If Miller is still in the mix, hire him

[PittMiamiRivalry]

For once silence the Puritanical self-serving intellectuals who want to rule every aspect of Pitt. Pitt is looking more ridiculous by the day. I'm concerned that Ms. Lyke is way out of her league. If she decided to dump Stallings in January, she should have had some back up plans ready to go. Like shoving a contract Penn State didn't want in its face, Lyke is looking really unsuited for a big time AD position.

If Miller only gets a year or two at Pitt with other issues closing in on him, so what? He might be able to resurrect this dismal program to NIT level next year.

When Pitt dumped their wonder boy hire Hackett, Jackie Sherrill was interested. But they passed him up because of reputation fears and hired JMII. By this time, rumors were plentiful that Mr. Majors had some alcohol-related issues and documented cardiac problems. Wouldn't Sherrill have been better than the senile JMII?

For once, Pitt, take a chance.

 

[Pitt1992]

Just put it in his contract if something were to come up they can fire him for cause,the only person in the higher ups who seems to not want to hire him is the one that counts

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

What makes you think Miller is remotely interested in leaving zona?

 

[bobfree]

He was. I’m not sure if he still is.

But he was, and he approached Pitt not the other way around

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

He was. I’m not sure if he still is.

But he was, and he approached Pitt not the other way around

Charlie Brown is kicking the ball this time!

 

[Cavalier Panther]

Miller has been a great recruiter, but things are different now. The high end players he recruits can go anywhere they want. If they're savvy, they'll avoid schools that might be sanctioned and coaches that are under scrutiny. Just because he's recruited well doesn't necessarily mean he'll keep chugging along, of note several of his players have decommitted. Arizona has no 2018 class as of today, what is our basis for him recruiting a bunch of 5 stars to Pitt?

 

[NewEraPanthers]

Arizona fans are talking about firing him because of all of his baggage and you want to hire him?! Our program is already in shambles. We don't need a coach who's in shambles.

 

[Pitt1992]

At this moment we don't have a coach so anything is better than nothing

 

[NewEraPanthers]

At this moment we don't have a coach so anything is better than nothing

I'm not sure that a coach under FBI investigation who's also losing all of his recruiting connections is better.

 

[Slacker242]

I'm not sure that a coach under FBI investigation who's also losing all of his recruiting connections is better.

Besides ESPN’s bogus article find me one place that says he is under FBI investigation without referencing the ESPN article. I will answer this for you.. there isn’t one because he isn’t and if there is they are only saying it because of the ESPN article. Ayton was cleared by the FBI. I can’t believe this lie has so much legs.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Ayton was cleared by the FBI.

He most certainly was not. The FBI has not commented one way or the other on the ESPN story. Why on earth would they?

That doesn't mean that he took any money. But find me the quote from one of the FBI investigators that says that Ayton did nothing wrong and is in the clear. I can save you some time by telling you not to bother, because no such quotes exist. But if you don't believe me, knock yourself out.

 

[bobfree]

Charlie Brown is kicking the ball this time!

I’m not sure why I even attempt to be civil with you.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

A couple of points have come out from a lot of sources about this. It is a fact that Miller absolutely was interested in the job here. Pitt was too...INCLUDING Lyke. Everyone thinks she's the one that shut it down when in fact that wasn't the case at all. She was in for Miller. The General Counsel were the ones that put an end to the Miller talk. For those of you that wanted Miller, stop blaming Lyke for this one. It wasn't her

 

[jtownknowitall]

Had Sean Miller not played at Pitt, no one on this board would want anything to do with him

 

[Pitt1992]

Yeah but he's also probably the only one that can resurrect pitt anytime soon

 

[MyNameisJoe]

Had Sean Miller not played at Pitt, no one on this board would want anything to do with him

I'm not sure about that. There are other coaches out there that played at Pitt that a majority of the fan base give a hard pass on...Willard, Knight

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Had Sean Miller not played at Pitt, no one on this board would want anything to do with him

How is that surprising? In fact; it is not only predictable, but it is normal.

If I didn’t go to Pitt I wouldn’t want anything to do with Pitt basketball.

If I wasn’t born in Pittsburgh I probably wouldn’t care about that Steelers....

And on and on.

You have made an excellent observation. You just forgot to plug in your logic device.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Book Richardson is likely done in coaching I would think. At least at any level of note. With that isn’t there a reasonable possibility he rolls on anyone and everyone if there is anything? Why would he keep his mouth shut? I certainly don’t know but I suspect and believe Miller is dirty. Because there’s possibly a lot more to come they are staying away from him. With the feds involved there have to be a lot of unknowns at this point.

 

[Teh Teh]

What makes you think Miller is remotely interested in leaving zona?

