Houston is laying the wood to Louisville. 31-0 at the half. They're having orgasms over on BWI, as Louisville was a threat to their dreams.
Houston - Louisville game.
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Like Louisville, Penn State will lose one of their final two games. They don't have the depth to maintain it.
Penn state beat one real team and lost to the only other two real teams they've faced.... fact.... the rest are soupcans
Pitt beat them last year, and Clemson this year that barely got by them, it would be a good game, but Petrino is being Bushwhacked by Tom Herman. This year looks like BAMA on Top, then everyone else is parity scramble.
Louisville as an 11-1 team who didn't win their division and had only 1 Top 25 win was never getting in over an 11-2 Big Ten champion. Never. Penn State is 3 wins away assuming OSU beats Michigan.
WOW....looks like Penn State path to accent to the NCS Playoffs has both credit to Pitt & ACC as well trepidation in having to admit Pitt may have sealed their fate way back in September by just 3 Points! What a finish coming up for WVU & PSU and who would have thought, Pitt having an impact on both Teams ability to make the Playoffs?
1. Pitt beating Clemson caused Clemson the need to win remaining games?
2. ACC's ULou losing to Houston & Clemson ended their run?
3. Michigan must beat Ohio State & Win Big Ten Champs?
4. Ohio State Beats Michigan & Ohio State In Playoffs?
5. WVU Wins Its Last Games May In Ahead Big Ten Team?
6. Penn State May Have to Face Former Pitt's Chryst?
7. Penn State Losing To Pitt By 3 & Ohio State 11-1 Still Makes Playoffs?
8. Ohio State 11-1 Losing To Penn State Won't Stop Ohio State?
9. If Pitt had beat OKSU Penn State would have had a better chance?
10. Penn State Wins Big Ten But Not In Playoffs unless Michigan, Clemson, WVU, OKSU, OU, Ohio State, and Washington all lose even if Penn State wins the next 2 games and get into Big Ten Champ Game? It can happen and Pitt would be the block or hope for Penn State?
I love CFB!
1. Pitt beating Clemson caused Clemson the need to win remaining games?
2. ACC's ULou losing to Houston & Clemson ended their run?
3. Michigan must beat Ohio State & Win Big Ten Champs?
4. Ohio State Beats Michigan & Ohio State In Playoffs?
5. WVU Wins Its Last Games May In Ahead Big Ten Team?
6. Penn State May Have to Face Former Pitt's Chryst?
7. Penn State Losing To Pitt By 3 & Ohio State 11-1 Still Makes Playoffs?
8. Ohio State 11-1 Losing To Penn State Won't Stop Ohio State?
9. If Pitt had beat OKSU Penn State would have had a better chance?
10. Penn State Wins Big Ten But Not In Playoffs unless Michigan, Clemson, WVU, OKSU, OU, Ohio State, and Washington all lose even if Penn State wins the next 2 games and get into Big Ten Champ Game? It can happen and Pitt would be the block or hope for Penn State?
I love CFB!
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Paths for Oklahoma, USC and eight other underdogs to the College Football Playoff, LINK:
No. 11 Oklahoma State Cowboys (8-2, 6-1 Big 12)
Best win(s): vs. No. 14 West Virginia Mountaineers | Losses: vs. Central Michigan Chippewas , at Baylor Bears
Remaining games (must-wins): at TCU Horned Frogs , at Oklahoma Sooners
What needs to happen: Winning the Big 12 alone launches the Pokes into consideration, but it likely won't be enough. It would be imperative that Michigan Wolverines wins the Big Ten and Alabama Crimson Tide wins the SEC. If Michigan wins the Big Ten, Ohio State Buckeyes would have two losses, diminishing the Big Ten's chances of getting two teams in. Same goes for the SEC, because if Alabama loses the SEC title game, there's a very good chance it would still be chosen for the CFP along with the SEC champion.
