Heinz Field defenders are comical

[PittMiamiRivalry]

Seventeen years and the same debate is going on...no, it's actually intensified as the stupidity of Pederson and Nordenberg continues to resonate. Pitt football at Heinz just confirms how unimportant Pitt football is to the Nitters who run politics and the Pitt board, the Steelers who will always own the stadium in spirit and fan support, and the football fans who choose food options, booze, and comfort over playing football on campus in a college stadium.

The problem for the Heinz lovers is their numbers aren't increasing. Attitudes have hardened.

How do these pampered fans handle Navy's stadium or, for that matter, most all the away stadiums Pitt encounters?

Sorry Heinz defenders - the argument against Heinz isn't going away, hasn't gone away and will never go away. Pitt can build a home stadium if it put football anywhere near the top of its priorities. It doesn't. It won't even look at ways to finance it and it is one of the richest universities in the country.

 

[jtownknowitall]

Pitt is in the ACC, a power 5 football conference. Building a smaller on campus stadium will do absolutely nothing to improve the football team.

 

[Burgh15]

No one who wants a football stadium on campus has offered a practical solution, most importantly being a location to put the stadium. FYI, tearing down the Pete is not a realistic solution.

 

[TD_istheman]

No one who wants a football stadium on campus has offered a practical solution, most importantly being a location to put the stadium. FYI, tearing down the Pete is not a realistic solution.

The last article part 3, did you read it ????? SOLUTIONS, YOU CHOOSE not to accept and that is your right

 

[TD_istheman]

Pitt is in the ACC, a power 5 football conference. Building a smaller on campus stadium will do absolutely nothing to improve the football team.

It will improve the current students game day experience, and that might have some as future fanatics

 

[Spindler]

I've suggested it in the past, why not buy CMU's football facility, expand to 45,000 , allow CMU to use it . They have a 700 car parking garage, we can shuttle fans from the Pitt campus. Have picnic tailgating on the lawn of the Cathedral. This plan would allow alums to reconnect with the Pitt campus before and after every home game. An athletic joint venture with CMU.

 

[pittman71]

Pitt is in the ACC, a power 5 football conference. Building a smaller on campus stadium will do absolutely nothing to improve the football team.

it would improve the atmosphere on gameday however

 

[jtownknowitall]

It will improve the current students game day experience, and that might have some as future fanatics

Today’s students weren’t raised to be spectators. If they aren’t starting, they aren’t departing. If they weren’t good enough to play one sport they found another sport or activity. They didn’t sit and watch. Most students today are students first. Most don’t care about football

 

[KanePA]

I've suggested it in the past, why not buy CMU's football facility, expand to 45,000 , allow CMU to use it . They have a 700 car parking garage, we can shuttle fans from the Pitt campus. Have picnic tailgating on the lawn of the Cathedral. This plan would allow alums to reconnect with the Pitt campus before and after every home game. An athletic joint venture with CMU.

This is a good solution. It’s one of 10. Just because people dismiss an idea, doesn’t make it a bad idea.

 

[OriginalEther]

Yawn
Said this before....ive been to games at Notre Dame, Nebraska, Michigan St, Navy, Louisville, and Ohio. The only stadium I’m remotely envious of is Navy’s
Fans make the atmosphere. The same fans who sit on their hands at Pitt games are probably the same ones who thought Dixon winning 25 games a year wasn’t good enough.

 

[pittmeister]

Contraire! The on campus crowd crack me up.

1. They have no viable plan for a campus stadium. None.
2. The average attendance has increased since Pitt moved to Heinz Field, not decreased.
3. Our attendance has always been pitiful at Pitt Stadium. Yet, they want to move back to Oakland where there is less accessibility for the causal fan.

Give us a viable option before you make fun of the detractors.

 

[pittman71]

Contraire! The on campus crowd crack me up.

1. They have no viable plan for a campus stadium. None.
2. The average attendance has increased since Pitt moved to Heinz Field, not decreased.
3. Our attendance has always been pitiful at Pitt Stadium. Yet, they want to move back to Oakland where there is less accessibility for the causal fan.

Give us a viable option before you make fun of the detractors.

