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I have a legitimate question.

This idea that because you are in a gang that automatically should disqualify you of your rights is also problematic. Many people are forced against their will to be initiated into a gang. One of the fundamental principles of this country and any DEMOCRACY is due process. Even murderers get their due process rights
 
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This idea that because you are in a gang that automatically should disqualify you of your rights is also problematic. Many people are forced against their will to be initiated into a gang. One of the fundamental principles of this country and any DEMOCRACY is due process. Even murderers get their due process rights
He was given his due process in 2019 when the court rejected his claim for asylum. He was immediately eligible for deportation. ICE chose not to act then but that did not take away their ability to do so at any time. The only mistake was violating the order not to send him to El Salvador. If he does get back to the ISA, he will be here about 2 minutes before he gets deported somewhere else.
 
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He was given his due process in 2019 when the court rejected his claim for asylum. He was immediately eligible for deportation. ICE chose not to act then but that did not take away their ability to do so at any time. The only mistake was violating the order not to send him to El Salvador. If he does get back to the ISA, he will be here about 2 minutes before he gets deported somewhere else.
I believe he had due process twice. The more I read up on this, the more it’s looking like this is yet another wrong side of a hoax for Dems.
 
Gotta love all the libs who have more compassion for illegals than the hundreds of people who have been assaulted raped and murdered by illegals.
 
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And voting for a rapist felon...today's maga RINOs: no morals or values.
He absolutely is no rapist felon, that's a disgusting miscarriage of justice. That alone should lose dems elections for at least next president. That lawfare was 3rd world. As far as returning that illegal immigrant, he should be brought back because scotus was 9-0 to bring him back. His case can be debated in the courts.
 
He absolutely is no rapist felon, that's a disgusting miscarriage of justice. That alone should lose dems elections for at least next president. That lawfare was 3rd world. As far as returning that illegal immigrant, he should be brought back because scotus was 9-0 to bring him back. His case can be debated in the courts.

Just type "I'm in a cult" the next time. It will save you a bunch of keystrokes.
 
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Rachel Morins Mom does the impossible. She leaves the media speechless. These are the animals the left is defending

We've walked the trail for the last 25 years that we've lived in Maryland. It's a safe place for our family. It's where we go to get a little bit of New England, because that's where we're from, New England. When she went on that trail that day, she was not planning on dying. She wasn't planning on walking to her death. She was planning on going to the grocery store with her girls afterwards. Victor Martinez, he waited for her. He waited for her to come closer. He saw her. He saw that there was nobody around. He attacked her.
He dragged her 150 feet, blood gushing from her head. It left 150-foot trail of her blood to the culverts where he took… He picked her up. He threw her against the wall of the tunnel, and he raped her. But before he did that, he stopped on that trail and rocks still stained with her blood, he used them to hammer her head against those rocks. They say 20, at least 20 times they could count the cuts in her head.
They said that when they did the autopsy, and I've seen the pictures, there's a 6-inch square in the back of her head where the skull is shattered the way that you would crush an eggshell, in pieces. Three-fourths of her brain hemorrhaged. Her right and left side of her face bashed in.
Her beautiful face bashed in. Her head bashed in. Broken bones, fractures. He takes and he drags her some more. He drags her through the thorn bushes. She has all these scrapes and cuts on her body. There wasn't one inch of her body that didn't have some kind of injury, whether it's bruising, um, broken bones, contusions, the scratches.
She had a, um, fractured rib, a fractured nose, fractured skull. And then he takes her into the tunnel, and he picks her up. He throws her against the wall. Blood is gushing from her head. Her hair is soaked in blood. And they showed us pictures of her body against the wall, outlined, the blood outlined her body, and you could see where the blood ran down around her as he was raping her.
And then he threw her down and raped her some more. And then he strangled her because he didn't want her to be able to live to tell the story. They said that when they did the autopsy on her neck, that one of the things they do is they open up the neck and they look to see how far the injury is. And it went all the way down as far as an injury is possible, hemorrhaging in the muscles because of how, um, strong and violent the grip was around her.