Next, Oklahoma State needs somebody that isn't Washington Huskies to win the Pac-12. The most desirable candidate for the Cowboys would be Washington State Cougars . Then the Cowboys would be compared to another two-loss team, and one that actually has a worse loss than Oklahoma State's to Central Michigan. Washington State lost to an FCS team, Eastern Washington. Speaking of that Central Michigan loss, it's possible for Oklahoma State to be chosen over another Pac-12 team like Colorado Buffaloes , Utah Utes or even Southern California. If the committee has a long enough memory to recall that the CMU loss was the result of an insane Hail Mary play that shouldn't have happened, it's possible they won't punish the Cowboys nearly as much for the loss as they would under ordinary circumstance. That's purely speculation, though. We have no idea how the committee would actually view that loss when comparing teams.
Will they get in? Not a great chance but not impossible. I believe one of the biggest barriers is that both of Oklahoma State's final two games are on the road. Oh, and that Central Michigan loss. Chance: 10 percent
No. 14 West Virginia (8-1, 5-1 Big 12)
Best win(s): vs. TCU, at Texas Longhorns | Losses: at Oklahoma State
Remaining games (must-wins): vs. Oklahoma, at Iowa State Cyclones , vs. Baylor
What needs to happen: It's really not all that complicated for West Virginia. It's ranked lower than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State now simply because it's West Virginia, and it has no major wins. If it wins out to pick up victories over Oklahoma and Baylor, suddenly it does. Then it would just need Oklahoma to beat Oklahoma State and West Virginia is your Big 12 champion. Then, if Washington doesn't win the Pac-12, a one-loss West Virginia is suddenly more attractive than a two-loss Pac-12 champion.
Will they get in? It's a lot more likely than you think because West Virginia's toughest remaining games are in Morgantown. The problem is having to rely on Oklahoma State and Washington to lose other games. Chance: 25 percent
No. 7 Wisconsin Badgers (8-2, 5-1 Big Ten)
Best win(s): vs. No. 16 LSU, vs. No. 18 Nebraska Cornhuskers | Losses: at No. 3 Michigan, vs. No. 2 Ohio State
Remaining games (must-wins): at Purdue Boilermakers , vs. Minnesota Golden Gophers
What needs to happen: The prevailing theory among many is that a two-loss Wisconsin can't get in, even if it wins the Big Ten. That's just not true. If Wisconsin wins its final two games and then wins the Big Ten title game, it will add a win over either No. 2 Ohio State, No. 3 Michigan or No. 8 Penn State Nittany Lions to its résumé. That's three impressive wins, and Wisconsin's two losses will have been by seven points to Michigan and in overtime to Ohio State. A two-loss Big Ten champion is not getting left out of the playoff this year, though Wisconsin's case would be bolstered with another Washington loss just to be safe.
Will they get in? Chances are pretty dang high! The biggest roadblock would be beating either Michigan or Ohio State in the title game, but I believe beating Penn State is certainly doable. Chance: 35 percent
No. 8 Penn State (8-2, 6-1 Big Ten)
Best win(s): vs. No. 2 Ohio State | Losses: at No. 3 Michigan, vs. Pitt
Remaining games (must-wins): at Rutgers Scarlet Knights , vs. Michigan State Spartans
What needs to happen: It isn't complicated. Penn State needs to beat Rutgers and Michigan State and it needs Ohio State to beat Michigan. If that happens Penn State is playing for a Big Ten title, where it will have a chance to add a win over Wisconsin or Nebraska to its résumé. If that happens a two-loss Penn State team that is Big Ten champion is being selected for the playoff over a one-loss Ohio State team it beat, no matter what anybody else tells you. It's possible Ohio State could still get in as well, but there's no way Ohio State is taken ahead of Penn State if it wins the Big Ten.
