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[Pitt Law '04]

Reading this thread is so incredibly amusing.

Because I just know that the people bitching about the bowl selection would not have traveled to the game or purchased a ticket no matter where we were going or whom we were playing.

The whole thing is like clockwork. They never buy tickets or go to games during the regular season either.

You know who you are.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Wish we stayed in the American?!

LOL!!!

 

[Pittx9]

Reading this thread is so incredibly amusing.

Because I just know that the people bitching about the bowl selection would not have traveled to the game or purchased a ticket no matter where we were going or whom we were playing.

The whole thing is like clockwork. They never buy tickets or go to games during the regular season either.

You know who you are.

Not saying that I think you were directing it at me (I honestly don't know who exactly you are talking about.) but I went to the bowl game last year, I like the bowl somewhat this year, I would go if I could. I just don't see any reason to schedule these bowl games on a weekday afternoon.

I don't even remember how I was able to make it last year. But I just think having games at these times is flat out saying you don't care how many people go to your bowl or watch your bowl game on tv. I don't think any of us are in high school anymore, we don't get off a week and a half for Christmas. It's just terrible planning by the actual bowl.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Not saying that I think you were directing it at me (I honestly don't know who exactly you are talking about.) but I went to the bowl game last year, I like the bowl somewhat this year, I would go if I could. I just don't see any reason to schedule these bowl games on a weekday afternoon.

I don't even remember how I was able to make it last year. But I just think having games at these times is flat out saying you don't care how many people go to your bowl or watch your bowl game on tv. I don't think any of us are in high school anymore, we don't get off a week and a half for Christmas. It's just terrible planning by the actual bowl.

The Russell Athletic Bowl is on the same day. Wednesday December 28 and about three hours later.

 

[Motor_Street]

On a positive note the Pinstripe bowl pays $ 2 mill. It looks like around the 12 best paying bowl.
Last years Military bowl paid out a mere $ 1 mill.
So that's good right?
The Sun bowl in Mexico I mean El Paso TX pay $ 2.1 mill.

We got royally screwed. Taxslayer Bowl has third highest payout of any non-playoff bowl, not sure exactly how much. So how does Georgia Tech get that one when we're ranked higher and beat them head to head?

 

[CrazyPaco]

Not saying that I think you were directing it at me (I honestly don't know who exactly you are talking about.) but I went to the bowl game last year, I like the bowl somewhat this year, I would go if I could. I just don't see any reason to schedule these bowl games on a weekday afternoon.

I don't even remember how I was able to make it last year. But I just think having games at these times is flat out saying you don't care how many people go to your bowl or watch your bowl game on tv. I don't think any of us are in high school anymore, we don't get off a week and a half for Christmas. It's just terrible planning by the actual bowl.

Yet if you went to these bowls, you'd see opposing fans outnumbering Pitt 3 to 1, or worse. And this is why we keep getting passed on by more desirable bowls. One good turn out at the easiest bowl game for Pitt fans to possibly get to does not magically turn around the long standing reputation of our fan base for not giving a shit. This isn't on any particular person, but on the general attitude of our fanbase that Pitt deserves better. Guess what, these bowls pick teams based as much on their fanbase as anything else, and the Pitt fan base as a group certainly doesn't deserve better unless they keep buying up Pitt's allotment of tickets. There is zero reason for Pitt not to sell out for the Pinstripe, and if they don't, last year will be viewed as an outlier.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

We got royally screwed. Taxslayer Bowl has third highest payout of any non-playoff bowl, not sure exactly how much. So how does Georgia Tech get that one when we're ranked higher and beat them head to head?

The payouts are irrelevant! All ACC bowl money is distributed evenly among all members.

Guess you will have to find something else to complain about.

 

[Pittx9]

The Russell Athletic Bowl is on the same day. Wednesday December 28 and about three hours later.

Which is a little better, but still... why are these bowls scheduling weekday games so early? There is nothing at all beneficial about that is all I'm saying.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Which is a little better, but still... why are these bowls scheduling weekday games so early? There is nothing at all beneficial about that is all I'm saying.

Yet somehow other fan bases don't complain and find their way to the games.

 

[Pittx9]

Yet somehow other fan bases don't complain and find their way to the games.

I'm not saying anything about that. Enough people from Pitt will find their way to the game. But you can't seriously tell me for any Bowl it makes more sense to play in the afternoon on a weekday than during the evening or on Saturday. I'm speaking from the actual bowl's perspective, I just would never want to schedule my bowl at such a stupid time slot.

 

[Motor_Street]

The payouts are irrelevant! All ACC bowl money is distributed evenly among all members.

Guess you will have to find something else to complain about.

How do you know this? Can you post a link? I've never heard that before. So you prefer the Pinstripe vs a ,500 team over the Taxslayer?

