It's Clear Big 12 Has No Choice But To Do Something Soon: 7 Things To Know, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I put it up because it brings up similar questions on how the ACC has to keep up with Big Ten and SEC Payouts Numbers too? It also relates to how the NBC Contract with Notre Dame could be incorporated like proposals on LGH Network turning into Big-12 Network? Or moreover, a possible joint ACC-B-12 Network of 24 Teams in 4 Division of 6 Team each, or 8 Teams in 4 Divisions going to 32, making 4 Power Conferences and reorganized on a collective geographical basis????
EXCERPTS.....&.....LINK:
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The evidence is mounting. The signs are there for the Big 12. The conference has to do something to address its future..........
................“The last time they went through this [expansion] admittedly it was a fire drill,” commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. “They were down to eight members and they were scrambling. But it wasn't a very thorough process.” This will be. No more knee-jerk West Virginia expansion when, in hindsight, Louisville would have been the better choice.........
............Bowlsby summed it up this way when asked the financial gap between his league and the SEC, a number that currently stands at about $9 million per year in rights fee revenue. “If we do nothing, 12 years from now, we'll be $20 million per school behind the SEC and the Big Ten,” he said.............
............“Success isn't all tied to the money, but it certainly isn't unrelated,” Bowlsby added..........
...............The addition of two more teams in expansion adds to that inventory. Meanwhile, Fox and ESPN reportedly continue struggling financially. “They [rightsholders in general] don't have any choice but to continue to buy content,” Bowlsby said.............
...........The Big 12 is sitting on a potential pot of (inventory) gold: About $75 million worth. The number equates the market value of 70 football and basketball games owned by conference schools outside of the current media rights deals. There are 10 football games -- one per school each season -- worth about $4 million each. Even though we're talking mostly body-bag non-conference games, that's $40 million to be sold to a potential network partner. There's another 60 basketball games controlled by the schools worth about $35 million...........
..............Texas' pride: If eventually there is a Big 12 Network, it's clear Texas' collective ego will have to be soothed. It sort of has look like was their idea to fold the struggling Longhorn Network into a conference-wide network. LHN, to this point, has been a financial failure, losing a total of $48 million, according to the San Antonio Express-News. A source told CBS Sports that the network continues to lose single-digit millions..................
.........See how the Texas ego begins to be soothed? We're essentially talking LHN branded as the Big 12 Network............
......How it would work: Industry sources said ESPN gets 28 cents for each of the approximately 6.5 million subscribers in the state of Texas. That 28 cents represents what consumers pay for LHN on their monthly cable bill. Outside of the state, that number goes down to two cents multiplied by 13 million subscribers outside of the footprint. That's a total of about 20 million subscribers for the only single institution network in existence (not counting BYU)..........
...................“We can't do network without Texas raising its hand and saying, ‘We're willing to roll it in,'" Bowlsby said. “We've had those conversations, but they haven't raised their hand. But they also haven't said, ‘Stop right now. We're not willing to talk about it.'”..............
..............Big Ten fallout: The Big Ten is in the process of negotiating new media rights deals that will expire in 2016 (football) and 2017 (basketball). Depending on who you believe, the conference is expected to get at least a modest increase in its deals valued at more than $1 billion..........
...........Expansion timing: Bowlsby confirmed something regarding his conference's future will have to be decided by the summer. If the league expands, it would probably take two years for the new teams to join. When they do begin play in 2018, there would be only six years left on the Big 12's current deal with ESPN and Fox.................
...........Ongoing jitters: Mike Aresco and the rest of the American Athletic Conference are eyeing the Big 12 warily...................
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-something-soon--or-else-seven-things-to-know

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

If Texas indeed agrees to turn the Longhorn Network into a Big 12 Network that would absolutely be a game changer. I just don't understand why they would agree to that?

Then again, there is so much about this process that makes no sense to me that I've given up trying to guess.

One thing is for sure, the B12's expansion drumbeat keeps growing louder. I thought it was a whole bunch of nothing but now I'm not sure.