Will they get in? I'm more confident in Ohio State's ability to beat Michigan than I am in Penn State's ability to win its next three games, even if two of them are Rutgers or Michigan State. Chance: 40 percent
No. 18 Nebraska (8-2, 5-2 Big Ten)
Best win(s): at Northwestern Wildcats , at Indiana Hoosiers | Losses: at No. 7 Wisconsin, at No. 2 Ohio State
Remaining games (must-wins): vs. Maryland Terrapins , at Iowa Hawkeyes
What needs to happen: It's an extreme longshot, but Nebraska does have a path. The biggest problem is it has no impressive wins, and its only chance to get one would be to win the Big Ten title game. For that to happen, it needs to win its final two games and have Wisconsin to lose to either Purdue or Minnesota. Then Nebraska would need to beat either Michigan, Ohio State or Penn State in the Big Ten title game. The ideal scenario would be for Michigan to lose to Indiana, then beat Ohio State while Penn State wins its final two games. Then, if Nebraska beats Penn State in Indianapolis, there wouldn't be a Big Ten team with fewer than two losses, and Nebraska would be the conference's champion. Mix in some chaos in the Pac-12 and Big 12 (Washington and Oklahoma losses would be helpful), Alabama winning the SEC and anybody but Clemson Tigers or Louisville Cardinals winning the ACC, and the Huskers have a chance!
Will they get in? Well, if you just read what needs to happen, you know the chances aren't good. Chance: 2 percent
No. 13 Southern California (7-3, 6-2 Pac-12)
Best win(s): at No. 6 Washington, vs. No. 10 Colorado | Losses: vs. No. 1 Alabama, at No. 24 Stanford, at No. 12 Utah
Remaining games (must-wins): at UCLA Bruins , vs. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
What needs to happen: USC would need a lot of help, but it has one big thing working in its favor: It's USC. It also doesn't hurt that it has two top-10 wins and all three of its losses have come to teams that are currently ranked.
USC needs to win the Pac-12, however, and that's not a simple proposition. It has the tiebreaker over Colorado, but not Utah, so ideally the Buffaloes lose to Washington State and then beat Utah while USC wins out. That leaves both USC and Colorado at 7-2, and USC moves on. Then if USC beats Washington (Washington State could work, too, but the Huskies would be a lot better) again in a Pac-12 title game rematch, it has a very strong case, even for a three-loss team. Like its Pac-12 counterparts we've already gone over, Alabama winning the SEC, Michigan or Ohio State winning the Big Ten, Oklahoma State winning the Big 12, and neither Clemson nor Louisville winning the ACC would help a lot, too. In fact, all of those things may be mandatory.
Will they get in? I don't think it's insane to imagine USC winning the Pac-12, but all that other stuff? Yeah, that's probably not going to happen. Chance: 0.5 percent
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...er-underdogs-to-the-college-football-playoff/
No. 11 Oklahoma State Cowboys (8-2, 6-1 Big 12)
Best win(s): vs. No. 14 West Virginia Mountaineers | Losses: vs. Central Michigan Chippewas , at Baylor Bears
Remaining games (must-wins): at TCU Horned Frogs , at Oklahoma Sooners
What needs to happen: Winning the Big 12 alone launches the Pokes into consideration, but it likely won't be enough. It would be imperative that Michigan Wolverines wins the Big Ten and Alabama Crimson Tide wins the SEC. If Michigan wins the Big Ten, Ohio State Buckeyes would have two losses, diminishing the Big Ten's chances of getting two teams in. Same goes for the SEC, because if Alabama loses the SEC title game, there's a very good chance it would still be chosen for the CFP along with the SEC champion.
Next, Oklahoma State needs somebody that isn't Washington Huskies to win the Pac-12. The most desirable candidate for the Cowboys would be Washington State Cougars . Then the Cowboys would be compared to another two-loss team, and one that actually has a worse loss than Oklahoma State's to Central Michigan. Washington State lost to an FCS team, Eastern Washington. Speaking of that Central Michigan loss, it's possible for Oklahoma State to be chosen over another Pac-12 team like Colorado Buffaloes , Utah Utes or even Southern California. If the committee has a long enough memory to recall that the CMU loss was the result of an insane Hail Mary play that shouldn't have happened, it's possible they won't punish the Cowboys nearly as much for the loss as they would under ordinary circumstance. That's purely speculation, though. We have no idea how the committee would actually view that loss when comparing teams.
