James Franklin, Rumblings To Leave Penn State, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

• James Franklin, Penn State coach: You keep hearing rumblings that Franklin would be interested. Franklin has no ties to Miami but probably would have a better chance to win in the ACC Coastal rather than an increasingly brutal Big Ten East.
  
  Rich Rodriguez, Arizona coach: Another guy you keep hearing rumblings about. Rich Rod may want to head back to his Eastern roots. Arizona has better facilities and can compete financially with Miami. As far as ability to win long-term and soon, Miami has Arizona beat.
  
  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...f-12-candidates-to-replace-al-golden-at-miami

 

[pitt-girl]

• James Franklin, Penn State coach: You keep hearing rumblings that Franklin would be interested. Franklin has no ties to Miami but probably would have a better chance to win in the ACC Coastal rather than an increasingly brutal Big Ten East.
  
  Rich Rodriguez, Arizona coach: Another guy you keep hearing rumblings about. Rich Rod may want to head back to his Eastern roots. Arizona has better facilities and can compete financially with Miami. As far as ability to win long-term and soon, Miami has Arizona beat.
  
  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...f-12-candidates-to-replace-al-golden-at-miami

Now THAT would be hysterical. However as a Pitt fan, I want Franklin to stay as long as possible. I don't (along with many PSU fans) think he's a very good coach.

 

[Teh Teh]

Yea lets hope James stays in state college!!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Now THAT would be hysterical. However as a Pitt fan, I want Franklin to stay as long as possible. I don't (along with many PSU fans) think he's a very good coach.

What I find interesting is the "Coaching Grapevine" has Franklin interested in leaving Penn State due to his realization he can't compete with Meyer, Harbaugh, and Dantonio, Fitzgerald and has his name out there so soon?

Just based on your own comments as posted, there are more and more at Penn State that are lacking support for Franklin as well thinking he is at best a Mediocre Coach? I have not heard but actually been told the Franklin's are not so Happy in Happy Valley!

Additionally, now that Golden, Munchak, Ruhle, Bradley and Jay Paterno are available for Penn State and there is a New President & Athletic Director with New PS4RS Trustees a move back to a Penn State Coach would be a bone that could unite the entire Program, University, and Alumni Fan base!

Moreover, can you see the astonishment on Penn State fans faces as Franklin & Staff leaves taking many of his Recruits with him like they did at Vanderbilt just to coach in the ACC?

Furthermore, it is clear that Franklin will be in for more blow out and big beatings by Michigan and MSU coming soon to Penn State revealing his poor coaching to compete with Elite Programs on Game day. If Illinois beats Franklin as you predicted, he is very lucky to have 6 wins, against dregs of the OCC and Big Ten?

Finally, Franklin's True Goal is to win a National Title ASAP and he is seeing with Meyers, Harbaugh, Fitzgerald and Dantonio that is far more difficult today and tomorrow than in taking over Miami where one does not have to leave South Florida to recruit Top Players?

One has to wonder why one of Franklin Three Star Recruit has Decommitted? Where there is smoke there is fire?


Clearly, someone has put Franklin name out there and perhaps his own Agent? Franklin name is out there even if it means he has to take a salary cut, something is not all Happy at Happy Valley?

 

[pittzap]

What I find interesting is the "Coaching Grapevine" has Franklin interested in leaving Penn State due to his realization he can't compete with Meyer, Harbaugh, and Dantonio, Fitzgerald and has his name out there so soon?

Just based on your own comments as posted, there are more and more at Penn State that are lacking support for Franklin as well thinking he is at best a Mediocre Coach? I have have not heard but actually been told the Franklin's are not so Happy in Happy Valley!

Additionally, now that Golden, Munchak, Ruhle, Bradley and Jay Paterno are available for Penn State and there is a New President & Athletic Director with New PS4RS Trustees a move back to a Penn State Coach would be a bone that could unite the entire Program, University, and Alumni Fan base!

