Has TD_6082 Ever Posted a Pro Pitt Post?

[steel_curtain]

I think what DVY is saying is that the idea that we own VT is no longer valid now that they have a brand new coach-who happened to beat us in year 1.

And as for Evans jumping to the NFL after this season, RUFKM?

-He's listed as a top 10 Qb on Kiper's big board. The guy has vaulted up the rankings. If Evans stays in school, Kiper has him as a top 5 qb in the country in 2018. I told you guys, the acc has 5 of the best 10 qb's in the country. The kid trubisky of north carolina is now getting 1st round hype this year. The qb talent is going to get gutted this off season from the acc. Recheck the NFL boards.

 

[billyberoux]

You think Bama would struggle with our schedule? LMAO.

No, but the pedders would choke on it.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

He is a Penn State, Big Ten and James Franklin fan above anything...

He hangs out with "Dion Lewis" on the weekends.

I like their Posts they talk CFB and give and take on discussions, plus agree to disagree. I don't care what Fans they may be so long as they share their CFB Opinions and to be fair they do so with tolerance and candor and that is good enough for me. Pitt plays PSU again, if they can provide insight on the coming games, I welcome it.

 

[PittME75]

If you didn't know TD;;;;;;6082 was a nitter troll, then this is your first time on this board. He minimizes every Pitt accomplishment, denigrates their division, praises every PSU decision or result, constantly makes excuses for every St Penn setback or failure.
His endless derision of the coastal division is meant to trivialize Pitt's accomplishments,while his ardent defense of even the bottom dwellers in the BIG 13 1/2 is designed to glorify the CC in Pennsyltucky..
He insists that he is a Pitt fan and a realist. Every time he posts he proves that statement false. He is a liar.

This is correct, he clearly outed himself by mistake a while back. TD = Nitter Troll by his own admission.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I was thinking, if our fine, inbred cousins and us switched schedules, what would our records be?

 

[Panther Parrothead]

No, but the pedders would choke on it.

This kind of stuff is cyclical, but anyone (excluding the usual Big Ten shills) would agree that the ACC -- top to bottom -- is stronger than the Big Ten this year.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

yeah that dionlewis guy was definitely a troll, pretty sure some here identified him as a poster from BWI. But I don't think TD_nitter is a troll. Just a very strange Pitt fan who has a strong affinity for James Franklin. He explained before that he saw Frankiln first hand while living in Nashville and others I have known from Nashville all spoke highly of Franklin as well. So that would explain it to some extent, but to keep that blind loyalty to Franklin and transfer it over to Penn State and defend the program come hell or high water is very odd to say the least.

Lot of strange people on anonymous message boards.

 

[ncyajleel]

I just think he is honest. I've disagreed with him a few times, but I believe he is being realistic. I'm not sure how old he is, but for a lot of Pitt fans that have seen them great and then blow it for 30 years, it is hard not to think after the great Clemson win for one to say, "now how will they screw this up?"

I've seen a difference lately. I've been as frustrated as anyone this year but that is what happens when you lose games in overtime and on the last play. I still believe that Narduzzi is doing the right things and headed in the right direction, he is a good coach. But again, sometimes you ask how will they screw this up?

I think people's pride gets in the way too much, especially on this board because everyone thinks they are right and can't seem to admit when they are wrong.

 

[ncyajleel]

Pitt has had 9 coaches in the last 30 years, a new coach every 3.3 years. They have had 6 since 2000, one every 2.6 years. How the hell do you win with one coach every 2+ years?

One thing I keep asking myself is are we better in Narduzzi's second year than Holgersen and Franklin were in their second years? Especially when Chryst ignored the defensive side of the ball for two years.

I say yes, even with those losses. Holgersen was in the Big East his first year and did well, he did not do as well in his second year (B12) and did not get in a bowl his third year. He has been (10-3, 7-6, 4-8, 7-6, 8-5, and now 8-1).

Franklin has been (7-6, 7-6, and now 8-2), and his schedules have been weak in my opinion playing and OOC that includes UMASS, Army, UCF, Temple, Buffalo, San Diego State and all three years he has somehow dodged playing the BIG West's top two teams, so he has been lucky. Pitt has been competitive this year in all their losses except for Miami.

Let's face it, Narduzzi is no Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh, but how many coaches are? He IS a good coach and every time we get a coach we say give him time only that time never comes because the coach does not stay. Hopefully Pitt's administration will give THIS coach the time to win. You CANNOT win changing coaches every 3-4 years, you can't. So one last time, give him time. Hopefully the Pitt administration will.

Sorry dude, but if you aren't a little ticked about this past weekend went down, I question if you are really a Pitt fan. Elated, yes, but ticked too.

Let the reality sink in of what could have been and what is. Two wins against Top 10 teams, yet we can't even win a division where the winner might be a borderline Top 20 team.

Great win Saturday & it should and could have meant so much more than just 24 hours of great pub and a chance to impress the selection committee of the Sun/Armed Forces/Pinstripe Bowl.

But hey, PSU & WVU play an easier schedule and they are both overrated, so I should feel great we lost to VaTech, UNC,and Miami. After all, we're not ready to win the Coastal yet. (whatever that means)

 

[ncyajleel]

I think the ACC bottom is what does make the ACC stronger than the BIG. The BIG bottom can't beat anyone!

