Here you go:

[Sean Miller Fan]

The current players are young versions of the following. We may not be bad in a couple years:

Carr = Krauser
Davis = Benjamin
Stevenson = Chevy
Stewart = Ramon

Hoping Peace/Brown can turn into at least a Dante Taylor.

The bad part is that those former Pitt greats really weren't that great, they thrived in a system that got the most out of them so even if these young guys reach those talent levels, not sure we'd see the same win/loss numbers

 

[levance2]

You are losing touch with reality.

 

[DiehardPanther]

The current players are young versions of the following. We may not be bad in a couple years:

Carr = Krauser
Davis = Benjamin
Stevenson = Chevy
Stewart = Ramon

Hoping Peace/Brown can turn into at least a Dante Taylor.

The bad part is that those former Pitt greats really weren't that great, they thrived in a system that got the most out of them so even if these young guys reach those talent levels, not sure we'd see the same win/loss numbers

Stallings does not equal Dixon.

 

[Pittfan85]

You are losing touch with reality.

Only now?

 

[PittMan 72]

You are losing touch with reality.

Think past tense may be more appropriate in this instance.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You are losing touch with reality.

Curious on your projections

 

[levance2]

Only now?

I have always been a SMF apologist. But his new meme of "We could win the NEC" is really odd. Since there's finally some consensus around Stallings being awful, he's flipped and now he has to be the contrarian talking about how good we can be. It's his way of grasping for attention.

 

[levance2]

Curious on your projections

I would consider Chevy and Krauser as two all-time greats. We have zero all-time greats on this team. You've matched players with similar body types and decided they are the same people. It's a gross over-simplification and it's bizarre.

Ramon and Benjamin are also two of my favorite Pitt players. Some of these guys could get to that level, maybe, but those guys played on talented, overachieving teams for four years. The development trajectory for these kids is wildly different.

I will be surprised if Carr stays at Pitt for four years.

 

[drp1tt]

The current players are young versions of the following. We may not be bad in a couple years:

Carr = Krauser
Davis = Benjamin
Stevenson = Chevy
Stewart = Ramon

Hoping Peace/Brown can turn into at least a Dante Taylor.

The bad part is that those former Pitt greats really weren't that great, they thrived in a system that got the most out of them so even if these young guys reach those talent levels, not sure we'd see the same win/loss numbers

You know I can kind of see where u r coming from. Things can change quickly in BB.

 

[achikes08]

The current players are young versions of the following. We may not be bad in a couple years:

Carr = Krauser
Davis = Benjamin
Stevenson = Chevy
Stewart = Ramon

Hoping Peace/Brown can turn into at least a Dante Taylor.

The bad part is that those former Pitt greats really weren't that great, they thrived in a system that got the most out of them so even if these young guys reach those talent levels, not sure we'd see the same win/loss numbers

Terrell Brown = Mark McCarroll

I agree with 3 of those, especially Carr and Krauser. I think Stevenson is a very different player than Chevy. Much more athletic, but probably won't be the rebounder/interior bruiser that Chevy was. He has more Sam Young to his game than Chevy, but I'm not sure that I can think of a good Pitt analogy from him (I've seen Ricardo Greer tossed around some).

 

[DiehardPanther]

Terrell Brown = Mark McCarroll

I agree with 3 of those, especially Carr and Krauser. I think Stevenson is a very different player than Chevy. Much more athletic, but probably won't be the rebounder/interior bruiser that Chevy was. He has more Sam Young to his game than Chevy, but I'm not sure that I can think of a good Pitt analogy from him (I've seen Ricardo Greer tossed around some).

Stevenson does remind me of Ricardo Greer.

 

[Jpripper88]

Terrell Brown = Mark McCarroll

I agree with 3 of those, especially Carr and Krauser. I think Stevenson is a very different player than Chevy. Much more athletic, but probably won't be the rebounder/interior bruiser that Chevy was. He has more Sam Young to his game than Chevy, but I'm not sure that I can think of a good Pitt analogy from him (I've seen Ricardo Greer tossed around some).

I think Stevenson to Greer is the most apt and best hope. I think the rest are pretty off base. Stewart has a long way to go to even be Ramon. Ramon was instantly impactful, despite competition. I don't expect positive impact from Stewart for a couple years.

 

[rockypanther]

The current players are young versions of the following. We may not be bad in a couple years:

Carr = Krauser
Davis = Benjamin
Stevenson = Chevy
Stewart = Ramon

Hoping Peace/Brown can turn into at least a Dante Taylor.

The bad part is that those former Pitt greats really weren't that great, they thrived in a system that got the most out of them so even if these young guys reach those talent levels, not sure we'd see the same win/loss numbers

You are nuts making these comparisons right now. And Chevy and Krauser would have been very good in any system.

 

[FireballZ]

I think Stevenson to Greer is the most apt and best hope. I think the rest are pretty off base. Stewart has a long way to go to even be Ramon. Ramon was instantly impactful, despite competition. I don't expect positive impact from Stewart for a couple years.

But it's easier to be more impactful as a spot shooter on a good team than a spot shooter on a stank team.

And if you followed along at all last night, you know that I haven't been impressed by Stewart. But it's a tad bit easier to get looks when you are surrounded by the Killer C's of Carl, Chevy and Chris, as opposed to the YMCA-league squad of 2017-18.

 

[h2p_5150]

There is no one on this team even close to Chevy. Chevy was a man amongst boys grabbing every rebound near him.