1) I have seen plenty of viable plans
2) Nobody actually takes the attendance figures given by Pitt for attendance at Heinz Field seriously.
3) The casual fan doesn't seem too interested in going to Heinz Field either

 

[HailToPitt725]

Contraire! The on campus crowd crack me up.

1. They have no viable plan for a campus stadium. None.
2. The average attendance has increased since Pitt moved to Heinz Field, not decreased.
3. Our attendance has always been pitiful at Pitt Stadium. Yet, they want to move back to Oakland where there is less accessibility for the causal fan.

Give us a viable option before you make fun of the detractors.

1. The article literally mentions one of the only viable options for an on-campus stadium. There's been other proposals on here that would be a possibility as well if they ever actually looked into it.

2. This is because 1) the quality than the stone age teams of the 90s and 2) the stadium holds 70,000. Of course the numbers are going to be inflated when you can fit more into the stadium for PSU/WVU/ND etc. If Pitt Stadium held 69,000 for its entirety than the numbers wouldn't be far off at all.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Seventeen years and the same debate is going on...no, it's actually intensified as the stupidity of Pederson and Nordenberg continues to resonate. Pitt football at Heinz just confirms how unimportant Pitt football is to the Nitters who run politics and the Pitt board, the Steelers who will always own the stadium in spirit and fan support, and the football fans who choose food options, booze, and comfort over playing football on campus in a college stadium.

The problem for the Heinz lovers is their numbers aren't increasing. Attitudes have hardened.

How do these pampered fans handle Navy's stadium or, for that matter, most all the away stadiums Pitt encounters?

Sorry Heinz defenders - the argument against Heinz isn't going away, hasn't gone away and will never go away. Pitt can build a home stadium if it put football anywhere near the top of its priorities. It doesn't. It won't even look at ways to finance it and it is one of the richest universities in the country.

I loved Pitt stadium. Have portraits in my office. But that ship has sailed. I would rather spend the money on top flight coaches and lobbying to extend the T and close bigelow

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

No one who wants a football stadium on campus has offered a practical solution, most importantly being a location to put the stadium. FYI, tearing down the Pete is not a realistic solution.

I have offered many. You buy up land/buildings, knock them down and build. Total project cost = $500 million

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I've suggested it in the past, why not buy CMU's football facility, expand to 45,000 , allow CMU to use it . They have a 700 car parking garage, we can shuttle fans from the Pitt campus. Have picnic tailgating on the lawn of the Cathedral. This plan would allow alums to reconnect with the Pitt campus before and after every home game. An athletic joint venture with CMU.

This is a good solution. It’s one of 10. Just because people dismiss an idea, doesn’t make it a bad idea.

CMU wouldn't want a 45K seat stadium in the center of their campus. A better solution would be a joint 45K Pitt/CMU stadium at the top of Flagstaff Hill next to the CMU campus.

Tepper Stadium

Maybe it enables CMU to move up to the Patriot League.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Yawn
Said this before....ive been to games at Notre Dame, Nebraska, Michigan St, Navy, Louisville, and Ohio. The only stadium I’m remotely envious of is Navy’s
Fans make the atmosphere. The same fans who sit on their hands at Pitt games are probably the same ones who thought Dixon winning 25 games a year wasn’t good enough.

I have been to many college stadiums. They are all extreme dumps. Heinz is a Taj Mahal compared to them but it doesn't matter. Those dumps, with their bleacher seats and 1 bathroom per 20K people are filled and the atmosphere is off the charts....and recruits like it. Recruits dont care about what craft beer options there are and how many club seats a stadium has. They want to see a full stadium with energy. 30K in a 70K seat stadiuk sucks so bad

 

[HailToPitt725]

CMU wouldn't want a 45K seat stadium in the center of their campus. A better solution would be a joint 45K Pitt/CMU stadium at the top of Flagstaff Hill next to the CMU campus.

Tepper Stadium

Maybe it enables CMU to move up to the Patriot League.

I don't know if there's any room to expand it to 45,000 anyways, with all the buildings surrounding it. You'd have to bring the seats right up to the field. Besides, do you think CMU would be down with moving up to D1?