This kind of stuff is cyclical, but anyone (excluding the usual Big Ten shills) would agree that the ACC -- top to bottom -- is stronger than the Big Ten this year.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Pitt has had 9 coaches in the last 30 years, a new coach every 3.3 years. They have had 6 since 2000, one every 2.6 years. How the hell do you win with one coach every 2+ years?

One thing I keep asking myself is are we better in Narduzzi's second year than Holgersen and Franklin were in their second years? Especially when Chryst ignored the defensive side of the ball for two years.

I say yes, even with those losses. Holgersen was in the Big East his first year and did well, he did not do as well in his second year (B12) and did not get in a bowl his third year. He has been (10-3, 7-6, 4-8, 7-6, 8-5, and now 8-1).

Franklin has been (7-6, 7-6, and now 8-2), and his schedules have been weak in my opinion playing and OOC that includes UMASS, Army, UCF, Temple, Buffalo, San Diego State and all three years he has somehow dodged playing the BIG West's top two teams, so he has been lucky. Pitt has been competitive this year in all their losses except for Miami.

Let's face it, Narduzzi is no Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh, but how many coaches are? He IS a good coach and every time we get a coach we say give him time only that time never comes because the coach does not stay. Hopefully Pitt's administration will give THIS coach the time to win. You CANNOT win changing coaches every 3-4 years, you can't. So one last time, give him time. Hopefully the Pitt administration will.

I agree with you and Slick last few Posts.

Additionally, I have the same questions and wonder if a comparison can be made in light of all 3 Coaches & Programs. I am going to do an analysis of all 3 Coaches Career Wins against Ranked Teams and Signature wins against Signature Win Coaches at Vandy-PSU, WVU, and Pitt1!

This may shed some light how they will prevail in 2017 and beyond. I don't really know so why I am doing it! I am curious and will share that with the Lair Posters to make comments upon, agree, or disagree, and augment further analysis?

Would appreciate yours and all others comments when I post it?

 

[TD_6082]

I was thinking, if our fine, inbred cousins and us switched schedules, what would our records be?

If & buts... I find it ironic that several posters on here were talking about how they would never stand a chance to win their division because of Harbaugh, Meyer, and Dantonio... and now that isn't outside the realm of possibility.

I'm sorry, but VaTech, UNC, and Miami isn't exactly a murderers' row. We could have won the Coastal this year.

Going back over a decade, its absolutely amazing how we trip up and find ways not to win these things. That isn't just a Wanny thing. Pitt could have easily won the Big East under Octane or Chryst. It's maddening. It really is.

 

[TD_6082]

yeah that dionlewis guy was definitely a troll, pretty sure some here identified him as a poster from BWI. But I don't think TD_nitter is a troll. Just a very strange Pitt fan who has a strong affinity for James Franklin. He explained before that he saw Frankiln first hand while living in Nashville and others I have known from Nashville all spoke highly of Franklin as well. So that would explain it to some extent, but to keep that blind loyalty to Franklin and transfer it over to Penn State and defend the program come hell or high water is very odd to say the least.

Lot of strange people on anonymous message boards.

My wife taught at Vandy back in those days & I met Franklin on a couple of occasions. He asked if I was a Vandy fan... I told him that my college team was Pitt, and he went on and on about what a great program and tradition Pitt had and rolled off names etc. The man clearly knew his stuff.
He also did so many creative things to try to market Vandy football. Unless you really know the culture surrounding Vanderbilt football, it might be hard to appreciate what he did there.

So yeah, I hope Pitt hands them their ass the next 3 years, just like this year... and other than that, I hope they do well. I don't have to live with them, work with them, see them in the community like a lot of you do, so my condolences for all of you that do. I saw how obnoxious some of them can be in the week or two that followed the tOSU game.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"TD_6082, post: 1667812, member: 510"]If & buts... I find it ironic that several posters on here were talking about how they would never stand a chance to win their division because of Harbaugh, Meyer, and Dantonio... and now that isn't outside the realm of possibility.
Not really, it was stated the challenge for Franklin was to beat those Coaches and not just 1 or 2 times with a block kick??? If you think this will happen every year then you will have to wait for all us to see it??? Or are you saying Franklin right now will dominate Meyer and Harbaugh in 2017 and 2018?

Additionally, the Spread Offense even used elsewhere like Oregon has not won a National Title compared to the Pro Set at Bama, FSU, and OSU, so we shall see if that happens soon? It can win 10 to 11 games but Pro Sets depend more on all 11 Offensive Players more than 1 QB making the right calls and staying healthy and good DL's Defenses & LBs can blow it up?

Moreover, the inconsistent coaching is still there with Franklin as seen at Indiana was exactly a big win but loss by Indiana mistakes?

Furthermore, even you stated it was not going to happen until 2017 or 2018, did you not? So, you are saying it has arrived in 2016 was surprise to you? It was posted Moorhead Offense should show up about the 6th to 8th game and it did.

Now Beating Ferentz was a real win that even Paterno could not do that often and that caught my eye. Also, DC Pry has that PSU Defense playing great and got better all season even with injuries. These are notable events that have many thinking Franklin will Dominate The Big Ten not just the State? I can wait like you!

Finally, Franklin deserves an Extension for 2016 don't you think? This is a better sign they are confident he will be at Penn State a long time is it not?

I'm sorry, but VaTech, UNC, and Miami isn't exactly a murderers' row. We could have won the Coastal this year.
Well, they are better than Minnesota, Indiana, Maryland, Purdue, and Rutgers and all 3 ACC Teams were Ranked this year unlike those above??

