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This is a very simple choice for anyone who is honest. Can you say SUPREME COURT !!!!!!
If you want a SC that is controlled by the left for the next 40 years, vote for Clinton.
If you want a SC that is controlled by the right for the next 40 years, vote for Trump.
A vote for Clinton ensures radical changes to 2nd amendment (she will confiscate guns), further erosion to the 1st amendment with the PC police telling us what we can and can't say, radical restrictions to freedom of religion, totally open borders with your money going to pay benefits to anyone who they want, unlimited taxation with extreme redistributing of wealth and government growth for as far as the eye (or spending others money) can go. Shall I list more reality of a totally liberal SC for the next 40 years.
If you want this and more, vote for Clinton, if not just STFU and try to think of our children's future. This isn't about the next four years, it's about the very existence of our Country. If you can't understand this, just stay home, suck you thumb and don't vote.
I, for one, will vote for Donald Trump and be proud to do so.
If you want a SC that is controlled by the left for the next 40 years, vote for Clinton.
If you want a SC that is controlled by the right for the next 40 years, vote for Trump.
A vote for Clinton ensures radical changes to 2nd amendment (she will confiscate guns), further erosion to the 1st amendment with the PC police telling us what we can and can't say, radical restrictions to freedom of religion, totally open borders with your money going to pay benefits to anyone who they want, unlimited taxation with extreme redistributing of wealth and government growth for as far as the eye (or spending others money) can go. Shall I list more reality of a totally liberal SC for the next 40 years.
If you want this and more, vote for Clinton, if not just STFU and try to think of our children's future. This isn't about the next four years, it's about the very existence of our Country. If you can't understand this, just stay home, suck you thumb and don't vote.
I, for one, will vote for Donald Trump and be proud to do so.
ALL of those talking points you have listed have been thoroughly debunked.
Not that I'd expect you to listen. When presented with facts, you guys just double down on your ignorance.
Why do you guys waste your time?
This is possibly the simplest election of our lifetime. There's about 5-7 swing states that will decide the election. The winner will most likely have under 50% of the votes. The deciding factor will be how the indy voters go and they won't decide until after the debates when these 2 murder each other. Any bitching now us just people seeing who can puff their chest out more.
This is possibly the simplest election of our lifetime. There's about 5-7 swing states that will decide the election. The winner will most likely have under 50% of the votes. The deciding factor will be how the indy voters go and they won't decide until after the debates when these 2 murder each other. Any bitching now us just people seeing who can puff their chest out more.
That does figure prominently in my choice. Plessy v. Ferguson stood for over 60 years. I for one don't want to go back to those days, so I am NOT voting for Chump.
Who the hell cares about whom your going to vote for! You come off as some dumbskull died in the wool Democrat that would vote democrat if a ham sandwich were running for President. That's coming from me a registered Independent. get a life
Spindler:
"You can't be serious to compare Trump to Hitler. Germany in 1933 had 8 different political parties and could not control anyone or anything let alone a career politician like Hitler. Trump is not a politician, and lacks his own brown shirts thugs army. Our House and Senate will control what Trump can get done, again in 4 years better options for president will be available."
I am absolutely serious in comparing Trump's position today to Hitler's Germany in 1933, though Trump's physique, mannerisms and fondness for quoting Mussolini lends itself more to a caricature of Il Duce.
There were 5 major parties in Germany in 1933: KPD, SDP, BVP, DNVP and the NSDAP. All others combined comprised only 23 seats of the 647 in the Reichstag. Hitler's NSDAP garnered 44% of the vote. Al Gore received the majority of votes for the president in 2000 (archaic Electorial College), yet with the Electorial College count in dispute, the 5 Republican members of the Supreme Court appointed George W. Bush President, an action deemed unconstitutional by virtually every respected constitutional scholar.
That is why it is cause for alarm that in the 2 major party system (4 sub-major parties) of the US that a man with principles so in congruence with Hitler's in 1933 is even considered a candidate for president. Vilification and hatred of specific ethnic groups, police state tactics against religious minorities, a determination to violate International Law and the Geneva Convention, promises to greatly enlarge the military, stating that he will make decisions contrary to the Constitution, an unswerving admiration of tyrants and dictators past and present constitute many of the positions of the to-be Fuhrer in 1933.
The point is that the Germans in elective and financial power in 1933 determined that their government institutions would be able to curb the excess of a tyrant.
Hitler's assent to power was achieved by completely legal means. There was no putsch or coup de etat. Their institutions failed them. So may ours.