Will they get in? Not a great chance but not impossible. I believe one of the biggest barriers is that both of Oklahoma State's final two games are on the road. Oh, and that Central Michigan loss. Chance: 10 percent
No. 14 West Virginia (8-1, 5-1 Big 12)
Best win(s): vs. TCU, at Texas Longhorns | Losses: at Oklahoma State
Remaining games (must-wins): vs. Oklahoma, at Iowa State Cyclones , vs. Baylor
What needs to happen: It's really not all that complicated for West Virginia. It's ranked lower than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State now simply because it's West Virginia, and it has no major wins. If it wins out to pick up victories over Oklahoma and Baylor, suddenly it does. Then it would just need Oklahoma to beat Oklahoma State and West Virginia is your Big 12 champion. Then, if Washington doesn't win the Pac-12, a one-loss West Virginia is suddenly more attractive than a two-loss Pac-12 champion.
Will they get in? It's a lot more likely than you think because West Virginia's toughest remaining games are in Morgantown. The problem is having to rely on Oklahoma State and Washington to lose other games. Chance: 25 percent
No. 7 Wisconsin Badgers (8-2, 5-1 Big Ten)
Best win(s): vs. No. 16 LSU, vs. No. 18 Nebraska Cornhuskers | Losses: at No. 3 Michigan, vs. No. 2 Ohio State
Remaining games (must-wins): at Purdue Boilermakers , vs. Minnesota Golden Gophers
What needs to happen: The prevailing theory among many is that a two-loss Wisconsin can't get in, even if it wins the Big Ten. That's just not true. If Wisconsin wins its final two games and then wins the Big Ten title game, it will add a win over either No. 2 Ohio State, No. 3 Michigan or No. 8 Penn State Nittany Lions to its résumé. That's three impressive wins, and Wisconsin's two losses will have been by seven points to Michigan and in overtime to Ohio State. A two-loss Big Ten champion is not getting left out of the playoff this year, though Wisconsin's case would be bolstered with another Washington loss just to be safe.
Will they get in? Chances are pretty dang high! The biggest roadblock would be beating either Michigan or Ohio State in the title game, but I believe beating Penn State is certainly doable. Chance: 35 percent
No. 8 Penn State (8-2, 6-1 Big Ten)
Best win(s): vs. No. 2 Ohio State | Losses: at No. 3 Michigan, vs. Pitt
Remaining games (must-wins): at Rutgers Scarlet Knights , vs. Michigan State Spartans
What needs to happen: It isn't complicated. Penn State needs to beat Rutgers and Michigan State and it needs Ohio State to beat Michigan. If that happens Penn State is playing for a Big Ten title, where it will have a chance to add a win over Wisconsin or Nebraska to its résumé. If that happens a two-loss Penn State team that is Big Ten champion is being selected for the playoff over a one-loss Ohio State team it beat, no matter what anybody else tells you. It's possible Ohio State could still get in as well, but there's no way Ohio State is taken ahead of Penn State if it wins the Big Ten.
Will they get in? I'm more confident in Ohio State's ability to beat Michigan than I am in Penn State's ability to win its next three games, even if two of them are Rutgers or Michigan State. Chance: 40 percent
No. 18 Nebraska (8-2, 5-2 Big Ten)
Best win(s): at Northwestern Wildcats , at Indiana Hoosiers | Losses: at No. 7 Wisconsin, at No. 2 Ohio State
Remaining games (must-wins): vs. Maryland Terrapins , at Iowa Hawkeyes
What needs to happen: It's an extreme longshot, but Nebraska does have a path. The biggest problem is it has no impressive wins, and its only chance to get one would be to win the Big Ten title game. For that to happen, it needs to win its final two games and have Wisconsin to lose to either Purdue or Minnesota. Then Nebraska would need to beat either Michigan, Ohio State or Penn State in the Big Ten title game. The ideal scenario would be for Michigan to lose to Indiana, then beat Ohio State while Penn State wins its final two games. Then, if Nebraska beats Penn State in Indianapolis, there wouldn't be a Big Ten team with fewer than two losses, and Nebraska would be the conference's champion. Mix in some chaos in the Pac-12 and Big 12 (Washington and Oklahoma losses would be helpful), Alabama winning the SEC and anybody but Clemson Tigers or Louisville Cardinals winning the ACC, and the Huskers have a chance!