Are you serious about this? His job is scotch taped to a 100 lb barbell. He knows it, we know it, and zona is only holding on to him hoping not to waive the buy-out

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I’m not sure why I even attempt to be civil with you.

How is my analogy uncivil?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Are you serious about this? His job is scotch taped to a 100 lb barbell. He knows it, we know it, and zona is only holding on to him hoping not to waive the buy-out

So, again-
I’ll ask- why would he voluntarily leave zona when he’s not fired?

 

[OriginalEther]

So, again-
I’ll ask- why would he voluntarily leave zona when he’s not fired?

Especially to go to a school that he and his family have made abundantly clear that he doesn't want to go to?
Sean Miller doesn't want to go to Pitt. If that changes, that's because Arizona and everybody else doesn't want him.

 

[MarySki]

For once silence the Puritanical self-serving intellectuals who want to rule every aspect of Pitt. Pitt is looking more ridiculous by the day. I'm concerned that Ms. Lykes is way out of her league. If she decided to dump Stallings in January, she should have had some back up plans ready to go. Like shoving a contract Penn State didn't want in its face, Lykes is looking really unsuited for a big time AD position.

If Miller only gets a year or two at Pitt with other issues closing in on him, so what? He might be able to resurrect this dismal program to NIT level next year.

When Pitt dumped their wonder boy hire Hackett, Jackie Sherrill was interested. But they passed him up because of reputation fears and hired JMII. By this time, rumors were plentiful that Mr. Majors had some alcohol-related issues and documented cardiac problems. Wouldn't Sherrill have been better than the senile JMII?

For once, Pitt, take a chance.

So Ms Lyke is out of her league by being cautious, I assume with Miller, but it was ok for Sherrill not to be hired because of fears and "issues".

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

With that isn’t there a reasonable possibility he rolls on anyone and everyone if there is anything? Why would he keep his mouth shut?

He'll keep his mouth shut because he is under indictment. The day may come when the feds decide they have bigger fish to fry and they offer him a deal to roll over. But until then or until his case has been adjudicated he isn't going to roll on anyone. It wouldn't be prudent.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

He'll keep his mouth shut because he is under indictment. The day may come when the feds decide they have bigger fish to fry and they offer him a deal to roll over. But until then or until his case has been adjudicated he isn't going to roll on anyone. It wouldn't be prudent.

Well that was precisely my point although maybe I could have said it better. I meant opening his mouth to the feds. Because of that possibility Miller is viewed as potentially toxic until this matter is fully adjudicated.

 

[Delpanther]

He most certainly was not. The FBI has not commented one way or the other on the ESPN story. Why on earth would they?

That doesn't mean that he took any money. But find me the quote from one of the FBI investigators that says that Ayton did nothing wrong and is in the clear. I can save you some time by telling you not to bother, because no such quotes exist. But if you don't believe me, knock yourself out.

Ayton isn't a target of the feds...hell will freeze over before the feds indict Ayton. He may have violated ncaa rules but he hasn't been accused of breaking any law.

 

[Cap pitt]

For once silence the Puritanical self-serving intellectuals who want to rule every aspect of Pitt. Pitt is looking more ridiculous by the day. I'm concerned that Ms. Lykes is way out of her league. If she decided to dump Stallings in January, she should have had some back up plans ready to go. Like shoving a contract Penn State didn't want in its face, Lykes is looking really unsuited for a big time AD position.

If Miller only gets a year or two at Pitt with other issues closing in on him, so what? He might be able to resurrect this dismal program to NIT level next year.

When Pitt dumped their wonder boy hire Hackett, Jackie Sherrill was interested. But they passed him up because of reputation fears and hired JMII. By this time, rumors were plentiful that Mr. Majors had some alcohol-related issues and documented cardiac problems. Wouldn't Sherrill have been better than the senile JMII?

For once, Pitt, take a chance.

Absolutely not don't hire Miller, what has he won at Arizona? Zilch!!! Pac 12 champions? so what, weak power 5 conference in hoops "Bill Walton is an idiot" plus he come with baggage

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Ayton isn't a target of the feds...hell will freeze over before the feds indict Ayton. He may have violated ncaa rules but he hasn't been accused of breaking any law.

I didn't say he was or that he will be. What I said is that the OP's notion that the FBI has cleared Ayton is ridiculous, because they have absolutely done no such thing. And are extremely unlikely to do so any time soon, if ever.

However, if it can be shown that he took the $100,000, then he most certainly will be in trouble with the feds. Unless you think that he declared that money on his income taxes.

 

[bobfree]

Absolutely not don't hire Miller, what has he won at Arizona? Zilch!!! Pac 12 champions? so what, weak power 5 conference in hoops "Bill Walton is an idiot" plus he come with baggage

So who do you want?