Going back over a decade, its absolutely amazing how we trip up and find ways not to win these things. That isn't just a Wanny thing. Pitt could have easily won the Big East under Octane or Chryst. It's maddening. It really is.
This is correct and I might add......Pitt was not in a Power Income Conference until 2013 and still has no Program Resources that Holgrosen and Franklin have at WVU & PSU, that you fail to mention???

Let alone Oliver Luck & AD Joyner & Barbour are so much better than Pitt's Steve Pederson proved at Pitt and could not win even at a Top Ten Winning Nebraska Program?

It is also maddening you don't see those differences with WVU & PSU having Coaches in their 6th years with established Programs, unlike Narduzzi in his 2nd year in a Rebuilding Program along with less followers, fans, and boosters?

And why I see Narduzzi being a far better coach with a far better ACC Coastal than Big-12 and Big Ten East challenges and at Programs that demand 10 Wins every year year after this year????

The good news is both of us can wait and see how it all plays out between Franklin, Narduzzi and Holgrosen in 2016 and beyond.

Yet, right now you have to admit Narduzzi Win against Clemson was far better Win against a #2 last year and this year Clemson Talent and at Clemson all game long....compared to Franklin's blocked kicks against a OSU 76 Freshmen-Sophomore Team at Beaver Stadium?

I am sure you had some ifs and cramps watching PSU struggle at Indiana and then some Hiccups and Burps watching Pitt stay with Clemson? As Holgrosen is still waiting how WVU does against OU on Saturday to join Franklin & Narduzzi?

In fact, Narduzzi in his 2nd Year as Head Coach has a better Signature Win than Franklins or Holgrosen in their 6th Careers Wins? Does he not? I will do an Analysis later and look forward to your view too.

In the meantime, certainly, you are not saying PSU & WVU are better than Pitt by far when they played against far less Ranked Teams all year long? Plus, PITT beat PSU too?

I am very much looking forward to WVU playing against OU & Baylor, and Penn State playing against a badly weaken MSU and waiting for OSU-Michgan outcomes to determine if they play against Wisconsin?

Franklin by now should be able to beat MSU's Dantonio, stay with Wisky and any Bowl Teams too, Same with WVU and Pitt too!

We shall see?

 

[revampedpanthers]

If you truly want to be a playoff team during the playoff era, you do need to schedule tough because the overall picture will be looked at. Baylor and TCU got left out 2 years ago because of their schedule. Louisville will most likely be left out because of theirs. WVU as well. Unless total chaos ensues.

True unless you go 12-0 or win b10 or SEc you aren't guaranteed to get in the playoffs with a weak schedule. But Pitt isn't to the point that we have to worry about competing for a playoff spot. We could however use that extra win. I don't see the point of the OK ST series. They aren't going to draw much better than a regional mac team and they are much better. Pitt should be playing on OOC marque/ regional P5 opponent(psu,wvu, ND, Bama,OH ST, MI etc etc) two patsies and either another patsy or a low level P5 program, that is consistently below average. Basically we should insure we are 3-1 OOC and if we win the big game 4-0.

 

[steel_curtain]

True unless you go 12-0 or win b10 or SEc you aren't guaranteed to get in the playoffs with a weak schedule. But Pitt isn't to the point that we have to worry about competing for a playoff spot. We could however use that extra win. I don't see the point of the OK ST series. They aren't going to draw much better than a regional mac team and they are much better. Pitt should be playing on OOC marque/ regional P5 opponent(psu,wvu, ND, Bama,OH ST, MI etc etc) two patsies and either another patsy or a low level P5 program, that is consistently below average. Basically we should insure we are 3-1 OOC and if we win the big game 4-0.

-This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Exactly what Ive been saying. To play 2 Top 15 non conference teams every year is the dumbest scheduling ever by an AD

Look at this future scheduling

2017- Penn State and Oklahoma State, 2 almost guaranteed Top 10-15 teams
2018- Penn State and Notre Dame
2022- Tennessee and West Virginia
2023- Cincy, At West Virginia and At Tennessee- Total retard scheduling here, thats 3 good teams

-Dump Cincy, and if I had my choice dump Notre Dame. There is no need for this scheduling, why? Dumb, Dumb, Dumb

-We have two Top 10 wins this year, are unranked, and most people are bitching saying Clemson and Penn State are both overrated for losing to a 4 loss team. Playing Top 11 Oklahoma State on the road this year was a total failure. We'd be ranked in the Top 15 easily if we replaced them with a cupcake. But no, another game against a Top 10 road game. Dumb.

 

[TD_istheman]

well, 9100 post, only 500 likes, and 400 are likes from pitt poker and tdistheman... his alter agos

You are the boards biggest TARD, I'm guessing you all ready know this. I am just hoping recruiting picks up from this big win.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

My wife taught at Vandy back in those days & I met Franklin on a couple of occasions. He asked if I was a Vandy fan... I told him that my college team was Pitt, and he went on and on about what a great program and tradition Pitt had and rolled off names etc. The man clearly knew his stuff.
He also did so many creative things to try to market Vandy football. Unless you really know the culture surrounding Vanderbilt football, it might be hard to appreciate what he did there.

So yeah, I hope Pitt hands them their ass the next 3 years, just like this year... and other than that, I hope they do well. I don't have to live with them, work with them, see them in the community like a lot of you do, so my condolences for all of you that do. I saw how obnoxious some of them can be in the week or two that followed the tOSU game.