But a stadium on Flagstaff Hill... that's a proposal I haven't heard in a couple years.

 

[KanePA]

Contraire! The on campus crowd crack me up.

1. They have no viable plan for a campus stadium. None.
2. The average attendance has increased since Pitt moved to Heinz Field, not decreased.
3. Our attendance has always been pitiful at Pitt Stadium. Yet, they want to move back to Oakland where there is less accessibility for the causal fan.

Give us a viable option before you make fun of the detractors.

There are many viable plans from people 4746482 billion times smarter than you.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

CMU wouldn't want a 45K seat stadium in the center of their campus. A better solution would be a joint 45K Pitt/CMU stadium at the top of Flagstaff Hill next to the CMU campus.

Tepper Stadium

Maybe it enables CMU to move up to the Patriot League.

I don't know if there's any room to expand it to 45,000 anyways, with all the buildings surrounding it. You'd have to bring the seats right up to the field. Besides, do you think CMU would be down with moving up to D1?

But a stadium on Flagstaff Hill... that's a proposal I haven't heard in a couple years.

There's probably 10 different places it can go. All involve some type of land/building purchase.....except the OC lot but at the top of the hill, that has to be a last resort.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

They can’t afford top quality HC’s and assistants in either bb or Fb , but somehow they’re going to build a stadium costing well over 100 million to host 6 games a yr where they’d be lucky to get 40,000 to a game .

 

[pittguy81]

Seventeen years and the same debate is going on...no, it's actually intensified as the stupidity of Pederson and Nordenberg continues to resonate. Pitt football at Heinz just confirms how unimportant Pitt football is to the Nitters who run politics and the Pitt board, the Steelers who will always own the stadium in spirit and fan support, and the football fans who choose food options, booze, and comfort over playing football on campus in a college stadium.

The problem for the Heinz lovers is their numbers aren't increasing. Attitudes have hardened.

How do these pampered fans handle Navy's stadium or, for that matter, most all the away stadiums Pitt encounters?

Sorry Heinz defenders - the argument against Heinz isn't going away, hasn't gone away and will never go away. Pitt can build a home stadium if it put football anywhere near the top of its priorities. It doesn't. It won't even look at ways to finance it and it is one of the richest universities in the country.

Fresh take. Thanks.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

They can’t afford top quality HC’s and assistants in either bb or Fb , but somehow they’re going to build a stadium costing well over 100 million to host 6 games a yr where they’d be lucky to get 40,000 to a game .

Minnesota
UCF
Colorado State
Tulane
Charlotte
Houston

Should I continue.

An on-campus stadium, or at least a right-sized stadium is a necessity. Heck, even Georgia State turned down playing in the new dome which has state of the art downsizing technology to buy Turner Field and reconfigure it

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Minnesota
UCF
Colorado State
Tulane
Charlotte
Houston

Should I continue.

An on-campus stadium, or at least a right-sized stadium is a necessity. Heck, even Georgia State turned down playing in the new dome which has state of the art downsizing technology to buy Turner Field and reconfigure it

Hey I’m not saying it wouldn’t be nice , but a program not fully committed to winning isn’t going to spend the money necessary to build a stadium . I’d rather see them get top notch coaches , recruits and win . Fans and students will go to HF to cheer on a winning program .
Just look at the bb program win top 15 team , great building , full house . Bottom 15 team ,great building ,lose no fans . Winning is all that matters , build the greatest on campus stadium and winning 4/5 games in a season and the place will be half empty . It’s all about the W’s !

 

[FourPanthers]

Seventeen years and the same debate is going on...no, it's actually intensified as the stupidity of Pederson and Nordenberg continues to resonate. Pitt football at Heinz just confirms how unimportant Pitt football is to the Nitters who run politics and the Pitt board, the Steelers who will always own the stadium in spirit and fan support, and the football fans who choose food options, booze, and comfort over playing football on campus in a college stadium.

The problem for the Heinz lovers is their numbers aren't increasing. Attitudes have hardened.

How do these pampered fans handle Navy's stadium or, for that matter, most all the away stadiums Pitt encounters?