If elected, this man will do exponentially more damage to America than all the wildest dreams of the murderous jihadists in existence.
"You can't be serious to compare Trump to Hitler. Germany in 1933 had 8 different political parties and could not control anyone or anything let alone a career politician like Hitler. Trump is not a politician, and lacks his own brown shirts thugs army. Our House and Senate will control what Trump can get done, again in 4 years better options for president will be available."
I am absolutely serious in comparing Trump's position today to Hitler's Germany in 1933, though Trump's physique, mannerisms and fondness for quoting Mussolini lends itself more to a caricature of Il Duce.
There were 5 major parties in Germany in 1933: KPD, SDP, BVP, DNVP and the NSDAP. All others combined comprised only 23 seats of the 647 in the Reichstag. Hitler's NSDAP garnered 44% of the vote. Al Gore received the majority of votes for the president in 2000 (archaic Electorial College), yet with the Electorial College count in dispute, the 5 Republican members of the Supreme Court appointed George W. Bush President, an action deemed unconstitutional by virtually every respected constitutional scholar.
That is why it is cause for alarm that in the 2 major party system (4 sub-major parties) of the US that a man with principles so in congruence with Hitler's in 1933 is even considered a candidate for president. Vilification and hatred of specific ethnic groups, police state tactics against religious minorities, a determination to violate International Law and the Geneva Convention, promises to greatly enlarge the military, stating that he will make decisions contrary to the Constitution, an unswerving admiration of tyrants and dictators past and present constitute many of the positions of the to-be Fuhrer in 1933.
The point is that the Germans in elective and financial power in 1933 determined that their government institutions would be able to curb the excess of a tyrant.
Hitler's assent to power was achieved by completely legal means. There was no putsch or coup de etat. Their institutions failed them. So may ours.
If elected, this man will do exponentially more damage to America than all the wildest dreams of the murderous jihadists in existence.
Who the hell cares about your point of view? Mine is as valid as yours or anyone else's that has been expressed in this thread. (Of course, I think mine is more valid, but that's a personal bias.) For the record, when I lived in Pennsylvania, I voted for such Republicans as Dick Thornburgh and John Heinz, because I frankly thought they were better suited for the offices they sought than their Democratic opponents. That clearly isn't the case with Donald J. Chump.
Oh, and thank you for your service, from the son of a World War II vet who was also commander of his American Legion post.
I voted for Kasich in the primaries. Had other republicans done the same the GOP wins in a landslide.
Instead......Hillary wins by 2 percentage points
Instead......Hillary wins by 2 percentage points
Gun sales spiked when Obama was elected because people thought he'd change the laws. What happened? Nothing.
The hyperbole on both sides is out of control. Vote whoever you wish - obviously - but spare us the nonsense.
He most certainly was not. His wife is (she's been married to John Kerry now for quite a while) but John was Republican.
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Or Bigger Pants Suits than Tight Ends or Bigger Remarks than Tight Lips in the White House.
I fear neither because America's System is always bigger than any one person. The Separation of Powers makes everyone work together. If they don't, Gridlock happens over Compromise and that just causes slower change but change will keep happening nonetheless.
Americans always fight over many issues of change but when faced with outside threats Americans always unite and Hillary or Donald with Americans will deal with it!
Gloom and Doom with High Hopes of Change is the Hallmark of every Campaign.
After the election, America stays the same, with ever slower pace of change, as needed and always accepted after many years.
I welcomed this election and it brought more new voters to both parties than any before in American History even with all discourse among all of us what we think we all know is best?
America is still a better place to be and lead over any King, Sheiks, Queen, Dictator, or Religious Leader.
Americans are Individual Citizens that decide our own fate and not any Subject to
anyone by Title or Deed?
Let me put this election into more perspective. Hillary & Donald's Daughters, Ivanka & Chelsea, are best of friends. Both have Father-In-Laws that have just got out of Prison a few years ago. Both Convicted Felons Father-In-Laws owe about $12 millions in Court Costs, Fines, and Restitution combined.
Hillary and Donald Campaigns have agreed not to bring up that personal aspect of both families and the media is respecting that too. Both Donald and Hillary have Net Worth over $150 million and neither has paid off these pending sums owed to Investment Victims and the Justice System?
No matter how one thinks both Donald or Hillary hate each other, they don't take it personally and neither is reaching in their own pockets to make sure these debts owed to government are being paid even though both can spy them off in the Public, Victims and government interests?
After this Election is over both will talk again to get mutual advice, work together again and who knows may give Pardons later in either Presidency for both Daughter's Father-In-Laws?