It will be interesting to see who the Big 12 targets if it does indeed expand? Will they try to raid the ACC for schools or will they look to a pair of Gang of Five schools to fill those spots?

Who knows? However, that is definitely the key question to all of this.

Also, would any member of the ACC be interested in defecting to the Big 12. Personally, after analyzing the numbers, I can't imagine why anyone would do that? The ACC just has so many more people living within it's footprint and the schools that comprise it are so much better off financially and in reputation. The ACC's potential is significantly higher than the B12's potential. However, others who have also looked at this very carefully feel very differently.

My guess, according to the most knowledgeable chatter I have read, is that the Big 12 is going to target Cincinnati and Brigham Young as teams Nos. 11 and 12. However, it will be interesting to follow.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

If Texas indeed agrees to turn the Longhorn Network into a Big 12 Network that would absolutely be a game changer. I just don't understand why they would agree to that?

Then again, there is so much about this process that makes no sense to me that I've given up trying to guess.

One thing is for sure, the B12's expansion drumbeat keeps growing louder. I thought it was a whole bunch of nothing but now I'm not sure.

It will be interesting to see who the Big 12 targets if it does indeed expand? Will they try to raid the ACC for schools or will they look to a pair of Gang of Five schools to fill those spots?

Who knows? However, that is definitely the key question to all of this.

Also, would any member of the ACC be interested in defecting to the Big 12. Personally, after analyzing the numbers, I can't imagine why anyone would do that? The ACC just has so many more people living within it's footprint and the schools that comprise it are so much better off financially and in reputation. The ACC's potential is significantly higher than the B12's potential. However, others who have also looked at this very carefully feel very differently.

My guess, according to the most knowledgeable chatter I have read, is that the Big 12 is going to target Cincinnati and Brigham Young as teams Nos. 11 and 12. However, it will be interesting to follow.

Oklahoma and Co. could strong-arm Texas and say if they dont turn LHN into B12N, they and others are gone and the B12 is done.

 

[pierre93]

More happy flying for cc....keep the mileage rackin kin.

 

[cruzer]

I put it up because it brings up similar questions on how the ACC has to keep up with Big Ten and SEC Payouts Numbers too? It also relates to how the NBC Contract with Notre Dame could be incorporated like proposals on LGH Network turning into Big-12 Network? Or moreover, a possible joint ACC-B-12 Network of 24 Teams in 4 Division of 6 Team each, or 8 Teams in 4 Divisions going to 32, making 4 Power Conferences and reorganized on a collective geographical basis????
EXCERPTS.....&.....LINK:
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The evidence is mounting. The signs are there for the Big 12. The conference has to do something to address its future..........
................“The last time they went through this [expansion] admittedly it was a fire drill,” commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. “They were down to eight members and they were scrambling. But it wasn't a very thorough process.” This will be. No more knee-jerk West Virginia expansion when, in hindsight, Louisville would have been the better choice.........
............Bowlsby summed it up this way when asked the financial gap between his league and the SEC, a number that currently stands at about $9 million per year in rights fee revenue. “If we do nothing, 12 years from now, we'll be $20 million per school behind the SEC and the Big Ten,” he said.............
............“Success isn't all tied to the money, but it certainly isn't unrelated,” Bowlsby added..........
...............The addition of two more teams in expansion adds to that inventory. Meanwhile, Fox and ESPN reportedly continue struggling financially. “They [rightsholders in general] don't have any choice but to continue to buy content,” Bowlsby said.............
...........The Big 12 is sitting on a potential pot of (inventory) gold: About $75 million worth. The number equates the market value of 70 football and basketball games owned by conference schools outside of the current media rights deals. There are 10 football games -- one per school each season -- worth about $4 million each. Even though we're talking mostly body-bag non-conference games, that's $40 million to be sold to a potential network partner. There's another 60 basketball games controlled by the schools worth about $35 million...........
..............Texas' pride: If eventually there is a Big 12 Network, it's clear Texas' collective ego will have to be soothed. It sort of has look like was their idea to fold the struggling Longhorn Network into a conference-wide network. LHN, to this point, has been a financial failure, losing a total of $48 million, according to the San Antonio Express-News. A source told CBS Sports that the network continues to lose single-digit millions..................
.........See how the Texas ego begins to be soothed? We're essentially talking LHN branded as the Big 12 Network............
......How it would work: Industry sources said ESPN gets 28 cents for each of the approximately 6.5 million subscribers in the state of Texas. That 28 cents represents what consumers pay for LHN on their monthly cable bill. Outside of the state, that number goes down to two cents multiplied by 13 million subscribers outside of the footprint. That's a total of about 20 million subscribers for the only single institution network in existence (not counting BYU)..........
...................“We can't do network without Texas raising its hand and saying, ‘We're willing to roll it in,'" Bowlsby said. “We've had those conversations, but they haven't raised their hand. But they also haven't said, ‘Stop right now. We're not willing to talk about it.'”..............
..............Big Ten fallout: The Big Ten is in the process of negotiating new media rights deals that will expire in 2016 (football) and 2017 (basketball). Depending on who you believe, the conference is expected to get at least a modest increase in its deals valued at more than $1 billion..........
...........Expansion timing: Bowlsby confirmed something regarding his conference's future will have to be decided by the summer. If the league expands, it would probably take two years for the new teams to join. When they do begin play in 2018, there would be only six years left on the Big 12's current deal with ESPN and Fox.................
...........Ongoing jitters: Mike Aresco and the rest of the American Athletic Conference are eyeing the Big 12 warily...................
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-something-soon--or-else-seven-things-to-know

