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How low was the Steelers' offer if Boyd Signed for $4.5 at Tennessee?

Isn’t it more a statement of what Boyd’s perceived market value is among NFL teams, not anything specific to the Steelers.

Every team has limited resources due to the salary cap, looks like that was all anyone was willing to pay for Boyd.
 
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The story was they offered 2 years, $10 million and he walked. Maybe he thinks he can take slightly less on a one year deal and make more next year although it did take a long time for him to sign so who knows.
 
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The story was they offered 2 years, $10 million and he walked. Maybe he thinks he can take slightly less on a one year deal and make more next year although it did take a long time for him to sign so who knows.
I hope that wasn’t his thinking, he’s got to know at his age he’s unlikely to hit it big.
 
The story was they offered 2 years, $10 million and he walked. Maybe he thinks he can take slightly less on a one year deal and make more next year although it did take a long time for him to sign so who knows.


It's a lot more likely that he turned down 2 years and $10 million (if that was ever really on the table) because he thought he was going to get more. So the Stillers moved on. And then Boyd found out that he wasn't, in fact, going to get more. But by then the Stillers weren't interested.
 
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Boyd signed for 4.5 now because options were growing short. The Steelers along with other teams offered more than that a while back and Boyd rejected them. Word was he was holding out for 8 million early in the process. The Steelers offered in the range of 5 million and refused to go higher. I can’t prove this but that was the rumor at the time.
 
Boyd can't play outside WR and Arthur Smith runs an offense from 1996 where his slot WR doesn't play much. Adding Boyd never made much sense.
His slot WR doesn't play much? I guess that is why they went out and drafted a slot receiver in the 3rd round.
 
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His slot WR doesn't play much? I guess that is why they went out and drafted a slot receiver in the 3rd round.
Steelers are making a lot of shrewd moves this year. Seems they are betting heavily on that defense and a run game. This might not age well in a conference with the Chiefs, Bengals, Dolphins, Bills etc. I hate the Steelers but this city is like a morgue when they lose. They have brought so much attention to their selves this offseason if this crashes and burns the public outcry will be epic. Can you picture fire Tomlin chants at Acrisure 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Do we know for certain that the Steelers made an offer? I'm real leery of what comes out regarding this team.
 
It's a lot more likely that he turned down 2 years and $10 million (if that was ever really on the table) because he thought he was going to get more. So the Stillers moved on. And then Boyd found out that he wasn't, in fact, going to get more. But by then the Stillers weren't interested.
We have a bunch of cheaper and faster slot receivers .
We need a WR1/2 to pair with Pickens and the handful of slots we have .
 
I don't think they've done anything bold or crazy at all. They have next to nothing invested in these quarterbacks, and they got rid of a headcase receiver in exchange for a position they needed anyway. Pretty standard offseason, and that includes the Pickett ordeal. Teams are giving up on young QBs at a higher rate than ever before these days.
 
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I don't think they've done anything bold or crazy at all. They have next to nothing invested in these quarterbacks, and they got rid of a headcase receiver in exchange for a position they needed anyway. Pretty standard offseason, and that includes the Pickett ordeal. Teams are giving up on young QBs at a higher rate than ever before these days.
The problem is giving up an additional year of a rookie deal for a qb to trade for a young qb due a 5th year option this season .
Its not good business
Nor is taking the dead cap space for Dionte for a year while he plays somewhere else taking up 2.26% of the 2024 cap.
 
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Do we know for certain that the Steelers made an offer? I'm real leery of what comes out regarding this team.
It's all wordplay. Even if there was no official "offer", both sides knew what the other was looking for.

Boyd overplayed his hand a bit, it would seem. They drafted a wide receiver who seemingly loves to block, and plays in the slot. I would guess that they are happy with the way things played out. And Boyd didn't get the deal he was hoping for, and instead needs to produce this year. Let's hope he does.

They still need another outside WR, and Boyd wasn't that guy anyhow. But it's a problem that they need to solve.
 
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It's all wordplay. Even if there was no official "offer", both sides knew what the other was looking for.

Boyd overplayed his hand a bit, it would seem. They drafted a wide receiver who seemingly loves to block, and plays in the slot. I would guess that they are happy with the way things played out. And Boyd didn't get the deal he was hoping for, and instead needs to produce this year. Let's hope he does.

They still need another outside WR, and Boyd wasn't that guy anyhow. But it's a problem that they need to solve.
"It's all wordplay" - what does that even mean? Either they have an offer on the table or they don't - we can talk until the cows come home - if there's no agreement/contract on the table then everything else is nonsense.
 
