I dont believe there is actually a team tournament. For someone like me who has very little knowledge on the sport, can you explain this to me?
I have seen several sports about growing the sport.Originally posted by thom67:
The wrestling NCAA championships happen every March. The team champion is decided by the points scored by each wrestler for any given team. The points are given by the place( 1st, 2nd etc) each wrestler finishes, points for winning each Match and bonus points for pins and major decisions. Those points are totaled up and the team with the most points wins. It is important for a team to have as many wrestlers qualify as possible and have good wrestlers at many different weight classes.
The bracketed tournament is an individual tournament though, not a team tournament. All it seems like it is is an individual tournament with some scoring system to decide which team had the most wrestlers do well and that team is awarded the title of National Champions. Seems kind of an odd way of determining a National Championship team but like I said, I know nothing about the sport, so I dont mean to be disrespectful. Just seems odd like that NASCAR scoring system.......which again I dont know anything about.Originally posted by CrazyPaco:
It is a bracketed tournament, but it is based on individual advancement. You need top national wrestlers, All-Americans, to advance to the stage where they score points, so it is pretty different than dual meets were you just need a cadre of wrestlers that better than your opponent's wrestlers, not necessarily the very top in the nation at their weight class. Pitt's #8 ranking is based on dual meet scoring, while some of its other rankings where it is in the teens are based on the projected finishes at NCAAs...eg, how many wrestlers do you have that can score points for you at NCAAs and what is your projected score there.
There is a movement in the NCAA to add a dual meet championship component to the current, more individual-heavy national championship scoring format, but I don't know where that proposal is right now.
Right, it is really an individual tournament. Not a whole lot different than how track & field or swimming and diving is set up for individual champions where team points are awarded for All-American finishes in order to compile team standings. In T&F, you need only a few studs to place decently at NCAAs or other big invites. Depth through all events isn't nearly important because dual meets have all but disappeared. Luckily, dual meets are still very much alive in wrestling.Originally posted by Sean Miller Fan:
The bracketed tournament is an individual tournament though, not a team tournament. All it seems like it is is an individual tournament with some scoring system to decide which team had the most wrestlers do well and that team is awarded the title of National Champions. Seems kind of an odd way of determining a National Championship team but like I said, I know nothing about the sport, so I dont mean to be disrespectful. Just seems odd like that NASCAR scoring system.......which again I dont know anything about.
I wasnt at the Pitt/OKST meet but I read about it. To me, I think that is what the sport is missing. Lets say that's an NCAA Regional Final Meet. The meet goes down to the Heavyweights. Winner take all. Those 2 guys determine whether their team moves on. Now, imagine, one of the wresters is a top guy in the nation and the other is average to below average. How awesome would it be if there was a major upset in a match like that? To me, that's what the sport needs.
This post was edited on 1/28 3:42 PM by Sean Miller Fan