 

[rockypanther]

There is no one on this team even close to Chevy. Chevy was a man amongst boys grabbing every rebound near him.

And he was very skilled in the post in terms of using his body to convert shots consistently.

 

[Deer Head]

Chevy didn't play as a freshman and half of his redshirt freshman season either.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

You are losing touch with reality.

Alternative reality

 

[thebadby2]

Stevenson does remind me of Ricardo Greer.

A more athletic, less polished version maybe. That’s a much better comparison than Chevy.

The Chevy comparison wasn’t even close. Chevy was a post player. He rarely put the ball on the floor. Stevenson is a face-up player who makes his living driving to the hoop. .

 

[Chescat]

The current players are young versions of the following. We may not be bad in a couple years:

Carr = Krauser
Davis = Benjamin
Stevenson = Chevy
Stewart = Ramon

Hoping Peace/Brown can turn into at least a Dante Taylor.

The bad part is that those former Pitt greats really weren't that great, they thrived in a system that got the most out of them so even if these young guys reach those talent levels, not sure we'd see the same win/loss numbers

This ranks up there with some of your more infamous posts.

 

[Jpripper88]

But it's easier to be more impactful as a spot shooter on a good team than a spot shooter on a stank team.

And if you followed along at all last night, you know that I haven't been impressed by Stewart. But it's a tad bit easier to get looks when you are surrounded by the Killer C's of Carl, Chevy and Chris, as opposed to the YMCA-league squad of 2017-18.

I agree. Of course, there was much, much more competition for minutes and higher expectation of performance. Either way, I don't think he is close to the shooter, anyway. Ramon's shot was much quicker and it fell at a pretty decent clip right away and was elite in his 2nd season. Obviously this is very early, but Stewart has taken 4.5 3s per game in 24 mpg, so if those things hold, we should have a pretty good statistical comparison, even if the team makeups were different.

 

[Chescat]

I agree. Of course, there was much, much more competition for minutes and higher expectation of performance. Either way, I don't think he is close to the shooter, anyway. Ramon's shot was much quicker and it fell at a pretty decent clip right away and was elite in his 2nd season. Obviously this is very early, but Stewart has taken 4.5 3s per game in 24 mpg, so if those things hold, we should have a pretty good statistical comparison, even if the team makeups were different.

And he's made ONE field goal in those two games His shooting % is somewhere
between 10% and 15% so far. He's lost out there. All I've seen him do is go to a
spot and hope he gets an open look. He supposedly is a shooter, yet he can't get
a shot off, and he obviously can't create. That combination basically renders you useless.
As far as his D is concerned....D???? ......non existent.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I think Stevenson to Greer is the most apt and best hope.

I like what I have seen from Stevenson so far, but he has a long, long way to go to even get into the same conversation with Ricky Greer. I think some of you guys forget that Greer is the 6th leading scorer in Pitt history. I mean let's hope so, but does anyone think that Stevenson even gets close to that?

Greer also averaged 6.4 rebounds per game in his worst season at Pitt, and was as high as 9.8 per game as a junior.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Only now?

I have always been a SMF apologist. But his new meme of "We could win the NEC" is really odd. Since there's finally some consensus around Stallings being awful, he's flipped and now he has to be the contrarian talking about how good we can be. It's his way of grasping for attention.

Let me explain:

I have prepared for the worst. I knew how bad we were going to be unlike most people who seemed to think we'd be NIT level. We have an entirely new team, the likes of which I'm not sure college basketball has ever seen without some type of sanctions. My fear was that Carr would be Kithcart, JWF would be Clark, Stevenson would be Manigualt, and Davis would be IUP level. George, Peace, Chukwuka, and Brown are about what I expected.

The fact that Carr, JWF, Stevenson, and Davis are better than I thought and the fact that I feel they have talent levels not strikingly dissimilar from the guys I compared them with gives me some hope.

I mean how long has it been since we've seen a P5-level freshman come here and contribute? James Robinson? Young and Artis didn't do much as frosh but you could tell they would be good eventually.

Carr and Stevenson look like legitimate ACC players.

The NEC talk is because I feared this might be 2-30 team, a team who might be one of the worst teams in the BEC. However, we look like a team that would finish 3rd or 4th in the NEC and could possibly win the NEC tournament and that is better than I thought we'd be.

I'm not happy with Stallings by any means and I'd love to have a new coach tomorrow but the reality is he has brought in a few (just a few) players who are an upgrade over whatever the heck Jamie brought in the last 3 years.

 

[Jpripper88]

I like what I have seen from Stevenson so far, but he has a long, long way to go to even get into the same conversation with Ricky Greer. I think some of you guys forget that Greer is the 6th leading scorer in Pitt history. I mean let's hope so, but does anyone think that Stevenson even gets close to that?

Greer also averaged 6.4 rebounds per game in his worst season at Pitt, and was as high as 9.8 per game as a junior.

Oh, I agree, but I can see the similarities there more than any other and that is certainly the pie in the sky hope.

 

[FlashLightningrod]

I think Stevenson to Greer is the most apt and best hope. I think the rest are pretty off base. Stewart has a long way to go to even be Ramon. Ramon was instantly impactful, despite competition. I don't expect positive impact from Stewart for a couple years.

Right now I would equate Stewart more to Jason Maile. I agree that it may be a few years to be a real contributor. It just depends how quickly he adjusts to the speed of the game at this level because it does not look like his athleticism will let him create many shots on his own.