I agree with you, James is a fantastic outstanding Father, Husband, and Person. When he was introduced I posted he will be tough to recruit against and could be a Great coach at PSU much to the chagrin and attacks of many Pitt Posters some saying I was just dumb and wrong and others showing Franklin did good but not great at Vandy.

I then watched him do a great job in recruiting in his 1st & 2nd years, and met him myself and no one can say he is not a great man to meet or greet.

However, that was before Harbaugh got the job at Michigan and Narduzzi at Pitt! I knew Harbaugh would be a great Coach right away and I said to Baby2 JH would win 10 games and he did. I met JH and his Brother once when his Dad was at Pitt. Harbaugh Brother's just beats Tomlin and I see that happening to Franklin too. On Narduzzi I had to see all of last year and this year, but now have no doubt he is a better Coach than Franklin and that was before the Clemson game.

After watching Franklin on the sidelines and other aspects I just don't see him beating Meyers, Harbaugh more often than they will beat him. I believe Franklin will win every 3 or 4th years, but not even steven, we shall see?

I am impressed how he beat Ferentz and expect he will beat Dantonio this year. Then onto Narduzzi again, then Fitzgerald, Riley, Harbaugh, Dantonio, Ferentz, and Meyers again and next year in 2018 add Chryst or maybe this year if PSU gets into the BIG Ten Champ Game? Also, Maryland, Rutgers, and Indiana are doing better by next year too with improved recruiting.

There can be no excuses after 2017 or 2018 for sure, but I still think Franklin is a Good Coach. Just has not proved he is a Very Good Coach at Penn State and we shall see if he can win 10+ Games there in more years, not just one year?

One has to admit he had to go back on many things he said and he has made many excuses, but now he has to please a Fan Base that wins 10 Games is Great, but can he do it every year against OSU, UM, MSU, RU, IU, and UMD???

I just don't think JF is great fit for Penn State and neither does many PSU fans, even today I talk to them, and they smile where PSU Winning in the Top 10 & 25 again, but few tell me they are sure he can do every year and also doubt him? They are unsure right now, many tell me they wish they had Narduzzi?

Penn State Fans & Alumni demand 10 Wins every year and they provide all the money, support, and whiteouts for any coach to do it, and if JF does not do it, they will find someone that can do it?

If Franklin goes 12-2 or higher this year that will be impressive and deserves an Extension! If 10-3 still impressive too. Anything less like 9-4 still good but will wait until 2017 then too?

Harbaugh will be rebuilding Michigan like Meyer's is rebuilding Ohio State this year? If Franklin beats both Meyers and Harbaugh next year I will admit i am wrong, and even if he doesn't but wins 10 game again that may change my mind.

We shall see?

 

[TD_istheman]

This is correct, he clearly outed himself by mistake a while back. TD = Nitter Troll by his own admission.

You want to bet , why don't you ask Spirt and Bethlehem John who TD is, they tailgate with him for years! Does Pitt just give degrees out in cracker jack boxes these days. Good lord

 

[TD_istheman]

I agree with you, James is a fantastic outstanding Father, Husband, and Person. When he was introduced I posted he will be tough to recruit against and could be a Great coach at PSU much to the chagrin and attacks of many Pitt Posters some saying I was just dumb and wrong and others showing Franklin did good but not great at Vandy.

I then watched him do a great job in recruiting in his 1st & 2nd years, and met him myself and no one can say he is not a great man to meet or greet.

However, that was before Harbaugh got the job at Michigan and Narduzzi at Pitt! I knew Harbaugh would be a great Coach right away and said he would 10 games and he did. I met him and his Brother once when his Dad was at Pitt. Harbaugh Brother's just beats Tomlin and I see that happening to Franklin too. On Narduzzi I had to see all of last year and this year, but now iI have no doubt he is a better Coach than Franklin and that was before the Clemson game.

After watching Franklin on the sidelines and other aspects I jsut don't se him beating Meyers, Harbaugh more often than they will beat him. I believe Franklin will win every 3 or 4th years, but not even steven, we shall see?

I am impressed how he beat Ferentz and expect he will beat Dantonio this year. Then onto Narduzzi again, then Fitzgerald, Riley, Harbaugh, Dantonio, Ferentz, and Meyers again and next year Chryst or maybe this year if PSU gets into the BIG Ten Champ Game? Also, Maryland, Rutegrs, and Indiana are all should be doing better by next year too.

There can be no excuses after 2017 or 2018 for sure, but I still think Franklin is a Good Coach and has not proved he is a Very Good Coach at Penn State and we shall see if he can win 10+ Games there? One has to admit he had to go back on many things he said and he has made many excuses, but now he has to please a Fan Base that wins 10 Games this is Great, but can he do it every year against OSU, UM, MSU, RU, IU, and UMD???

I just don't think JF is great fit for Penn State and neither does many PSu fans, even today I talk to them, and they smile where PSU Winning in the Top 10 & 25 again, but few tell me they are sure he can do every year and also doubt him?

Penn State Fans & Alumni demand 10 Wins every year and they provide all the money, support, and whiteouts for any coach to do it, and if JF does not do it, they will find someone that can do it?

If Franklin goes 12-2 or higher this year that will be impressive and deserves an Extension! If 10-3 still impressive too. Anything less like 9-4 still good but will wait until 2017 then too?

