to sports commentary not politics
-Headline:
ESPN RATINGS PLUNGE
Liberal Politics to Blame?
Hmmm ... what's the correlation?
-UNC mixing sports and the "bathroom bill."
It goes on and on!
Politics is everywhere!
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So how do you put your spin on this one, El Flushbo?
http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/more-jobs-cuts-coming-at-fs1.html
Sounds like someone needs to start a Fox News version of a sports network to get the people who think that Disney and others are coming after their gun rights and pushing a gay agenda. Would probably make billions.
"Fair and Balanced Sports Network"
Fox started a sports network. Two of them. Guess what? They've shed a ton of jobs in the past two years too. No one is commenting on it because FS1 and FS2 are about as relevant as roller derby.
Easy even With Half My Brain Tied Behind My Back!
That's the result of a bad business model, declining demand for live sports on TV and "awful announcing" not politics.
The examples I provided are a combination of "awful announcing" and sportscasters entering the political arena as they broadcast sports! Just ask Musberger!
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So Fox's model is a bad business model, affected when 10 million people cut the cord over three years.
But ESPDisney's is straight up politics, not affected when those 10 million people cut the cord over three years. Despite the fact that ESPN is paying for rights to the NBA and Fox isn't, and they're both paying rights fees for MLB and the NFL.
But ESPDisney's is straight up politics, not affected when those 10 million people cut the cord over three years. Despite the fact that ESPN is paying for rights to the NBA and Fox isn't, and they're both paying rights fees for MLB and the NFL.