I think an important issue to keep an eye on is how quickly people switch off cable entirely. The premise of ever-rising TV rights only seems valid in a world where the big players like ESPN can dictate to cable providers (and their consumers) that all subscribers will pay a base fee for content they may or may not want. Once a user cuts the cord, they're only going to pay for those services they actually use. Broadcast rights payments may eventually fall over time. If that happens, the whole equation is out of whack. What could happen is that over time, we morph to something which looks more like a pay-per-view model. In that world, the teams with large, fanatical fan bases (think Alabama, Texas, OSU, Michigan) will have an even greater advantage. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[ThePanthers]

If Texas indeed agrees to turn the Longhorn Network into a Big 12 Network that would absolutely be a game changer. I just don't understand why they would agree to that?

Then again, there is so much about this process that makes no sense to me that I've given up trying to guess.

One thing is for sure, the B12's expansion drumbeat keeps growing louder. I thought it was a whole bunch of nothing but now I'm not sure.

It will be interesting to see who the Big 12 targets if it does indeed expand? Will they try to raid the ACC for schools or will they look to a pair of Gang of Five schools to fill those spots?

Who knows? However, that is definitely the key question to all of this.

Also, would any member of the ACC be interested in defecting to the Big 12. Personally, after analyzing the numbers, I can't imagine why anyone would do that? The ACC just has so many more people living within it's footprint and the schools that comprise it are so much better off financially and in reputation. The ACC's potential is significantly higher than the B12's potential. However, others who have also looked at this very carefully feel very differently.

My guess, according to the most knowledgeable chatter I have read, is that the Big 12 is going to target Cincinnati and Brigham Young as teams Nos. 11 and 12. However, it will be interesting to follow.

I can't see any ACC schools wanting to go. If it was the BIG or SEC, then maybe, but not the Big XII.

Dennis Dodd (the author of this article) wrote one two days prior where he said a reputable source told him the ACC is going to be generating more revenue per team than the Big XII with or without a network.

Most legit people have said if the Big XII expanded today, it would be either Cincy and UConn if they went East or Cincy and BYU if spread out.

 

[PittMan 72]

Oklahoma and Co. could strong-arm Texas and say if they dont turn LHN into B12N, they and others are gone and the B12 is done.