Consequently, although Hillary and Donald may get emotional attacking each other, they understand family is family, and elections are just contests not war on their families. They won't get emotional against each other after the election either. They have more in common together and have worked together in the past, will do so again and in the future.
They will both be chasing failure to become even more successful later for their families and help America that way too. Voters should keep that mind before getting to emotional as well.
I respect both Candidates and anyone Voting for one of them or someone else will know after January 20th 2017, things will be fine and changes coming slowly no matter who become President.
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"the very existence of our Country."
You think that the election of a centrist Democrat threatens the existence of the US? I guess that the fear-mangers have done a good job.
Surely you are not making that prediction about Pennsylvania. This is what you need to understand: (1) no state won by Repubs in '12 will go to dems in '16. That's fact. And (2) ALL MARGINS OF VICTORY FROM 2012 WILL NARROW.
In 2012, Obama got a scant 1.12% more votes than Romney in the great state of Pennsylvania. That number is going down. If from that percentage, one more voter than 1/2 of them (.606% +1) votes the other way this November then Pennsylvania goes to Trump. Do you really think it is possible that the vibe in the Keystone state has remained so unchanged over the past 4 years that this tiny number can be unaffected?
It will not be. Enough white female voters alone in Pennsylvania dislike Hillary for her over-the-top feminism, and then her abrasive, careless comments toward an industry and way of life that runs deep in the state - coal. It is useless to argue whether voters are moral or just in this process. They are. And they are going to the polls in November. She has lost Penn and Ohio.
You mean sort of like in the months and years prior to the 2008 election, when all major networks, night after night after night kept a running total on the federal debt, back when it was well below 1/2 of what it is now? Think about that. when was the last time you saw the news report a total of the federal debt? It is now more than 19 trillion and will exceed 20 trillion before Obama leaves office.
That's funny that you try to bring that up.
The conservative Committee for Responsible Federal Budget estimates that Trumps plan will raise the deficit by $10 trillion over ten years.
Clinton? About $250 million.
I know, I know.....facts......
This is what YOU need to understand: Definition of "fact". Hint: It is not an opinion. finis
I call it the way I see as well. You and Mrs Clinton seem like the perfect couple. Why doesn't that suprise me! Just remember to stick by your vote 4 years from now pal! That will be a years socialistic assault the US absorbed. No judgement here but just saying a lot of back and forth two faced crap on this site. Let's see how many people we get on the gov't tab before people come to grips with the US being the next Euro style country. Both parties? Maybe from state to state there are two parties. Nationally the US is 20 years or less away from a one party(Dem) with several minor parties system. Once the open border deal grabs a few more swing states the Electoral College is a Dem guarantee. A couple great Americans wrote about the end of the USA democracy and it centered on the population being able to vote for money. IE the ability to have the gov't provide a living through entitlements. We are almost there boys so hang in there and vote for HC. Man that's scary for my kids kid. Hey Yinzer great call though. I'll think real hard before I vote too.
What can't be defended is her major lapse in judgement and leadership. I mean did she break laws when she was saying one thing publicly then something completely different to her family? Probably not. Was she breaking laws when the majority of the families of the dead where blatantly lied(their claim) to by her? Probably not. So I guess you are right huh?
It's even more simple than that. Indy not deciding anything. Voter turnout is all that counts. If minorities and woman show up to vote the Dems will keep the Whites House and make major gains in House of Reps and Senate as well as state races. It's actually that simple. Face it boys our vote isn't as important as it use to be.
Yep I'm absolutely positive a big gov't candidate like Clinton will be the best choice to lower taxes and keep the gov't expenses in check. I'm with you on this one. It usually works out that way. You know Dems spending less money and us getting more money.
Take "your country" back. Repeal the 13th, 14th, 15th, and 19th Amendments.
Funny!!! I like you! Every Liberals go to for sure! "They hate minorities, woman and want to keep the middle class down". Listen man just pay your taxes and take your place in the middle of the pack. As a true Indy I can say without a question in my mind that you're as bad as a right of right moron! But have at it!
Not sure if this link will work, but I found this to be a good analysis of the situation with Trump. The guy who wrote it is a Republican.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/o...region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0
In my opinion, Hillary is an untrustworthy egoist, and I never thought there would be any way that I would even consider voting for her. Unfortunately, the alternative is simply so much worse.