Will they get in? Well, if you just read what needs to happen, you know the chances aren't good. Chance: 2 percent
No. 13 Southern California (7-3, 6-2 Pac-12)
Best win(s): at No. 6 Washington, vs. No. 10 Colorado | Losses: vs. No. 1 Alabama, at No. 24 Stanford, at No. 12 Utah
Remaining games (must-wins): at UCLA Bruins , vs. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
What needs to happen: USC would need a lot of help, but it has one big thing working in its favor: It's USC. It also doesn't hurt that it has two top-10 wins and all three of its losses have come to teams that are currently ranked.
USC needs to win the Pac-12, however, and that's not a simple proposition. It has the tiebreaker over Colorado, but not Utah, so ideally the Buffaloes lose to Washington State and then beat Utah while USC wins out. That leaves both USC and Colorado at 7-2, and USC moves on. Then if USC beats Washington (Washington State could work, too, but the Huskies would be a lot better) again in a Pac-12 title game rematch, it has a very strong case, even for a three-loss team. Like its Pac-12 counterparts we've already gone over, Alabama winning the SEC, Michigan or Ohio State winning the Big Ten, Oklahoma State winning the Big 12, and neither Clemson nor Louisville winning the ACC would help a lot, too. In fact, all of those things may be mandatory.
Will they get in? I don't think it's insane to imagine USC winning the Pac-12, but all that other stuff? Yeah, that's probably not going to happen. Chance: 0.5 percent
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...er-underdogs-to-the-college-football-playoff/
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gee, wonder what it is like to be totally blindsided by Houston in a blink of an eye when all seems well and in order?...just cannot imagine that....
I'd have to disagree with that. First off, we pounded Iowa, a team that is ranked higher than you in many of the rankings. We beat OSU, which is probably the best win in college football this year. Also, 8 of the 10 teams we've played have a record above .500, which is tied for most among the top 10 ranked teams (Alabama is the only other team tied with us for most). Got a ways to go yet obviously, but if (I know, BIG IF) we can win out and get the BIGTen title, it would be hard for the committee to leave out the champ of the best conference in college football this year.
Iowa - higher than us? At least we didn't lose to NDSU at home, and despite a bad Miami loss on the road lost to 3 other good teams by a combined 11 pts. And two top ten wins (one being on the road). Hard to say Iowa has a better resume, easier to say whoever has them higher has some Big Ten bias.
Best HOME win in college football maybe yeah. Obviously you guys got a hell of a home field advantage and I wasn't totally shocked.
I mean in terms of the whole beating a bunch of teams over .500... that's where we're really splitting hairs, arguing oh those teams on your schedule above .500 aren't that good and were mostly at home, blah blah blah.
So with all this said, I've come to peace with the fact PSU has had an overall very successful year so far and give them credit, there's still something to be said about how consistent they've been, taking care of business. Just gotta keep that going for 2 more games and then who knows? Things have really fallen into place for them.
When I found myself shocked initially once PSU cracked the top ten, I looked at the resumes of other schools and understood it. Just so much parity in college football this year.
I'm starting to think the ACC is a tad bit overrated. Louisville is not the team that everyone thought they were - their only big win was against a mediocre FSU team. Clemson should have lost twice before being upset at home against us. V-Tech and UNC both have bad losses and at one point in the season Miami had lost 4 straight games.
Maybe the top of the ACC isn't as good as everyone thought, but as a whole (top to bottom) the conference is mediocre to above average? Meaning that there are no REALLY BAD teams (i.e. a rutgers or purdue) but a bunch of teams that are right about the average line (virginia, duke, fsu, miami, tech, unc, louisville, etc.). I'm not sure what to think.