Harbaugh will be rebuilding Michigan like Meyer's is rebuilding Ohio State this year? If Franklin beats both Meyers and Harbaugh next year I will admit i am wrong, and even if he doesn't but wins 10 game again that may change my mind.

We shall see?

I don't think he is a good fit there either.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I don't think he is a good fit there either.

It is not just a guess or just a Hunch, it is what Penn State Former Players & Booster Alumni tell me, but it also what I see on the sidelines. I see more inconsistent winning and losing there unlike I see at Ohio State, Michigan and Pitt? JF has more Blowouts Losses and just barely gets by Teams he should blow out too? Meyers & Harbaugh losses are in single digits is my point?

I agree with TD-82 wait until 2017-18, but why wait on an Extension if he is so good now????

I think JF is a good Rebuilding the Program Coach like he did at Vandy and would have been good for Pitt too, but not beyond 4 to 5 years. I see him as another Charlie Strong not a good fit at Texas and maybe Kelly at ND now too! They expect NCS there not just 10 Wins?

I see him like another WSU Leach, OKSU Gundy, and NW Fitzgerald!

Also, see it as I saw Steve Pederson a Graet Rebuilding Athletic Director but no way very good for a Top 25 Program and SP proved he could rebuild Pitt Football into a Winner again around .520% to .540%, but could not even maintain a Top 25 Program after 5 years at Nebraska and in fact lower them downward. SP could not cut it on a higher level and maybe JF too, we shall see?

 

[TD_6082]

There are a lot of good coaches out there. The thing that separates the elite coaches from the good ones is recruiting. Elite coaches recruit elite talent and they stack their roster so that they can deal with the massive turnover that exists in college football and still not take a big step back.

I don't Franklin is in the class of Meyer or Harbaugh. After those two, I think he will be as good or better than anybody in the Big 10.

 

[TD_6082]

It is not just a guess or just a Hunch, it is what Penn State Former Players & Booster Alumni tell me, but it also what I see on the sidelines. I see more inconsistent winning and losing there unlike I see at Ohio State, Michigan and Pitt? JF has more Blowouts Losses and just barely gets by Teams he should blow out too? Meyers & Harbaugh losses are in single digits is my point?

I agree with TD-82 wait until 2017-18, but why wait on an Extension if he is so good now????

I think JF is a good Rebuilding the Program Coach like he did at Vandy and would have been good for Pitt too, but not beyond 4 to 5 years. I see him as another Charlie Strong not a good fit at Texas and maybe Keely at ND now too!

I see him like another WSU Leach, OKSU Gundy, and NW Fitzgerald!

If you are already comparing to Harbaugh & Meyer, he's doing a damn good job.

You have a sentence there about inconsistent winning and losing. You lumped Pitt in with Michigan & Ohio State as an example of consistency???

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

If you are already comparing to Harbaugh & Meyer, he's doing a damn good job.

You have a sentence there about inconsistent winning and losing. You lumped Pitt in with Michigan & Ohio State as an example of consistency???

This is what my Analysis will be about. Look at Franklin's Record as new Coach at Vandy and his Games at PSU. Will compare that to Holgrosen and Narduzzi too! Narduzzi has many close wins and losses and will compared that with Franklin at Vandy & PSU?

Like this year, I see Franklin with Two Coaching Signature Wins:
Meyers
Ferentz
Pending Dantonio
Signature Losses:
Harbaugh
Narduzzi

Ranked Team Wins:
Ohio State
(Iowa Previous Ranked)
Ranked Teams Losses
Michigan
(MSU Previous Ranked)

Narduzzi Coaching Signature Wins
Franklin
Swinney
Mendenhall
Johnson
Pending Cutcliffe
Narduzzi Coaching Signature Losses
Fedora
Richt
Fuente
Gundy

Ranked Team Wins:
Penn State
Clemson
Ranked Team Losses;
OKSU
UNC
(VT, Miami Previous Ranked)

Games Won 7 Or Less Points
Games Loss 7 or Less Points
Games Blowout Wins 20 or More Points
Games Blowouts Losses 20 or More Points

Harbaugh and Meyers has far fewer and clearly far more wins but they were coaches at other Programs and NFL.

i compare Apples to Apples by Years to view and judge future Coaching success, and my analysis will be fair based on game results and against Subjective Coaching Ratings that you may or may not agree, nor being wrong, I can admit either.

I only care about a fair analysis that may provide insightful comparison that may or may not be used to to predict future success for all 3 Coaches at PSU, WVU & PITT? I welcome your own insights and comments and looking forward to them as well and disagreeing is fine too.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

-This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Exactly what Ive been saying. To play 2 Top 15 non conference teams every year is the dumbest scheduling ever by an AD

Look at this future scheduling

2017- Penn State and Oklahoma State, 2 almost guaranteed Top 10-15 teams
2018- Penn State and Notre Dame
2022- Tennessee and West Virginia
2023- Cincy, At West Virginia and At Tennessee- Total retard scheduling here, thats 3 good teams

-Dump Cincy, and if I had my choice dump Notre Dame. There is no need for this scheduling, why? Dumb, Dumb, Dumb

-We have two Top 10 wins this year, are unranked, and most people are bitching saying Clemson and Penn State are both overrated for losing to a 4 loss team. Playing Top 11 Oklahoma State on the road this year was a total failure. We'd be ranked in the Top 15 easily if we replaced them with a cupcake. But no, another game against a Top 10 road game. Dumb.

