I'm sorry Jamie lovers, but it's time for change...
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Nah most of the Jamie lovers will be AWOL until the next Pitt win. Then they'll all be out in full force insulting anyone that dare criticize the man. You'll see.
Who are these that are awol? your imaginary friends again?
He's not going anywhere so.......you don't fire coaches with 7 years left on their contract.
At this rate that will be till November 2016. Even the biggest kool-aid guzzler has to see there are problems.
If changes are made it will be with the assistants, I don't see Dixon stepping down unless he takes another job or if he refuses to make changes with the assistants.
you do if you think the program will continue this level of mediocrity for the next 3 or 4 years
I wish it weren't the case but unless he takes another job it's still cost prohibitive to fire him. That's just reality.
we also said Pitt couldn't fire Sreve Pederson because of the extension & buyout Nordy gave him but that didn't stop Barnes from showing Smiley the door
If I remember correctly Steve P was fired in December, same time Chryst was being introduced as head coach at Wisconsin and Scott Barnes wasn't hired until April. So Barnes didn't show anybody the door.
No he didn't. Randy Juhl did the deed. Thank goodness for RJ..he restored professionalism to the department.
However this goes the Pitt A department will handle it professionally.
I certainly agree that we need to bring in better players, but I would like to see Jamie do a better job of coaching/handling the players he currently has.
And Dixon makes around 3x as much as Smiley. So Pedey getting s-canned isn't a good comparison.
Yea, from a financial standpoint they're light years apart.
The guy still wins 20 games a year and is competitive in the best conference in the country. It's not what we used to be but it's pretty damn good for a program that has not traditionally been that good in a terrible natural recruiting footprint.
Look I'm not happy we arent better...but people need to realize his national profile is the only brand Pitt has right now.
Look I'm not happy we arent better...but people need to realize his national profile is the only brand Pitt has right now.
It's time for Barnes to insist, not suggest, that this current staff be broken up and an experienced former HC of a D1 program ( like a Rice, Herrion, etc) that has NY / Philly / DC ties be brought in to help Dixon recruit, strategize and manage late game situations. Just not getting it done the last 4-5 years and man it's tough to watch.
I admire Juhl ... But it's worth noting he was upper admin starting in 2003...so it's not like he was a fresh voice.
He finished .500. Not the end of the world. Season ticket sales will plummet for next year and a half-empty Pete for the season will be awkward but the norm going forward. With the rise of the football program, Dixon will be an after-thought and his .500 seasons will be accepted. However, his contract is incentive-laddered. He will be feeling it in his wallet big-time.
Just to be accurate, Pederson had almost 4 years left on his contract with Pitt when he was fired and his buyout was a little over 2 million..... of course, you are correct that Jamie's buyout at present would be a lot more with 7 years left on his contract.
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Well I don't know the buyout clause in Jamie's contract but the amount would very likely be a lot more then Pederson's buyout which was printed in the media at the time.
Probably a LOT more, but I'm sure it could be negotiated down if another school was interested and Pitt was not totally interested in truly having him stay.
Well Pederson's buyout was printed in the Pittsburgh media at the time ....... maybe the reporter was guessing or maybe he had a source that told him.
Personal services contracts don't have buyouts that run in favor of the employer. They have buyouts that provide agreed to amount the coach has to pay if the coach leaves for another school before expiration of the contract. If the school gets rid of the coach mid-contract, the damages are equal to the unexpired term of the contract multiplied by the annual salary.
And if the coach leaves for another school, then that amount is negotiable between Pitt and his new school? If Pitt fires him, then I guess it could also be negotiable, but probably a LOT more going that way? Seems most coaching contracts end up in negotiations rather than a hard figure don't they?
And where did you see that? I have never heard or read where Pitt has suggested that they can buy out Dixon's contract for less than the salary for the term of the agreement. I have never seen a personal services contract with a buyout in favor of the employer-ever! If Dixon's agent was stupid enough to agree to that, he should be sued for malpractice.
Coaches can be "encouraged" to move on and even be helped by their AD in finding a new school thus voiding the buyout and making it a Win/Win for all parties.
Normally, the coach's contract stipulates liquidated damages that the coach is required to pay dependent on when during the term of the contract that the coach leaves. This is because you can't specifically enforce a personal services contract. If Pitt fires him mid-contract simply because they don't like the job he's doing, that's a breach of contract. There's nothing to negotiate.
Well, it was also reported he got $2M which equates to $500k per year, his estimated annual salary, for 4 years. That doesn't sound like a negotiated buyout.