Republicans can only hope that those from both parties who believe in conservative economic principles (including capitalism) and have sympathetic views on human rights (like same sex marriage) can come together to form a voting block which can provide a worthy alternative to the rising left. A Trump victory would set this possibility back for a generation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/o...region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0
In my opinion, Hillary is an untrustworthy egoist, and I never thought there would be any way that I would even consider voting for her. Unfortunately, the alternative is simply so much worse.
Republicans can only hope that those from both parties who believe in conservative economic principles (including capitalism) and have sympathetic views on human rights (like same sex marriage) can come together to form a voting block which can provide a worthy alternative to the rising left. A Trump victory would set this possibility back for a generation.
Trump is awful. That has absolutely nothing to do with how awful Hillary Clinton is and how much of a liar she is and how jaded her sympathies are. Her husband is a rapist and she has vilified and attacked numerous women over the years, in order to defend him. She has clearly committed fraud and if the average Joe did what she did with her emails or Benghazi or Clinton Foundation or uranium, they would be in Leavenworth. She is a despicable human being and not a champion for anyone who doesn't serve her interests of accumulating power and has no problem changing those sides whenever it suits her.
Also, her policies (if she does truly align with Sanders and what she has entertained with the new far left) will certainly continue to damage the economy in monumental ways that could be (like the New Deal) almost impossible to fix because of societal reliance. She and the far left want to build a constituency that has no choice, but to continue with them because everyone else threatens their suckling position.
That is what is so scary with Trump. They couldn't put anyone up, despite two absolutely atrocious Liberal candidates, who had the nuts to operate towards the middle. However, with the Supreme Court in such a tenuous position, can those with more conservative interests afford the next 8 years to be controlled by Hillary?
I can't and won't vote for either (although in my state it literally doesn't matter at all) but I'm not sure which is the lesser evil.
You can't be serious. The Republican Party has been banging the drums on the deficit for decades - remember the balanced budget amendment - predicting doom if we don't lower the deficit. Except when there is a Republican in the White House. Then, deficits do not matter, at least according to Dick Chaney.
Wow! Interesting post! Can't wait to read the feedback. As an Indy I'm in between a rock and a hard place. Did I say that right?
I'm not a Dem or a Republican but when did the Republican party become a collection of people who ignore facts and only focus on their feelings?
It's hard to take their leadership and opinions seriously when every retort ignores facts and is solely focused on their feelings. That mentality is how you get a mental midget as your nomination, leaving no choice for any educated person.
If ethics are your turning point, what you listed is nothing more an average day in the life of Trump. If he's talking, he's lying. There's a reason no-one from the Republican leadership was willing to show up at the RNC- when voting day comes they are all voting for Hillary too.
It's hard to take their leadership and opinions seriously when every retort ignores facts and is solely focused on their feelings. That mentality is how you get a mental midget as your nomination, leaving no choice for any educated person.
If ethics are your turning point, what you listed is nothing more an average day in the life of Trump. If he's talking, he's lying. There's a reason no-one from the Republican leadership was willing to show up at the RNC- when voting day comes they are all voting for Hillary too.
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Kopikat said....
"...it is useless to argue whether voters are moral or just in this process. They are. And they are going to the polls in November. She has lost Penn and Ohio";
I say.........After this latest embarrassment with Trump /Khan family.....hillary hasn't lost anything.......
"...it is useless to argue whether voters are moral or just in this process. They are. And they are going to the polls in November. She has lost Penn and Ohio";
I say.........After this latest embarrassment with Trump /Khan family.....hillary hasn't lost anything.......
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And really, this race isn't as close as people are making it out to be because we still have the electoral college and there Trump gets trounced even though the popular might be very close. Of course it makes absolutely no sense to continue to have the electoral college now that voters have access to information 24/7 and can become as informed as they choose. That is another interesting election issue moving forward.
Make no mistake I'm not supporting either of these candidate! Do me a favor though. Don't patronize regarding ethics. Joke play! Clinton, both, will go down as two of the most unethical politicians in American politics. If you disagree then don't hide behind a computer passive aggressively. It's hard to take most politicians leadership seriously. Most people that are in congress are a piece of shitt! Guess what every poll on that claim has revealed? Yep politicians are a piece of shitt. So when you say "your" nomination all you proved was your a typical Lib that follow like sheep. You're no Indy and all can see that. I will not vote for Trump because I believe it would turn into a side show for four years. I would never vote for Clinton because she is a huge gov't candidate, not Mod Dem, and without question a lying arrogant scum bag. Now comes the time when I call out your lame passive aggressive Lib Dem hack job.
Forget it you're post is not worth it. Step back into the middle of the pack brother.
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