Let me make sure I have this right: You want to drop Notre Dame from our schedule because it makes it too challenging - and presumably hurts our playoff chances?

Follow-up question: are you phucking insane?

 

[thebadby2]

My wife taught at Vandy back in those days & I met Franklin on a couple of occasions. He asked if I was a Vandy fan... I told him that my college team was Pitt, and he went on and on about what a great program and tradition Pitt had and rolled off names etc. The man clearly knew his stuff.
He also did so many creative things to try to market Vandy football. Unless you really know the culture surrounding Vanderbilt football, it might be hard to appreciate what he did there.

So yeah, I hope Pitt hands them their ass the next 3 years, just like this year... and other than that, I hope they do well. I don't have to live with them, work with them, see them in the community like a lot of you do, so my condolences for all of you that do. I saw how obnoxious some of them can be in the week or two that followed the tOSU game.

The question is did you meet Franklin at Robert's Western World while enjoying a fried bologna sandwich and watching the Brazilbillies?

Nashville = great town.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

If & buts... I find it ironic that several posters on here were talking about how they would never stand a chance to win their division because of Harbaugh, Meyer, and Dantonio... and now that isn't outside the realm of possibility.

I'm sorry, but VaTech, UNC, and Miami isn't exactly a murderers' row. We could have won the Coastal this year.

Going back over a decade, its absolutely amazing how we trip up and find ways not to win these things. That isn't just a Wanny thing. Pitt could have easily won the Big East under Octane or Chryst. It's maddening. It really is.

35 years TD. 35 years. We have been doing this. Taking one step forward, 2 steps back. You know I am no pollyanna. One thing I can give PSU credit for, is they took that upset over tOSU and fell into an easy schedule, and have yet to screw it up.
We have seen Pitt beat ND on national TV to go 9-1, and then lose to WVU and Cincy our next 2 games.

 

[steel_curtain]

Let me make sure I have this right: You want to drop Notre Dame from our schedule because it makes it too challenging - and presumably hurts our playoff chances?

Follow-up question: are you phucking insane?

-Im assuming Notre Dame will actually get their ass in gear and be good again. I dont expect them to continue to suck, although I hope they are the worst team in all of football with Kelly running the show.

-Yea, and if we keep playing 5 ranked teams per year, you can forget about winning 10 games yearly and you can forget about the playoff for good. As I see it, Pitt is the only team braindead enough to want to schedule Two Top 15 non conference opponents every single year. No other team in college football is doing this. Not 1 team from any conference is this friggin stupid to schedule TWO top 15 teams in the non conference yearly. It is jackass scheduling by Pitt.

 

[ncyajleel]

Actually you don't even have to win the BIG or SEC.

True unless you go 12-0 or win b10 or SEc you aren't guaranteed to get in the playoffs with a weak schedule. But Pitt isn't to the point that we have to worry about competing for a playoff spot. We could however use that extra win. I don't see the point of the OK ST series. They aren't going to draw much better than a regional mac team and they are much better. Pitt should be playing on OOC marque/ regional P5 opponent(psu,wvu, ND, Bama,OH ST, MI etc etc) two patsies and either another patsy or a low level P5 program, that is consistently below average. Basically we should insure we are 3-1 OOC and if we win the big game 4-0.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

-Im assuming Notre Dame will actually get their ass in gear and be good again. I dont expect them to continue to suck, although I hope they are the worst team in all of football with Kelly running the show.

-Yea, and if we keep playing 5 ranked teams per year, you can forget about winning 10 games yearly and you can forget about the playoff for good. As I see it, Pitt is the only team braindead enough to want to schedule Two Top 15 non conference opponents every single year. No other team in college football is doing this. Not 1 team from any conference is this friggin stupid to schedule TWO top 15 teams in the non conference yearly. It is jackass scheduling by Pitt.

I think we're just on totally different pages here.

We obviously have completely different ideas of where Pitt is as a program and what our priorities should be.

Personally, I think you're missing the forest for the trees. We still have to sell tickets and you don't accomplish that by replacing Notre Dame with Middle Tennessee State, or even Iowa State.

That could potentially help our college football playoff chances but it hurts us in every other way.

Again, I agree that it is important to avoid over scheduling. However, nobody could have known that Oklahoma State and Penn State would be this good; or that Iowa would have their best season in the last 40 years last year.

Pitt needs to sell tickets and raise its profile locally. The three opponents that have consistently proven themselves capable of helping us do that are Penn State, Notre Dame and West Virginia.

As such, I would like to play all of those teams as often as possible – irrespective of what it does to our strength of our schedule or our playoff chances.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I realize that answer sounds patronizing but that's not how I intended it. I'm just trying to be honest.

I often tell people that for the most part I hate movies. People always look at me incredulously like, "How can you hate movies?"

It's just because there's so many bad movies that aren't worth the two + hour investment. If it's a really good movie, then of course it's worth it.

However, particularly with comedies, most of them just aren't very funny, so I would rather watch sports, or televised news, or clean my garage, or do my taxes, or wash my hair, or do anything other than sit through some lame-ass movie.

 

[steel_curtain]

I think we're just on totally different pages here.

We obviously have completely different ideas of where Pitt is as a program and what our priorities should be.

Personally, I think you're missing the forest for the trees. We still have to sell tickets and you don't accomplish that by replacing Notre Dame with Middle Tennessee State, or even Iowa State.