Her final statement? "Why does that person have more right than I do, or my daughter, or my grandchildren?"

Leavitt asked if anyone had any questions, but the press room was so stunned that barely anyone spoke. As the two women were walking about of the room, Patty turned to the media and said the words, "Tell the truth."


 
I believe he had due process twice. The more I read up on this, the more it’s looking like this is yet another wrong side of a hoax for Dems.
Tell me you don’t understand due process without telling me you don’t understand due process.

He was granted protection against removal to El Salvador in late 2019. Trump’s first action in 2025 was to remove him to El Salvador, you ****ing sheep.
 
Tell me you don’t understand due process without telling me you don’t understand due process.

He was granted protection against removal to El Salvador in late 2019. Trump’s first action in 2025 was to remove him to El Salvador, you ****ing sheep.
Oh Sarah. As I said, just another hoax and issue that you guy are in the wrong side of. Again and again. Aren’t you getting tired of this?

 
He was given his due process in 2019 when the court rejected his claim for asylum. He was immediately eligible for deportation. ICE chose not to act then but that did not take away their ability to do so at any time. The only mistake was violating the order not to send him to El Salvador. If he does get back to the ISA, he will be here about 2 minutes before he gets deported somewhere else.
Can you “be given due process” more than once?

The immigration court (not a criminal court) in 2019 also granted him protection against removal to El Salvador, a detail which you conveniently leave out.

Now ICE not only sends him to El Salvador against two separate orders telling them not to, but they also sent him to prison there without any evidence of a crime, a trial, a jury, or a verdict. Trump and his admin are shitting on the constitution which you dishonest, deplorable people used to cherish.

You are correct that he will never be allowed back into this country while MAGA is in charge.
 
Oh Sarah. As I said, just another hoax and issue that you guy are in the wrong side of. Again and again. Aren’t you getting tired of this?

I don’t get my news from bad comedians. You’re still missing the point about Trump shitting all over the constitution. Remember that thing you deplorables used to cherish?

“…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”
 
The immigration court (not a criminal court) in 2019 also granted him protection against removal to El Salvador, a detail which you conveniently leave out.
I specifically stated that "detail" in my post.
 
I don’t get my news from bad comedians. You’re still missing the point about Trump shitting all over the constitution. Remember that thing you deplorables used to cherish?

“…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”
The SC disagrees with you.
 
Yeah Trump using that poor woman as a political prop is disgusting, but typical....just like trotting out the cancer stricken little black kid during His Congressional address.
So you care more about illegal shit bags than American citizens whose lives were taken by these shit bags. Not surprising
 
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He picked up 7 dudes in Texas to drive them to Maryland with no license. If you find yourself in Texas with no license and 7 dudes you have to drive to Maryland you are probably human trafficking for your gang. FBI released a car full of illegals w/ no license they are such a great unit. When some little paper is throwing haymakers at a national news story you know you are dealing with heavy propaganda. DEI squad is hypnotized by blue light tek and eats up the propaganda, whines about X because uncensored speech damages them
 
It doesn't have to be either or. Either you want illegals deported without due process or you "hate America".

I just want to ensure we are all following due process and that's more American than anything.
 
So you care more about illegal shit bags than American citizens whose lives were taken by these shit bags. Not surprising
These are the heroes of the left in 2025. Seriously. Why do they pick the wrong side of every issue?
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He picked up 7 dudes in Texas to drive them to Maryland with no license. If you find yourself in Texas with no license and 7 dudes you have to drive to Maryland you are probably human trafficking for your gang. FBI released a car full of illegals w/ no license they are such a great unit. When some little paper is throwing haymakers at a national news story you know you are dealing with heavy propaganda. DEI squad is hypnotized by blue light tek and eats up the propaganda, whines about X because uncensored speech damages them
Then follow the constitution and prove it in a court of law. All people within the United States are entitled to due process. This isn’t a difficult concept that you deplorables used to embrace before you joined the cult of Trump.

Would you be concerned if Trump took away a legal resident’s legal gun stash?
 