Sure they could. That'd be a GREAT move by the others in the Big XII! If they're interested in the suicide of their own conference, that is. Because by so doing they'd drive TX into the waiting arms of another P5 conference without a doubt. Any of the other 4 would take the Longhorns in a heartbeat! You cannot "strong-arm" the program that is the linchpin that's really the only thing holding that conference together in the first place.

 

[Rockyhound]

More happy flying for cc....keep the mileage rackin kin.

That's a lot of wear and tear on a mobile home.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

If Texas indeed agrees to turn the Longhorn Network into a Big 12 Network that would absolutely be a game changer. I just don't understand why they would agree to that?

Then again, there is so much about this process that makes no sense to me that I've given up trying to guess.

One thing is for sure, the B12's expansion drumbeat keeps growing louder. I thought it was a whole bunch of nothing but now I'm not sure.

It will be interesting to see who the Big 12 targets if it does indeed expand? Will they try to raid the ACC for schools or will they look to a pair of Gang of Five schools to fill those spots?

Who knows? However, that is definitely the key question to all of this.

Also, would any member of the ACC be interested in defecting to the Big 12. Personally, after analyzing the numbers, I can't imagine why anyone would do that? The ACC just has so many more people living within it's footprint and the schools that comprise it are so much better off financially and in reputation. The ACC's potential is significantly higher than the B12's potential. However, others who have also looked at this very carefully feel very differently.

My guess, according to the most knowledgeable chatter I have read, is that the Big 12 is going to target Cincinnati and Brigham Young as teams Nos. 11 and 12. However, it will be interesting to follow.

All good questions and discussions and why I put it up. Shows possible impacts on the ACC as Big-12 wants to compete or stay closer to SEC & Big Ten money, but Pac-12 Network is not working out as expected so ACC waits?

Perhaps Big-12 and ACC with Long Horn and Notre Dame NBC Contract can work a joint deal together to form a Joint Sharing Network and scheduling? I don't know either, why I thought it is a relevant discussion for the Lair posters that follow it and suggest what may happen?

Notre Dame and Texas should come to understand there are benefits working and sharing together. Yet, still content just to keep it the way it is but over time that position erodes.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Sure they could. That'd be a GREAT move by the others in the Big XII! If they're interested in the suicide of their own conference, that is. Because by so doing they'd drive TX into the waiting arms of another P5 conference without a doubt. Any of the other 4 would take the Longhorns in a heartbeat! You cannot "strong-arm" the program that is the linchpin that's really the only thing holding that conference together in the first place.

Oklahoma can call up the P12 or ACC and join tomorrow. Probably the SEC and B10 to. They dont need the B12. They can tell Texas to play fair or they're gone and the B12 is done. OU has a lot of power.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"cruzer, post: 1078923, member: 460"]I think an important issue to keep an eye on is how quickly people switch off cable entirely.
Good point and the FCC is and Congress are working on New Technologies that may change Cable Boxes but that would still take over 10 Years of Transition to change and Cable is fighting that change in Washington. It is still coming sooner or later, Technology waits for no one, just can be delayed a while. Remember, Casettes, Eight Tracks, VCRs, Tivos, CD Players and Disc, now streaming? All still around but not used much or profitable.

The premise of ever-rising TV rights only seems valid in a world where the big players like ESPN can dictate to cable providers (and their consumers) that all subscribers will pay a base fee for content they may or may not want. Once a user cuts the cord, they're only going to pay for those services they actually use. Broadcast rights payments may eventually fall over time. If that happens, the whole equation is out of whack. What could happen is that over time, we morph to something which looks more like a pay-per-view model. In that world, the teams with large, fanatical fan bases (think Alabama, Texas, OSU, Michigan) will have an even greater advantage. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Very accurate and what the Pac-12 did to go it alone hurt them as well, while ESPN/FOX are hesitant to do the same with ACC & Big-12, but making SEC and BIG-10 bigger? It is also dividing the haves into have nots among and within conferences. In 2007 only 3 Football Programs made over $100 Million????....Today 28 did it last year and 18 in SEC & B10. Bama made $46 Million making the CFB Playoffs but Clemson ended up with just $645,000 Profit.
driving up costs. Texas even with LGH Network still gross $179 Million last year?