That could potentially help our college football playoff chances but it hurts us in every other way.

Again, I agree that it is important to avoid over scheduling. However, nobody could have known that Oklahoma State and Penn State would be this good; or that Iowa would have their best season in the last 40 years last year.

Pitt needs to sell tickets and raise its profile locally. The three opponents that have consistently proven themselves capable of helping us do that are Penn State, Notre Dame and West Virginia.

As such, I would like to play all of those teams as often as possible – irrespective of what it does to our strength of our schedule or our playoff chances.

-You dont think winning 10 games per year and having a poll ranking in the Top 10 per year would raise attendance? People support winners that compete, not teams that are 6-4 and out of the polls. Which team, as a fan, looks better to you to watch a game next week against Duke? A team that is ranked in the Top 15 with a 7-3 record? Or a team that is 6-4 and is no where to be found in any type of poll? Which team, as a Coach, is easier to sell a recruit. A team that finished 10-3 and in the Top 10, or a team that is 9-4 and at the bottom of the Top 25 at best.

-Baylor, Wisconsin, TCU, Louisville these types of teams used to beat up on garbage yearly, they arent past powerhouses. Baylor still does. But guess what, when they are 8-0 and pushing for a Top 5 ranking, everyone is fighting for tickets for the next big game. Winning will raise attendance and bring better players by the coach selling a rising program. Killing yourself with over scheduling accomplishes nothing except racking up losses by over challenging a team. Like I said, no other team in D1 even tries this strategy. Schedule Notre Dame and Indiana. Penn State and Rutgers. West Virginia and Vanderbilt. Not 2 teams competing for conference championships in the same year.

 

[steel_curtain]

-You dont think winning 10 games per year and having a poll ranking in the Top 10 per year would raise attendance? People support winners that compete, not teams that are 6-4 and out of the polls. Which team, as a fan, looks better to you to watch a game next week against Duke? A team that is ranked in the Top 15 with a 7-3 record? Or a team that is 6-4 and is no where to be found in any type of poll? Which team, as a Coach, is easier to sell a recruit. A team that finished 10-3 and in the Top 10, or a team that is 9-4 and at the bottom of the Top 25 at best.

-Baylor, Wisconsin, TCU, Louisville these types of teams used to beat up on garbage yearly, they arent past powerhouses. Baylor still does. But guess what, when they are 8-0 and pushing for a Top 5 ranking, everyone is fighting for tickets for the next big game. Winning will raise attendance and bring better players by the coach selling a rising program. Killing yourself with over scheduling accomplishes nothing except racking up losses by over challenging a team. Like I said, no other team in D1 even tries this strategy. Schedule Notre Dame and Indiana. Penn State and Rutgers. West Virginia and Vanderbilt. Not 2 teams competing for conference championships in the same year.

-Do you realize that this season Pitt could potentially have played the Big Ten, Big 12, and ACC Champion all in the regular season? That is nuts.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I think that's a false choice. We can schedule opponents the locals care about and still win.

As for the spirit of your question, no, Pitt cannot schedule a bunch of cupcakes and expect to draw big crowds. For Pitt to consistently draw large crowds, we have to play good programs that the locals respect, AND we have to consistently win. It cannot be one or the other like it is in a lot of other "red state" markets.

That's just reality for a "minor-league" team in a major league market like a Waco, or a Madison, or a Louisville.

It's all academic anyway.

Notre Dame has a long-term scheduling agreement with the ACC which basically guarantees we are only going to play them sporadically going forward.

Also, it is clear that Penn State is not interested in a long-term home-and-home series and I don't see that changing anytime soon either.

Therefore, we are basically talking about an annual game versus West Virginia and that absolutely needs to happen – even if it harms our ability to make the college football playoff.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

-Do you realize that this season Pitt could potentially have played the Big Ten, Big 12, and ACC Champion all in the regular season? That is nuts.

I think you just quoted yourself. That's an unorthodox move – but I dig it.

 

[steel_curtain]

I think that's a false choice. We can schedule opponents the locals care about and still win.

As for the spirit of your question, no, Pitt cannot schedule a bunch of cupcakes and expect to draw big crowds. For Pitt to consistently draw large crowds, we have to play good programs that the locals respect, AND we have to consistently win. It cannot be one or the other like it is in a lot of other "red state" markets.

That's just reality for a "minor-league" team in a major league market like a Waco, or a Madison, or a Louisville.

It's all academic anyway.

Notre Dame has a long-term scheduling agreement with the ACC which basically guarantees we are only going to play them sporadically going forward.

Also, it is clear that Penn State is not interested in a long-term home-and-home series and I don't see that changing anytime soon either.

Therefore, we are basically talking about an annual game versus West Virginia and that absolutely needs to happen – even if it harms our ability to make the college football playoff.

-Locals care about winning. Every recruit we are in a dogfight with says the same thing. I want to try and compete for a Conference Title or National Title and I want to win. Donovan Jeter walked and went to Michigan. Here is Michigan's non conference schedule the next 3 years.