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"Heroes"?
Well they are erecting statues, raising hundreds of millions for their defense, using tax payer dollars to fly to El Salvador, what’s a better word for drug addicts, murderers and wife beating gang bangin human traffickers?

the media and the leftist politicians are telling you guys to care about these bad actors and it dominates the news cycle. Why don’t they tell you to worry about Liken Riley? There’s some crazy social manipulation going on here. Why do Dems not respect families and honor victims in the House chamber, but they obsess over thugs and their politicians follow the thugs to El Salvador.
 
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It doesn't have to be either or. Either you want illegals deported without due process or you "hate America".

I just want to ensure we are all following due process and that's more American than anything.
No one was worried about due process when they were allowed and in many cases assisted in coming he illegally. Where was the due process for the people whose lives were ruined by these scum

Due process is your captured you are proven to have entered illegallly your deported.

This would not even be an issue if again they were assisted in coming into the US illegally.
 
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Then follow the constitution and prove it in a court of law. All people within the United States are entitled to due process. This isn’t a difficult concept that you deplorables used to embrace before you joined the cult of Trump.

Would you be concerned if Trump took away a legal resident’s legal gun stash?
When you shove 21 million aliens into the country I have no desire to give them due process. I get it, you think I only think this way 'because Trump' but I am an individual with my own thoughts and opinions. If the constitution demands it they can have an expedited trial that lasts under 5 seconds where the judge asks the public defendant if so and so was a legal citizen, defendant says no, they lose. More of a formality than a trial, because this is an open/close issue.
 
I don’t get my news from bad comedians. You’re still missing the point about Trump shitting all over the constitution. Remember that thing you deplorables used to cherish?

“…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”
I respect you for arguing your point instead of playing "serial laughing emoticon dropper" like many others on here. Two points are worthy of mention here.

1. What constitutes due process varies by situation. If a non citizen enters the country unlawfully, he doesn't get the same process as he's being deported under a civil offense as a citizen arrested for a criminal offense gets.

2. A court exists to review the facts in a case brought before it and then apply the law pertaining to the alleged offense, and ensure the proceedings are fair. Then it renders an opinion or order specific for the facts and the law that exist at that specific time.

So, If an immigration court decides that an immigrant may remain in the country, that doesn't mean it cant later change its determination due to a new set of facts or changes made to the applicable laws.

The point to take away here is that a decision by an immigration judge in 2019 isn't relevant now. That works both ways too, so if facts have changed, the actor may now be due even "more" process.

A lot of these debates should be case based, i.e. what were the facts then vs now and what is the applicable law now vs back then, but we just cite news headlines.
Sadly, our increasingly convoluted legal system has deteriorated to the point that it lacks legitimacy, and subsequently our court decisions now lack legitimacy. Not good. It has created the situation we find ourselves in presently. Get your guy elected to do whatever he can get away with.

The Dems had their turn. We'll see what Trump can get away with. Welcome to Game of Thrones.

Burn it down.
 
When you shove 21 million aliens into the country I have no desire to give them due process. I get it, you think I only think this way 'because Trump' but I am an individual with my own thoughts and opinions. If the constitution demands it they can have an expedited trial that lasts under 5 seconds where the judge asks the public defendant if so and so was a legal citizen, defendant says no, they lose. More of a formality than a trial, because this is an open/close issue.
But they didn’t do that with these people. They acted as law enforcement, judge and jury. You either follow the constitution or not. Trump has chosen against the constitution for the sake of expediency and that should scare everyone.
 
Please explain how the SC disagrees “with me”. Are you saying they disagree with the 5th amendment?
They ruled on the planeloads sent to El Salvador and didn't say a word about the 5th amendment.
 
I respect you for arguing your point instead of playing "serial laughing emoticon dropper" like many others on here. Two points are worthy of mention here.

1. What constitutes due process varies by situation. If a non citizen enters the country unlawfully, he doesn't get the same process as he's being deported under a civil offense as a citizen arrested for a criminal offense gets.

2. A court exists to review the facts in a case brought before it and then apply the law pertaining to the alleged offense, and ensure the proceedings are fair. Then it renders an opinion or order specific for the facts and the law that exist at that specific time.