 

[Pitt Law '04]

I'm not saying anything about that. Enough people from Pitt will find their way to the game. But you can't seriously tell me for any Bowl it makes more sense to play in the afternoon on a weekday than during the evening or on Saturday. I'm speaking from the actual bowl's perspective, I just would never want to schedule my bowl at such a stupid time slot.

It makes perfect sense because it's all about getting the bowl game on TV. That's why they play when they do. You can't seriously believe you know more about this than the people who work for the bowl games? Come on man.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

The payouts are irrelevant! All ACC bowl money is distributed evenly among all members.

Guess you will have to find something else to complain about.

If all ACC conference bowl teams play in higher payout bowls the pool money that's gets divided to all conference members is larger. So it does matter!

 

[CrazyPaco]

I'm not saying anything about that. Enough people from Pitt will find their way to the game. But you can't seriously tell me for any Bowl it makes more sense to play in the afternoon on a weekday than during the evening or on Saturday. I'm speaking from the actual bowl's perspective, I just would never want to schedule my bowl at such a stupid time slot.

TV determines the game times.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Wish we stayed in the American. We would have a much easier path to a Major Bowl. And if not are the other bowls in their lineup any worse than the slop we will get every year in the ACC if we don't win the conference championship?!

You've got to be kidding. Guess what bowl the American champion got.

 

[pittman71]

a 4 loss team that just gave up 61 points to the Cuse is what we are

 

[Pitt Law '04]

How do you know this? Can you post a link? I've never heard that before. So you prefer the Pinstripe vs a ,500 team over the Taxslayer?

Don't have a strong feeling either way. Certainly easier travel to NYC. But nearly all of the people on here complaining weren't going to the Pinstripe or the Tax Slayer. They just love to complain.

As for the link. Do your own homework. Try google. It's common knowledge that the conference shares bowl revenues.

 

[Pittx9]

It makes perfect sense because it's all about getting to bowl game on TV. That's why they play when they do. You can't seriously believe you know about this than the people who work for the bowl games? Come on man.

I see what you're saying, say there's NBA or whatever on at night... yeah take what you can to get on tv. But who is really at home watching tv on a Wednesday at 2 in the afternoon?

I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong about the whole thing, I'm just saying it's not even debatable... if they could get their game on at prime time, way, way, way more people would tune in and/or go to the game.

 

[Pitt69]

Quit complaining and get to the game. If you want better bowls, then we need to show up in better numbers.

From the Cheap Seats; bowls are like real estate, location, location, location. If you like going to NYC in December, you're probably in hog heaven. I would have gone to any game in Florida, but alas, that is not to be.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

a 4 loss team that just gave up 61 points to the Cuse is what we are

Bull. We are ranked 22 and beat two top five teams. We are a good team. What's the need to tear down your own team?

 

[pittman71]

Bull. We are ranked 22 and beat two top five teams. We are a good team. What's the need to tear down your own team?

tear down my own team? Exactly what did I post that wasn't factual?

 

[Pitt Law '04]

tear down my own team? Exactly what did I post that wasn't factual?

Did I post any thing not factual when I said we are ranked 22 and beat two top 5 teams?

It's all in how you want to look at it. You chose to be negative.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

If all ACC conference bowl teams play in higher payout bowls the pool money that's gets divided to all conference members is larger. So it does matter!

Pitt gets the same share whether Pitt plays in the tax slayer or the pinstripe. And so does Georgia Tech.

 

[pittman71]

Did I post any thing not factual when I said we are ranked 22 and beat two top 5 teams?

It's all in how you want to look at it. You chose to be negative.

Our record is no different than it was last season when we went to the Military Bowl. Offense was light years better but our defense was light years worse. If we beat Oklahoma State or Virginia Tech or North Carolina and are 10-2 then we can complain. Our inability to cover is the only reason we are not in the playoff

 

[wolf0717]

We got royally screwed. Taxslayer Bowl has third highest payout of any non-playoff bowl, not sure exactly how much. So how does Georgia Tech get that one when we're ranked higher and beat them head to head?

Miami got the RA Bowl over Pitt because the RA bowl thought they would travel better and have better TV ratings (debatable) They got the Pinstripe over the TaxSlayer due to Barnes. I read somewhere each of the schools eligible for a Tier 1 got to chose which bowl they wanted and he chose the Pinstripe because he thought the most fans would travel there. We never were in contention for the Gator.

 

[OriginalEther]

We got royally screwed. Taxslayer Bowl has third highest payout of any non-playoff bowl, not sure exactly how much. So how does Georgia Tech get that one when we're ranked higher and beat them head to head?

Geography.
We are as unattractive to the former Gator bowl as they would be to the Pinstripe.

They're playing a 7-5 Kentucky team, btw. Whooppee.
The Gator bowl has seen better days.