Maybe the top of the ACC isn't as good as everyone thought, but as a whole (top to bottom) the conference is mediocre to above average? Meaning that there are no REALLY BAD teams (i.e. a rutgers or purdue) but a bunch of teams that are right about the average line (virginia, duke, fsu, miami, tech, unc, louisville, etc.). I'm not sure what to think.
That peachy Paterno must be laced with something.
Stick to being black in State College. You're better at that.
Disagree all you want... you're wrong.... and if you think beating Ohio State at home in a rainstorm is "better" than beating Clemson at Death Valley in perfect conditions you are completely clueless...and need to get out more obviously. Yeah PSU is really close to Bama??? LOLZ...
What are you talking about!?!? The only teams you have played that have an above .500 record are Pitt, Temple, Michigan, OSU, Minnesota and Iowa. That is SIX teams that have above .500 records. The rest are .500 or below. You lost to the only two above .500 teams you played on the road! You have Rutgers and MSU left and neither team will have a winning record whether they win out or not.
Pitt has played PSU, Oklahoma State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Miami, and Georgia Tech. All of which have above .500 records and beat #2 on the road vs your beating #2 at home in bad weather. That is not even close to the best win in college football. I would say beating #2 on the road where Clemson had not lost in 3 years is a better win than beating #2 at home during a clan-out.
You PoSU people I swear are like children.
Pitt has played PSU, Oklahoma State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Miami, and Georgia Tech. All of which have above .500 records and beat #2 on the road vs your beating #2 at home in bad weather. That is not even close to the best win in college football. I would say beating #2 on the road where Clemson had not lost in 3 years is a better win than beating #2 at home during a clan-out.
You PoSU people I swear are like children.
You just described the Big East from 2003 - 2010. No real bad teams, bunch of solid teams, but no elite talent. Unfortunately everyone always judges the conference by the top and not the bottom, so no one cares that the Big 10 has absolute garbage in Rutgers, Purdue and Indiana. And their middle teams like Maryland, Indiana and Northwestern would be in the bottom half of the ACC. They just see OSU, Michigan and Wisky beating LSU and they proclaim it to be a rock solid conference.
What I love about this board: Only a 'Houston/Louisville' thread could so quickly turn into a Pitt/Clemson and PSU/OSU thread.
Lots of good points made though, of course, all subjective. Not sure why there is so much anger from the fan base though.
We beat Clemson AT Clemson. You beat tOSU AT HOME. I think our win is "the best win in college football this year".
Sorry. Take off the blinders.
None of it matters for Penn State because they are losing to either Rutgers or MSU. Just wait for it.
It is like Lions blinding BuckEyes bad Kicking as some QBs make big mistakes in Death Valley getting a Clemsoning with some great Panthers out clawing other Cats and finishing it off with some cougars eating some Cardinals cooing and now all await whether some Mountaineers can beat up some Sooners this Saturday, as Wolverines, Spartans, Badgers, Corn Huskers, Lions, and blurry Buckeyes decide how many Big Ten teams get into the Playoffs. All the while, chaos rules among Huskies, Buffalos, Cougars and maybe just maybe Trojans Horses still waiting to see if they can get in too?
Right now many think it is
BAMA, MICHIGAN, CLEMSON and WASHINGTON or OHIO STATE!
First of all we beat state penn we are 2 - 0 in the state you are 1 - 1 we are the best team in Pa the cream has risen to the top. And in no way was psu win over OSU bigger then Pitts win over Clemson, the big 10 is not that strong, with a schedule that builds up some teams in the win column like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, northwestern, Iowa is not that good, MSU not that good only maybe OSU, Wisconsin, Michigan are the best teams MSU, psu beat OSU but it was on that given day, OSU would beat psu the other 9 out of the 10 games, Pitt beat Clemson because nobody yet has stopped their offense not even pus,
Sometimes elite talent loses. Louisville laid an egg last night, no doubt about it. There is no way they should have lost to a Houston team who has struggled in the last three games against mediocre teams, losing to SMU. They were overconfident and unprepared. I think they are probably still a top 10 team after the weekend. Clemson is still solidly a top 4 team.