So, If an immigration court decides that an immigrant may remain in the country, that doesn't mean it cant later change its determination due to a new set of facts or changes made to the applicable laws.

The point to take away here is that a decision by an immigration judge in 2019 isn't relevant now. That works both ways too, so if facts have changed, the actor may now be due even "more" process.

A lot of these debates should be case based, i.e. what were the facts then vs now and what is the applicable law now vs back then, but we just cite news headlines.
Sadly, our increasingly convoluted legal system has deteriorated to the point that it lacks legitimacy, and subsequently our court decisions now lack legitimacy. Not good. It has created the situation we find ourselves in presently. Get your guy elected to do whatever he can get away with.

The Dems had their turn. We'll see what Trump can get away with. Welcome to Game of Thrones.

Burn it down.
While I generally agree with you I also agree with the thought below

 
I respect you for arguing your point instead of playing "serial laughing emoticon dropper" like many others on here. Two points are worthy of mention here.

1. What constitutes due process varies by situation. If a non citizen enters the country unlawfully, he doesn't get the same process as he's being deported under a civil offense as a citizen arrested for a criminal offense gets.

2. A court exists to review the facts in a case brought before it and then apply the law pertaining to the alleged offense, and ensure the proceedings are fair. Then it renders an opinion or order specific for the facts and the law that exist at that specific time.

So, If an immigration court decides that an immigrant may remain in the country, that doesn't mean it cant later change its determination due to a new set of facts or changes made to the applicable laws.

The point to take away here is that a decision by an immigration judge in 2019 isn't relevant now. That works both ways too, so if facts have changed, the actor may now be due even "more" process.

A lot of these debates should be case based, i.e. what were the facts then vs now and what is the applicable law now vs back then, but we just cite news headlines.
Sadly, our increasingly convoluted legal system has deteriorated to the point that it lacks legitimacy, and subsequently our court decisions now lack legitimacy. Not good. It has created the situation we find ourselves in presently. Get your guy elected to do whatever he can get away with.

The Dems had their turn. We'll see what Trump can get away with. Welcome to Game of Thrones.

Burn it down.
1) I agree that the level of due process varies, but there was NO due process here. ICE took on the roll of judge and jury. And instead of treating it as a civil matter (deportation), they sent this man to prison (criminal) for life with no evidence, no trial, no justice. And they did it in spite of an existing court order protecting him from deportation (civil) to El Salvador in general.

2) The Dems didn’t have their “turn”. The Biden administration didn’t do anything that violated the constitution, and if ANY court told them they had they would reverse their action. The legal system lacks legitimacy only because the Trump administration is intentionally undermining it. That is super dangerous.
 
But they didn’t do that with these people. They acted as law enforcement, judge and jury. You either follow the constitution or not. Trump has chosen against the constitution for the sake of expediency and that should scare everyone.
When you say things like 'that should scare everyone' you are just telling me you are brainwashed. My concern is our lack of manufacturing combined with the 2030 wef agenda and ai plus 21 million immigrants thrown in our backyard while we dumb down our society to be more 'inclusive' aka fill racial quotas without being loud about it
 
When you say things like 'that should scare everyone' you are just telling me you are brainwashed. My concern is our lack of manufacturing combined with the 2030 wef agenda and ai plus 21 million immigrants thrown in our backyard while we dumb down our society to be more 'inclusive' aka fill racial quotas without being loud about it
Yup

 
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1) I agree that the level of due process varies, but there was NO due process here. ICE took on the roll of judge and jury. And instead of treating it as a civil matter (deportation), they sent this man to prison (criminal) for life with no evidence, no trial, no justice. And they did it in spite of an existing court order protecting him from deportation (civil) to El Salvador in general.

2) The Dems didn’t have their “turn”. The Biden administration didn’t do anything that violated the constitution, and if ANY court told them they had they would reverse their action. The legal system lacks legitimacy only because the Trump administration is intentionally undermining it. That is super dangerous.
You mean like Biden followed the scotus ruling on college loan forgiveness ?

Also not enforcing border security and allowing people to enter the country illegally is a crime

 
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