 

[panther.fan]

Geography.
We are as unattractive to the former Gator bowl as they would be to the Pinstripe.

They're playing a 7-5 Kentucky team, btw. Whooppee.
The Gator bowl has seen better days.

With the exception to the sun bowl opponent, the the ACC team's other Tier 1 bowl opponents are pretty underwhelming (Kentucky, Arkansas, Northwestern)

 

[Pitt Law '04]

With the exception to the sun bowl opponent, the the ACC team's other Tier 1 bowl opponents are pretty underwhelming (Kentucky, Arkansas, Northwestern)

Exactly. So it's a little rich to hear people complaining that we got "screwed" out of not being able to play Kentucky in the tax slayer!

Of course if we played Kentucky people would complain about the opponent because we played KU in the compass bowl five years ago! Once you realize it's complaining for the sake of complaining then it all makes sense.

 

[Piranha]

Reading this thread is so incredibly amusing.

Because I just know that the people bitching about the bowl selection would not have traveled to the game or purchased a ticket no matter where we were going or whom we were playing.

The whole thing is like clockwork. They never buy tickets or go to games during the regular season either.

You know who you are.

Yup - pathetic.

 

[panther.fan]

Exactly. So it's a little rich to hear people complaining that we got "screwed" out of not being able to play Kentucky in the tax slayer!

Of course if we played Kentucky people would complain about the opponent because we played KU in the compass bowl five years ago! Once you realize it's complaining for the sake of complaining then it all makes sense.

Its plain and simple- the ACC does not have great bowl affiliations. Like it or not, the BIG 10 does (you can be .500 and make the same bowl game as a top ACC team).

 

[Piranha]

Its plain and simple- the ACC does not have great bowl affiliations. Like it or not, the BIG 10 does (you can be .500 and make the same bowl game as a top ACC team).

If we had 15k or more fans traveling to every bowl game, and 25k or more for big bowl games then we would have better bowl games as well.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Its plain and simple- the ACC does not have great bowl affiliations. Like it or not, the BIG 10 does (you can be .500 and make the same bowl game as a top ACC team).

I agree with you. But it doesn't really matter because the people complaining wouldn't travel if we had good bowl tie ins.

 

[Pittx9]

The military bowl certainly isn't anything of a good bowl. Other than the loss I thought that was a great trip. I'm only upset from a selfish standpoint I can't go this year, it'll be like pulling teeth just to be able to watch it. But don't get me wrong, if I were able to attend this year I'd be pretty happy with where we're headed.

 

[Delpanther]

This is an upgrade over the Military Bowl at least.

Not by much

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Pitt gets the same share whether Pitt plays in the tax slayer or the pinstripe. And so does Georgia Tech.

Not really!
If all the ACC bowl teams play in a higher level higher paying bowl the total ACC pool is greater and each team gets more.
So the $ value of the bowl is important for each conference.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Not really!
If all the ACC bowl teams play in a higher level higher paying bowl the total ACC pool is greater and each team gets more.
So the $ value of the bowl is important for each conference.

I think you need to think that through again. Pitt gets the same share as every other ACC team no matter what.

 

[Cap pitt]

Northwestern has a good passing attack too. Granted im sure it is padded against lower tier teams but they do have a decent offense.

Really? The are 6 - 6

Northwestern has a good passing attack too. Granted im sure it is padded against lower tier teams but they do have a decent offense.

really? They are 6 - 6 and un ranked but they will steer it to be a close game, it should be like playing your little brother, northwestern is usually a bottom feeder in the big 10 I would have preferred Iowa, I think this was a slap in the face to Pitt. Seems like Pitt has to be 12 - 0 to get a half decent bowl. The NCAA committee put the screws to Pitt even if it makes you happy for such a short trip

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Really? The are 6 - 6

really? They are 6 - 6 and un ranked but they will steer it to be a close game, it should be like playing your little brother, northwestern is usually a bottom feeder in the big 10 I would have preferred Iowa, I think this was a slap in the face to Pitt. Seems like Pitt has to be 12 - 0 to get a half decent bowl. The NCAA committee put the screws to Pitt even if it makes you happy for such a short trip

Who screwed us? What committee? Do some of you even know what you're talking about?

 

[byrne]

Thrilled that Pitt is going to NY for bowl game. It's great fans can drive to NY. Can't believe some people are complaining about the location. We have our tickets and driving from NC to the game. It should be great fun. Go Pitt.

 

[oldpantherfan]

Shit location, shit bowl and against a shit team. This team deserved better. Awful job by the Athletic Department.

I agree we might as well ask for a extra home game. How rewarding is playing football in Maryland or new York in December ?
Cardiac hill stated its because of pitt's past travel history.
Thats bull and total disrespect to the team by bowl committees.