2016- Hawaii, Central Florida, Colorado
2017- Florida, Cincy, Air Force
2018- Notre Dame, SMU, Army

Here is Penn State

2016- Kent State, Temple, Pitt
2017- Akron, Georgia State, Pitt
2018- App State, Kent State, Pitt

Here is West Virginia

2016- Mizzou, BYU, Youngstown State
2017- East Carolina, Delaware State, Virginia Tech
2018- Youngstown State, Tennessee, N.C. State

Here is Virginia Tech

2017- West Virginia, Delaware, East Carolina, Old Dominion
2018- William and Mary, East Carolina, Old Dominion, Notre Dame
2019- Notre Dame, Furman, Old Dominion, East Carolina

Here is Louisville

2016- Charlotte, Kentucky, Marshall, Houston
2017- Purdue, Kent State, Murray State, Kentucky
2018- Alabama, Indiana State, West Kentucky, Kentucky
2019- Notre Dame, East Kentucky, West Kentucky, Kentucky


-Do you notice a trend? No team from any of these conference is double dipping and loading the non conference schedule with 2 preseason Top 15 type teams that could compete for a Conference Title. No one is that frigging stupid except our last AD at Pitt. Only Pitt wants to stack the schedule with Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Tennessee, etc... For what? To have a 6-4 record and not raise our reputation? People remember 10 win seasons, not 6-4 records with no poll ranking.

-Pitt beat 2 Top 10 teams this year. Thats better than over 120+ teams in college football and only 2 other teams in the country can say the same thing We dont even have a Top 25 ranking to show for it. And for loading the schedule for what? No one gives a rats ass about the schedule, they want the poll ranking respect and National Respect with a great win loss record.

-Penn State beat 1 great team this year and might make the playoff. Do you see anyone else scheduling like us? Our 2023 schedule is asinine, thats potentially 3 ranked teams preseason all in the non conference.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I think that's a false choice. We can schedule opponents the locals care about and still win.

As for the spirit of your question, no, Pitt cannot schedule a bunch of cupcakes and expect to draw big crowds. For Pitt to consistently draw large crowds, we have to play good programs that the locals respect, AND we have to consistently win. It cannot be one or the other like it is in a lot of other "red state" markets.

That's just reality for a "minor-league" team in a major league market like a Waco, or a Madison, or a Louisville.

It's all academic anyway.

Notre Dame has a long-term scheduling agreement with the ACC which basically guarantees we are only going to play them sporadically going forward.

Also, it is clear that Penn State is not interested in a long-term home-and-home series and I don't see that changing anytime soon either.

Therefore, we are basically talking about an annual game versus West Virginia and that absolutely needs to happen – even if it harms our ability to make the college football playoff.

I'll take Notre Dame, Penn State and West Virgnia every year with ACC Teams! Recruits would love to play them too at Pitt! Three Sell Out Every Other Year Guaranteed!

 

[JokePa]

You are the boards biggest TARD, I'm guessing you all ready know this. I am just hoping recruiting picks up from this big win.

yeah.... 'tard'... pretty classy as usual from you. If I had the least bit insecurity about my intelligence maybe I would be insulted... or if the insult came from someone with the least been of intelligence.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

-Locals care about winning. Every recruit we are in a dogfight with says the same thing. I want to try and compete for a Conference Title or National Title and I want to win. Donovan Jeter walked and went to Michigan. Here is Michigan's non conference schedule the next 3 years.

2016- Hawaii, Central Florida, Colorado
2017- Florida, Cincy, Air Force
2018- Notre Dame, SMU, Army

Here is Penn State

2016- Kent State, Temple, Pitt
2017- Akron, Georgia State, Pitt
2018- App State, Kent State, Pitt

Here is West Virginia

2016- Mizzou, BYU, Youngstown State
2017- East Carolina, Delaware State, Virginia Tech
2018- Youngstown State, Tennessee, N.C. State

Here is Virginia Tech

2017- West Virginia, Delaware, East Carolina, Old Dominion
2018- William and Mary, East Carolina, Old Dominion, Notre Dame
2019- Notre Dame, Furman, Old Dominion, East Carolina

Here is Louisville

2016- Charlotte, Kentucky, Marshall, Houston
2017- Purdue, Kent State, Murray State, Kentucky
2018- Alabama, Indiana State, West Kentucky, Kentucky
2019- Notre Dame, East Kentucky, West Kentucky, Kentucky


-Do you notice a trend? No team from any of these conference is double dipping and loading the non conference schedule with 2 preseason Top 15 type teams that could compete for a Conference Title. No one is that frigging stupid except our last AD at Pitt. Only Pitt wants to stack the schedule with Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Tennessee, etc... For what? To have a 6-4 record and not raise our reputation? People remember 10 win seasons, not 6-4 records with no poll ranking.

-Pitt beat 2 Top 10 teams this year. Thats better than over 120+ teams in college football and only 2 other teams in the country can say the same thing We dont even have a Top 25 ranking to show for it. And for loading the schedule for what? No one gives a rats ass about the schedule, they want the poll ranking respect and National Respect with a great win loss record.

-Penn State beat 1 great team this year and might make the playoff. Do you see anyone else scheduling like us? Our 2023 schedule is asinine, thats potentially 3 ranked teams preseason all in the non conference.

Notice another trend? None of those other programs have problems getting over 50,000 souls to come watch them play football.

 

[Jpripper88]

Let me make sure I have this right: You want to drop Notre Dame from our schedule because it makes it too challenging - and presumably hurts our playoff chances?

Follow-up question: are you phucking insane?

We need to stack wins, not play a difficult schedule. Play the Girl Scouts of America 4 times, if they all count towards bowl eligibility. Get to 9 and 10 wins consistently. Then start worrying about scheduling challenging opponents.