Yet, the Big Money makers will spend more to stay competitive and drive up the Cost 4 Times faster on revenues on other Have Nots? The day when Conference Sharing is still here but even within the Conferences the gaps continue to grow even as money as increased far bigger than ever in CFB????

A For Profit League could end that and make it more profitable for everyone but the Haves don't care about Sharing if they keep staying as Bigger Haves, but a For Profits like the NFL shows, increases even bigger for all when they can control costs on more level playing competitive field and income statement?

Courts, Congress, and other can step in too when Coaches make millions and Staffers and Student Athletes get more but not as much as they give in body and mind?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Oklahoma can call up the P12 or ACC and join tomorrow. Probably the SEC and B10 to. They dont need the B12. They can tell Texas to play fair or they're gone and the B12 is done. OU has a lot of power.

Yep, reminds me of OU is Shouting that Warning with Air Supply's song All Out Of Love, Lyrics..........
"I want you to come back and (Expand) carry me home
Away from this (Less Profitable) long lonely nights
I'm reaching for you, are you feeling it too
Does the feeling seem oh so right
And what would you say if I called on (Expansion Now) you now
And said that I can't hold on
There's no easy way, it gets harder each day
Please love me or I'll be gone, I'll be gone!"

Then Texas and other Big-12 Programs says....
"I'm all out of BIG-12 LOVE, I'm so lost without OU
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without OU
I can't be too late I know I was so wrong.....BUT LIVING WELL IN THE BIG TEN OR SEC WITHOUT THE BIG-12 OR OU???

 

[PittMan 72]

Oklahoma can call up the P12 or ACC and join tomorrow. Probably the SEC and B10 to. They dont need the B12. They can tell Texas to play fair or they're gone and the B12 is done. OU has a lot of power.

OU can do whatever they want; except "strong-arm" TX, that is. Anybody from the Big XII messes with TX and Bevo will blow up the Big XII. Texas have options galore!!!! They're NOT going to give up what they believe they themselves have earned and deserve with the LHN by sharing the wealth with the rest of the Big XII.

 

[pittdan77]

Texas will give up the LGH Network if they can make more money from the deal. Otherwise, I think they'd be okay if everyone else walked away and found some sort of ND like arrangement with another conference.

If what Swofford said in the past is the truth, the ACC might be pretty smart to sit back and wait like they have been. Get a feel for what is available after this latest round of new contracts happens and what the risks and rewards could be. Then leverage the situation as much as they can to max out a deal. Might be some value in being the only pretty girl left, so to speak.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I can't see any ACC schools wanting to go. If it was the BIG or SEC, then maybe, but not the Big XII.

Dennis Dodd (the author of this article) wrote one two days prior where he said a reputable source told him the ACC is going to be generating more revenue per team than the Big XII with or without a network.

Most legit people have said if the Big XII expanded today, it would be either Cincy and UConn if they went East or Cincy and BYU if spread out.

There was talks about Big-12 Commissioner talking to the ACC too a few years back and wonder if those talks can generate a mutual exchange of merging as well to stay competitive with the Big Ten and SEC and incorporate Texas LGH Network ND NBC Contract with a Collective Network of 24 or 32 Programs?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Texas will give up the LGH Network if they can make more money from the deal. Otherwise, I think they'd be okay if everyone else walked away and found some sort of ND like arrangement with another conference.

If what Swofford said in the past is the truth, the ACC might be pretty smart to sit back and wait like they have been. Get a feel for what is available after this latest round of new contracts happens and what the risks and rewards could be. Then leverage the situation as much as they can to max out a deal. Might be some value in being the only pretty girl left, so to speak.

Thank you a good reminder I forgot about when Swofford said years ago, "There Is Only One Program With An Open Invitation To The ACC And That Is Texas!" Wow, if Texas and Notre Dame could come together and incorporate their separate Network & NBC Contract into an ACC Network that would make just as much as Big Ten and SEC and largest footprint too even with changing Technologies?