I also think the conference is poised for greater things to come. Swinney has built a powerhouse and FSU obviously climbed back from their mediocrity of the late Bowden years. I only expect Louisville to continue to improve if Petrino can stay out of trouble. And there are a whole lot of other teams poised to make the jump to the next level, us included.
I think the current ACC compares favorably to the Big East shortly before all of the conference defections. Clemson is what Miami was to that conference, just as Louisville is what VTech was. Difference is the ACC today has way more depth than the Big East ever had.
So now we have some good debate in here on which conference is better/the best, ACC, B10 (add in SEC, PAC10, B12). It all just reinforces why we need an 8-team playoff with the 5 P5 conf champs and 3 at-large. When every team is playing 8 or 9 conference games and all but 1 or 2 of everyone's OOC games are against lightweight teams they should beat, there really isn't enough direct on-the-field results to really say who the best conference is.
As one poster alluded to above, what determines the best/better conference, the one with a number of good but not elite teams or one with a few elite teams but also a number of below average/mediocre teams.
As one poster alluded to above, what determines the best/better conference, the one with a number of good but not elite teams or one with a few elite teams but also a number of below average/mediocre teams.
The truth is making sweeping generalizations about which conferences are better than others, our top/bottom teams are better than your top/bottom teams, if we had their schedule we'd be 8-2, they'd be 2-8, etc etc, is nothing but mental masturbation. There is a lot of parity outside the top few programs and things shuffle and change constantly and vary widely from year to year. Very few teams are so strong that they can count on beating another P5 team in their own league on any given day. Alabama under Saban stands alone as the consistent juggernaut of college football. Also, as some posters have pointed out over the years, results in college football/basketball are not transitive. Just because we beat PSU and Clemson does not mean we wouldn't get blown out by Ohio State. Likewise, just because we lost badly to Miami doesn't mean we couldn't upset an Ohio State, and so on.
No one other than Alabama is real good. OSU lost at psu and barely beat NW and Indiana. The same indiana team that wake forest beat. There are a lot of good teams but not much difference between 2 and 10. Same way with 10 through 40 not much difference.
Acc is good. Now BC and VA are not any better than a purdue(RU looks like the worst P5 team) I think Duke and SU are a small step above that level. NC, VT are good teams, they are top 25 teams. GT is pretty good as well. Basically the ACC has NC, VT, louisville as 10 to 25 type of teams. clemson is a step above that and GT,Miami and Pitt are just a bit behind those 3. Thats 7 teams that are probably in the top 35 in the country. And the next group aren't horrible teams 8-10 are probably somewhere around 45 to 55.
AGree completely. Its impossible to tell if PSU is better than louisville or if pitt is better than Iowa. These teams don' t play many common opponents. I do think that most of the b10 loads up on cupcakes OOC, other than osu and MI, and then you have teams like MN who is 7-3 and hasn't beaten a team thats any good. Now PSU/MI/OSU fans will claim that 7-3 MN is good.
If you give the P5 conferences a autobid then its played out on the field. You have 3 at large which can go to a team this year like OSU that only has one loss, I would also like to see one spot go to a group of 5 school if they meet certain criteria(say they finish in the AP top 10 they are in)
Rutgers and Kansas should play at the end of the year for that honor.
The CFP doesn't compile such an rating.
LMAO.
They make up their own facts everywhere else, why should this be any different?
I'm sorry, but I don't see a way PSU loses to MSU or Wisconsin. No, I'm going to throw up again...
We shall see? To be fair, they have won 5 straight games since losing to Pitt & Michigan and they are favored to beat RU & MSU!
This is spot on. Clemson has the talent to be really good, for whatever reason, they lack focus and a killer instinct, which is normal for a Dabo coached team.
I'm not sure about MSU, but they could easily lose to Wisconsin. In fact, if PSU doesn't get healthier on the OL, they could get hammered by Wisconsin.
It won't be Buttgers, that's the worst team in any P5 league, but they could certainly lose to MSU on the wrong day. Any PSU fan who doesn't think that's possible is a moron.