 

[Delpanther]

I didn't say he was or that he will be. What I said is that the OP's notion that the FBI has cleared Ayton is ridiculous, because they have absolutely done no such thing. And are extremely unlikely to do so any time soon, if ever.

However, if it can be shown that he took the $100,000, then he most certainly will be in trouble with the feds. Unless you think that he declared that money on his income taxes.

The feds aren't going to Indict Ayton for income tax evasion...they have bigger fish to fry.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The feds aren't going to Indict Ayton for income tax evasion...they have bigger fish to fry.

If their investigation finds that he took $100,000 and didn't pay taxes on it you can bet that the IRS is going to take action. The notion that they'll just allow something like that to completely slide is ridiculous. People get in trouble every year for tax violations a lot smaller than $100,000.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Sure as soon as all of the pending charges against him are finalized.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Ayton isn't a target of the feds...hell will freeze over before the feds indict Ayton. He may have violated ncaa rules but he hasn't been accused of breaking any law.

Unreported income to the tune of $100k plus interest and penalties is significant.

That's called tax evasion.

The IRS has nailed many others to the wall for less.

All the IRS has to sue is prosecute one college recruit who took unreported money and that will stop.

Much of the IRS tax recoveries plus interest and penalties are high volume lower dollar recoveries.

 

[BFo8]

Unreported income to the tune of $100k plus interest and penalties is significant.

That's called tax evasion.

The IRS has nailed many others to the wall for less.

All the IRS has to sue is prosecute one college recruit who took unreported money and that will stop.

Much of the IRS tax recoveries plus interest and penalties are high volume lower dollar recoveries.

That’s how they get all these guys. If Miller was under investigation by the NCAA who really cares?

When you bring in the government it’s always going to be about tax evasion if money is involved.

If he wasn’t worried about the Feds there isn’t a chance in hell that Sean Miller is even thinking about Pitt in the slightest.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

That’s how they get all these guys. If Miller was under investigation by the NCAA who really cares?

When you bring in the government it’s always going to be about tax evasion if money is involved.

If he wasn’t worried about the Feds there isn’t a chance in hell that Sean Miller is even thinking about Pitt in the slightest.

I was talking to a Corp IRS guy.
What he told me was on any (individual or Corp)of these unreported income tax evasion cases they threaten mail and wired fraud to get everyone's attention.
Look up the minimum jail time for each of those.

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

 

[BFo8]

I was talking to a Corp IRS guy and what he told me on any (individual or Corp)of these unreported income tax evasion they threaten mail and wired fraud to get everyone's attention.
Look up the minimum jail time for each of those.

I went through a lengthy IRS audit for falsified expenses at my place of business last year and it’s no joke.

Once they get their teeth into you it’s pretty much over, my owners are going to end up losing their house over it. Justified by the way, they are out and out crooks that happened to be caught.

 

[mbrannagan]

For once silence the Puritanical self-serving intellectuals who want to rule every aspect of Pitt. Pitt is looking more ridiculous by the day. I'm concerned that Ms. Lykes is way out of her league. If she decided to dump Stallings in January, she should have had some back up plans ready to go. Like shoving a contract Penn State didn't want in its face, Lykes is looking really unsuited for a big time AD position.

If Miller only gets a year or two at Pitt with other issues closing in on him, so what? He might be able to resurrect this dismal program to NIT level next year.

When Pitt dumped their wonder boy hire Hackett, Jackie Sherrill was interested. But they passed him up because of reputation fears and hired JMII. By this time, rumors were plentiful that Mr. Majors had some alcohol-related issues and documented cardiac problems. Wouldn't Sherrill have been better than the senile JMII?

For once, Pitt, take a chance.

Do you truly believe that Miller will be able to recruit at the level he has previously with this over his head? I don't think so, he may be a good coach, but a good coach still needs players.

 

[Delpanther]

Unreported income to the tune of $100k plus interest and penalties is significant.

That's called tax evasion.

The IRS has nailed many others to the wall for less.

All the IRS has to sue is prosecute one college recruit who took unreported money and that will stop.

Much of the IRS tax recoveries plus interest and penalties are high volume lower dollar recoveries.

There's no mileage to be had in indicting a 19 year immigrant for tax evasion...

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

There's no mileage to be had in indicting a 19 year immigrant for tax evasion...

They aren't going to indict him, they are going to turn him over to the IRS. The IRS gets plenty of mileage every year going after lots of people who don't declare a hell of a lot less than $100,000 on their taxes.

 

[Delpanther]

They aren't going to indict him, they are going to turn him over to the IRS. The IRS gets plenty of mileage every year going after lots of people who don't declare a hell of a lot less than $100,000 on their taxes.

Call me when they go after Ayton for tax evasion...