I don't think they've done anything bold or crazy at all. They have next to nothing invested in these quarterbacks, and they got rid of a headcase receiver in exchange for a position they needed anyway. Pretty standard offseason, and that includes the Pickett ordeal. Teams are giving up on young QBs at a higher rate than ever before these days.
Totally agree - all this the Steelers are doing things differently is WAY overblown!
 
"It's all wordplay" - what does that even mean? Either they have an offer on the table or they don't - we can talk until the cows come home - if there's no agreement/contract on the table then everything else is nonsense.
They didn’t have an offer
It’s that simple
It was only Twitter clickbait
Just like Aiyuk and others.
 
Boyd can't play outside WR and Arthur Smith runs an offense from 1996 where his slot WR doesn't play much. Adding Boyd never made much sense.
Yeah, pretty much every WR they added was a sub 4.5 guy.
 
The problem is giving up an additional year of a rookie deal for a qb to trade for a young qb due a 5th year option this season .
Its not good business
Nor is taking the dead cap space for Dionte for a year while he plays somewhere else taking up 2.26% of the 2024 cap.

That cap hit is a teardrop in the ocean when you're not paying a quarterback. Teams have dead cap hits that are at least that large all the time.
 
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His slot WR doesn't play much? I guess that is why they went out and drafted a slot receiver in the 3rd round.
I have to imagine that he's going to utilize it more than his prior stops considering they would be wasting a 3rd round pick otherwise.
 
I actually like what the Steelers are doing. They've done nothing overly-stupid that would signify a lack of self-awareness that they think they're contenders this season, yet they've left the door open enough that they can contend if all the chips fall just right (i.e. it's not like they've traded Watt, etc. and went complete fire sale mode).

At the same time, they're solidifying positions of need and rebuilding this thing from the ground up. Next year, you hit the defense hard in the draft. They're doing what should have been started a few years ago.
 
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That cap hit is a teardrop in the ocean when you're not paying a quarterback. Teams have dead cap hits that are at least that large all the time.
Well when combined with Donte’s deal -
There isn’t cap savings ($6mil) plus $5.6mil dead cap for Dionte for 2024
And Donte is UFA next season .

Not sure how weakening an offense which struggled is a net positive
Donte is a nickel corner anymore .
 
Well when combined with Donte’s deal -
There isn’t cap savings ($6mil) plus $5.6mil dead cap for Dionte for 2024
And Donte is UFA next season .

Not sure how weakening an offense which struggled is a net positive
Donte is a nickel corner anymore .
But let me say - Omar has earned the benefit of the doubt so far -
His two drafts were masterful
 
Well when combined with Donte’s deal -
There isn’t cap savings ($6mil) plus $5.6mil dead cap for Dionte for 2024
And Donte is UFA next season .

Not sure how weakening an offense which struggled is a net positive
Donte is a nickel corner anymore .
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure they're only out like a million or two in net, aren't they? Johnson was something like $10M additional against the cap if they kept him, whereas Jackson is $6M. So a $5.6 dead cap hit combined with $4M cheaper is a $1.6M net loss. Again, going off memory.

Either way, we are talking about peanuts when you're not paying a quarterback. It was more or less a change of scenery trade. I do think Johnson is the slightly more valuable piece, but we also swapped a 6th for a 7th. I'm not claiming the offense is better, but what would our CB situation be if we hadn't made the trade? As it stands, we got rid of a dolt and now need one CB and one WR as opposed to needing two CBs.
 
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It's all wordplay. Even if there was no official "offer", both sides knew what the other was looking for.

Boyd overplayed his hand a bit, it would seem. They drafted a wide receiver who seemingly loves to block, and plays in the slot. I would guess that they are happy with the way things played out. And Boyd didn't get the deal he was hoping for, and instead needs to produce this year. Let's hope he does.

They still need another outside WR, and Boyd wasn't that guy anyhow. But it's a problem that they need to solve.
Pretty spot on, particularly needing another outside WR and Boyd not being that guy. They got the slot guy they needed in the draft, remains to be seen if or when he might be more productive than a Boyd. Still need to find a #1 or 2 to go with Pickens.
 
Not as stupid as you might think. SMF has made some stupid ones in the past, but I tend to agree with him on this one.
Really, you agree with him that they would have signed Boyd if he was from PSU or WVU. Based on what??? It’s not like the Steelers shy away from ex-Pitt players but gravitate to PSU and WVU players.

I’m glad they drafted Zach Frazier and also glad they signed Beanie Bishop as an UDFA. I guess that means they gravitate to WVU over Pitt.
 
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