RECENT 2015 LINKS:
Speculation: Notre Dame And Texas To ACC?
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2015/7/30/9072153/speculation-notre-dame-and-texas-to-acc

Conference Realignment: Could Notre Dame and Texas Be the Long Game for the ACC?
http://www.nunesmagician.com/2015/7...e-texas-be-the-long-game-acc-expansion-big-12

OLDER LINKS:
Texas to the ACC: Is it so crazy?
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/09/14/texas-to-the-acc-is-it-so-crazy/

http://atlanticcoastconfidential.com/2013/09/15/texas-to-the-acc/

http://frankthetank.me/tag/texas-to-the-acc/

 

[JHud986]

found it interesting that the mountain queers were a last gasp effort of the b12. Even they didn't want
the hillbillies!

 

[medixman]

I think WVU is doing OK in bb in the Big 12?Well in fb its another story that maybe a new coach can change.Louisville is a great addition to the ACC both in academics and ethics,they've did things there the Mounties couldn't of done,I bet the ACC is proud of them?
I can see that Pitt is the Crown Jewel of the ACC where as WVU is low man on the Totem Pole in the Big12!H2P

 

[aged_wolverine]

Thank you a good reminder I forgot about when Swofford said years ago, "There Is Only One Program With An Open Invitation To The ACC And That Is Texas!" Wow, if Texas and Notre Dame could come together and incorporate their separate Network & NBC Contract into an ACC Network that would make just as much as Big Ten and SEC and largest footprint too even with changing Technologies?

RECENT 2015 LINKS:
Speculation: Notre Dame And Texas To ACC?
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2015/7/30/9072153/speculation-notre-dame-and-texas-to-acc

Conference Realignment: Could Notre Dame and Texas Be the Long Game for the ACC?
http://www.nunesmagician.com/2015/7...e-texas-be-the-long-game-acc-expansion-big-12

OLDER LINKS:
Texas to the ACC: Is it so crazy?
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/09/14/texas-to-the-acc-is-it-so-crazy/

http://atlanticcoastconfidential.com/2013/09/15/texas-to-the-acc/

http://frankthetank.me/tag/texas-to-the-acc/

Cmon Cap. get real bro.


The ACC already bent over, and gave ND the conference backside to rail. Swofford is going to do more "sweetheart" deals? Keep in mind, if there is one school with a bigger ego than ND, it is Texas. The ND deal already caused dissent in the ACC, you think exposing their backsides to more railing is going to make the other conference members happy?


Nope, courting Texas would result in more schools leaving the ACC. Matter of fact, GT, VA, and FSU would fit real well into the B1G.

 

[aged_wolverine]

From the Buckeyes & Wolverines to Indiana & Purdue, everyone has a say, and everyone makes the same in the B1G. That is good business.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"aged_wolverine, post: 1080117, member: 2694"]From the Buckeyes & Wolverines to Indiana & Purdue, everyone has a say, and everyone makes the same in the B1G. That is good business.[
Not Fully True to what I have been told and read. If that was true then all Big Ten Universities would be over $100 in Revenues and that is not that case since only 18 from SEC & Big Ten have such $100 million Revenues out of 28 of 128 last year? Actually some Big Ten Programs lose money by sharing their gate while others make it from selling Tickets without expenses in bigger sold out Stadiums. Indian Article Link below outlines how Indiana poor attendance makes money at the expenses of other Programs that lose it, due to that sharing. Indiana and Northwestern for years did not fund all 85 NCAA Scholarships prior to 2005 until Big Ten Network money showed up.

For example, Luxury Boxes Revenues are the property of each University and not shared in the Big Ten. All TV, Bowl, and Game Attendance Revenues are shared but not Seat Licenses etc etc....see links below.

On the Luxury boxes which is one of the highest revenues for each school, Michigan added them a few years ago, just to keep up with OSU & PSU. Still, you are correct that only the Big Ten Shares its attendance revenues but not always profitable for all Programs, but still commendable as far as I am concern.