Sorry Heinz defenders - the argument against Heinz isn't going away, hasn't gone away and will never go away. Pitt can build a home stadium if it put football anywhere near the top of its priorities. It doesn't. It won't even look at ways to finance it and it is one of the richest universities in the country.

Just shut and support your team! Who give a $hit where they play. Fill the stadium so coach can recruit.

 

[pitt_87]

Pitt is in the ACC, a power 5 football conference. Building a smaller on campus stadium will do absolutely nothing to improve the football team.

Heinz Field has so many pluses. Great views of the city. Options to take a riverboat or a subway to a game. Convenient exit to the HOV lanes going north.
Just win and they will come!

 

[OhioValleyPanther]

I love going to Heinz Field and I have good time watching games. Am I a bad fan for not being miserable?

 

[DruidTM]

Just shut and support your team! Who give a $hit where they play. Fill the stadium so coach can recruit.

This

 

[Franb]

CMU wouldn't want a 45K seat stadium in the center of their campus. A better solution would be a joint 45K Pitt/CMU stadium at the top of Flagstaff Hill next to the CMU campus.

Tepper Stadium

Maybe it enables CMU to move up to the Patriot League.

That is a complete non- starter. Schenley Park is, well, a park. I do not know the exact details, but the land was given to the City to be used as a park.

 

[TD_istheman]

Heinz Field has so many pluses. Great views of the city. Options to take a riverboat or a subway to a game. Convenient exit to the HOV lanes going north.
Just win and they will come!

Disagree but that's what makes the world go around. You are losing potential life long fans by the 1000's off campus each year

 

[KanePA]

They can’t afford top quality HC’s and assistants in either bb or Fb , but somehow they’re going to build a stadium costing well over 100 million to host 6 games a yr where they’d be lucky to get 40,000 to a game .

MAC schools have figured it out. Pitt is capable as well

 

[Burgh15]

I have offered many. You buy up land/buildings, knock them down and build. Total project cost = $500 million

That isn't a solution. What buildings are you buying and knocking down?

 

[OriginalEther]

I have been to many college stadiums. They are all extreme dumps. Heinz is a Taj Mahal compared to them but it doesn't matter. Those dumps, with their bleacher seats and 1 bathroom per 20K people are filled and the atmosphere is off the charts....and recruits like it. Recruits dont care about what craft beer options there are and how many club seats a stadium has. They want to see a full stadium with energy. 30K in a 70K seat stadiuk sucks so bad

The fans make the atmosphere
Not the stadium
To say otherwise is poppycock
Hell, Wasn’t the narrative that selling beer would improve attendance and atmosphere? How’s that working?

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Disagree but that's what makes the world go around. You are losing potential life long fans by the 1000's off campus each year

They’re losing fans because their tired of watching losing / disappointing Fb .

 

[Fsgolfdr]

MAC schools have figured it out. Pitt is capable as well

I’d rather they figured out how to win .

 

[paulbl99]

The only stupid thing is the continuation by the legendary SMF et al posting this nonsense.
The dream, of a location where only a 75 yd field could be squeezed into or somehow spend a couple hundred VERY LARGE to buy up and raze the slums of Oakland, is unencumbered stupidity.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

How long until Heinz field is destroyed and rebuilt? I wish it was a bowl and not an open stack of seats. On camps, off campus, whatever, I just want someplace that doesn't feel dated the week after it opens. Even at Stiller games thee atmosphere can't compare to Kansas City or Seattle.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I have offered many. You buy up land/buildings, knock them down and build. Total project cost = $500 million

That isn't a solution. What buildings are you buying and knocking down?

Any

All buildings are eligible to be sold.

 

[Pittfan85]

CMU wouldn't want a 45K seat stadium in the center of their campus. A better solution would be a joint 45K Pitt/CMU stadium at the top of Flagstaff Hill next to the CMU campus.

Tepper Stadium

Maybe it enables CMU to move up to the Patriot League.

Well this is what we mean about ludicrous ideas...why in the world would CMU want a 45k seat stadium?

 

[jtownknowitall]

Well this is what we mean about ludicrous ideas...why in the world would CMU want a 45k seat stadium?

To improve its game day atmosphere