Sharing on the Lair: Happy for you to augment or correct any information as well.
Recent Links & Excerpts:

HOW BIG TEN SPLIT GATE RECEIPTS:
The 117-year-old league, of which the University of Iowa is a member, shares television and postseason revenue as do many conferences. But the Big Ten also splits its football gate receipts from league games, a step devoid of other conferences. Thirty-five percent of Big Ten home gate receipts — with a $1 million cap and a $300,000 floor — goes to the league office. From there it’s distributed into 12 equal pieces. Big Ten officials collected more than $36.4 million through gate sharing for the 2012 season, and each school received $3.038 million, according to documents obtained by The Gazette through the Freedom of Information Act. Seven schools, including the UI, lost money on the share. The UI, Penn State, Ohio State University, the University of Nebraska and the University of Michigan contributed $4 million and lost the maximum of $961,828.86.

The University of Wisconsin and Michigan State University lost more than $860,000. Indiana University — which contributed only $300,000 in three of its four games — picked up an extra $1.722 million as one of five schools benefiting from share.
The UI generated more than $13.3 million in gate revenue from its four 2012 Big Ten games, ranking fifth in the league. Today’s opponent Northwestern, a private university, was ninth, with less than $5.6 million. Seven Big Ten schools earned at least $11.2 million from home gate receipts, while the five lowest combined for $25 million, barely edging Big Ten leader Michigan ($24.776 million).
Big markets:
The schools that gain revenue through the model — such as Northwestern — often contribute in other ways. Northwestern resides in suburban Chicago, the league’s largest market.
LINKS:
INDIANA GATE RECEIPTS SHARES:
http://www.thegazette.com/2013/10/25/in-big-ten-conference-they-split-the-gate

Big Ten Ticket Revenue Article:
One important thing to note is that the gate receipt total from which the 35% is taken does not include premiums paid for suites, club seats or the like. For example, if a school requires a minimum donation in order to qualify for season tickets or a suite, that donation amount is not included, only the face value on the tickets. Similarly, if the cost of a suite is $10,000, but the face value on the ticket is only $4,000, it is the latter amount that is used for revenue sharing purposes.
LINK:
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/04/20/big-ten-ticket-revenue/

CBS SPORTS, 100 MILLION REVENUE CLUB ARTICLE:
Eighteen of the 28 schools at $100 million play in the SEC or Big Ten. Athletic departments in those conferences averaged more than $100 million in revenue, widening the financial gaps between the SEC and Big Ten with everyone else. Ten of the 19 biggest moneymakers last year came from the SEC. Texas reported the most revenue at $179.6 million, followed by Ohio State ($170.9 million) and Alabama ($150.6 million). Here’s what each team in the Big Ten contributed for the 2009 football season:....GO TO LINK:
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...sports-sec-big-ten-dominate-100m-revenue-club

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"aged_wolverine, post: 1080108, member: 2694"]Cmon Cap. get real bro. The ACC already bent over, and gave ND the conference backside to rail.
Well, Big Ten is paying the price for its rejection of Notre Dame a number of times it wanted to join the Big Ten, is it not? ND is happy right now with the situation, but sooner or later that will change in the coming years. It still galls Delany he can't corral ND right in the middle of the Big Ten Country.

Swofford is going to do more "sweetheart" deals? Keep in mind, if there is one school with a bigger ego than ND, it is Texas.
Spot on, and Texas will do what Texas wants, and why Nebraska, A&M and Colorado all left the Big-12 and Missouri waited and waited for a Big ten Invite but never came so they went SEC!

The ND deal already caused dissent in the ACC, you think exposing their backsides to more railing is going to make the other conference members happy?
I see your point and UNC's Delany did not give up, he went into Maryland & Washington DC and New Jersey and put an office in New York, because Swofford's poor visions on not taking Rutgers when they expanded with Pitt & Cuse? I always thought back in 2003, the Big East 8 FB Programs should have merged with ACC 9 and ND? Since Swofford Plan was flawed when they had to take VT over Cuse?
However, UNC's Swofford is known for some surprises?

Nope, courting Texas would result in more schools leaving ACC. Matter of fact, GT, VA, and FSU would fit real well into the B1G.
Disagree, Big Ten Has to go south and ACC can still come North too, SEC too! Big Bucks can cause it and Texas and ND would make that happen in the ACC too!

A CFB For Profit League will eventually reorganize all Power Conferences one day?

LINK:
College Football In 2034: Existential Threats Could Bring About Sweeping Changes:
We underestimate change, both its rate and its breadth. Before we project what college football will look like in 20 years, we must consider from where it came. College football fans in 1989 would hardly recognize what the sport has become. College football had not aligned fully in 1989.
Scheduling
Television
Realignment
The Postseason
Amateurism
Concussions
So, What Does It All Mean?
Major college programs are still in “the football business” in 2034 but forced to make it function as a business. The regular season, postseason and television schedules are optimized to attract fan interest and to produce revenue. An eight-team playoff determines as true of a “national champion” as the sport has ever produced.....
LINK:
http://thebiglead.com/2014/02/20/co...l-threats-could-bring-about-sweeping-changes/

 

[pittdan77]

From the Buckeyes & Wolverines to Indiana & Purdue, everyone has a say, and everyone makes the same in the B1G. That is good business.

B1G is getting the TV side right. Not sure adding Maryland and Rutgers is going to equal the returns that were anticipated but that ship hasn't sailed yet either.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"pittdan77, post: 1081212, member: 3668"]B1G is getting the TV side right. Not sure adding Maryland and Rutgers is going to equal the returns that were anticipated but that ship hasn't sailed yet either.
Yep, Rutgers Fans are thinking the same thing when reading this link:
Excerpt & Link:
Is there anything the Big Ten can do to help Rutgers financially?
As the most heavily subsidized athletics department in the country, Rutgers is at a clear disadvantage in terms of expenditures such as coaching salaries and facility improvements. And with Big Ten full-share member schools reportedly receiving at least $32 million in 2015, Rutgers will seemingly face an uphill battle until it becomes eligible for a full-share conference distribution in 2021............
University officials haven't revealed how much Rutgers received from the Big Ten following its first season playing in the conference, although an internal projections document in early 2014 listed Rutgers' payout as slightly more than $10 million for 2015.....$32 million versus $10 million.............
............"Basically our goal,'' he added, "was to keep our (traditional) institutions whole, to keep the (new) institutions coming in whole relative to where they were, and then at a certain point in time they'll become a full member of the conference. They'll have an undivided interest in the Big Ten Network and everything that we do. But that doesn't happen overnight.''
LINK:
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...nything_the_big_ten_can_do_to_help_rutge.html

Also, another Article saying Big Ten benefits from Maryland and Rutgers but the above article shows that is very similar to what Penn State and Nebraska is going through now, Big Ten benefits first and then the Universities, Penn State and Nebarska has had trouble staying a Top 25 Program and not as relevant in Championship Winning in teh 2000s but enjoying more money even if it means losing attendance monies by sharing their ticket receipts as links posted above.
Excerpt & Link:
5 things to know Wednesday:
Rutgers and Maryland additions paying off for Big Ten:
Rutgers' location was always the school's primary appeal to the Big Ten. The addition of Rutgers, along with Maryland, was expected to open up two of the biggest television markets in the country to the Big Ten Network. Mission accomplished, according to a report by Advertising Age...............
............."This is a great opportunity for the Big Ten to really become the anchor league conference on the East coast," BTN president Mark Silverman told Advertising Age. "When ACC raided Big East a second time, taking Syracuse and Pitt from the old Big East, it really created an opening for us...to become the network fans in the New York metro area gravitate to."............
..............Rutgers and Maryland won't cash in a full Big Ten share until 2021, but their addition is already paying off for the conference.
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ts-chasing-alabama-qb-battles-and-new-coaches