Moreoever, can you see the astonishment on Penn State fan faces as Franklin leaves taking many of his Recruits with him like did at Vanderbilt just to coach in the ACC?

Furthermore, it is clear that Franklin will be in for more blow out and big beatings by Michigan and MSU coming soon to Penn State revealing his poor coaching to compete with Elite Programs on Game day. If Illinois beats Fanklin as you predicted, he is very lucky to have 6 wins, against dregs of the OCC and Big Ten?

Finally, Franklin's True Goal is to win a National Title ASAP and he is seeing with Meyers, Harbugh, FFitzgerald and Dantonio that is far more difficult today and tomorrow than in taking over Miami where one does not have to leave South Florida to recruit Top Players?

One has to wonder why one of Franklin Three Star Recruit has Decommitted? Where there is smoke there is fire?


Clearly, someone has put Franklin name out there and perhaps his own Agent?

If Frankin is getting $4.4 million/year and has no real pressure to win for a few more years, he's not leaving to go to a pressure cooker.

A lot of the Joebots are still buying his crap and are making "sanction" excuses for him.

 

[steel1975]

I really really really hope that Franklin doesn't leave so soon -- esp. want to see him during the next 4 seasons.

 

[NittanyJP]

He may or may not be a good coach...jury is out but to be fair the first time HCPN names comes up in an article for an open position does that mean he is looking to bail?

Penn state did lose a 3 star commit. But the reason has nothing to do with any rumors of a coaching change. It's very apparent why he is no longer part of the class. It's public info..You know that...why make things up?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Yea lets hope James stays in state college!!

There is information coming out that Franklin is bumping heads with the Director of Ethics & Compliance Office over following all their Reforms and Regulations. Franklin & Staff have committed some violations and there is still an NCAA Monitor on Campus!

The Penn State Trustees are divided and many think only a Penn State Alumnus can help unite the culture. They thought Franklin winning 10 games would do it quickly, but that does not like it will happen this year or next year or maybe ever under Franklin even with Intentional Lightweight Scheduling?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"NittanyJP, post: 446687, member: 6428"]He may or may not be a good coach...jury is out but to be fair the first time HCPN names comes up in an article for an open position does that mean he is looking to bail?
No one is saying that at all. Dodd is saying there have been rumblings and there have been on compliance issues that has been reported? Sport Writers do have sources! Agents do put names out? Franklin is not winning 10 games as predicted last or this year at least?

Penn state did lose a 3 star commit. But the reason has nothing to do with any rumors of a coaching change. It's very apparent why he is no longer part of the class. It's public info..You know that...why make things up?
I don't think Dodd made anything up? Why a 3 Star Recruit De-Committed is more strange than a 4 & 5 Star that is more in demand everywhere! We see that happen all the time.

The fact after just 2 seasons Franklin name has come up by a National Reporter at this time with so many more positions opening up, is not a coincidence, and fewer are uniting behind Franklin even on the BWI Boards and you can see it on topics?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Pittzap, post: 446681, member: 194"]If Frankin is getting $4.4 million/year and has no real pressure to win for a few more years, he's not leaving to go to a pressure cooker.
I disagree with respect, he is in a "Pressure Cooker" at Penn State right now? Do you think he will beat Meyer, Harbaugh, and Dantonio more than they beat him? sometimes one way to relieve the pressure to to go elsehwhere and Miami could do that for Franklin & Staff!

A lot of the Joebots are still buying his crap and are making "sanction" excuses for him.
A lot of them are saying he not a Good Coach either, especially Former Players!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I really really really hope that Franklin doesn't leave so soon -- esp. want to see him during the next 4 seasons.

Now turn that around, and wonder why many are calling Franklin a poor Head Coach last and this year on their own BWI Boards and the posts remain up, unlike how they were taken down about Paterno?

There is Fear in the Air at Penn State that Franklin can recruit but is a lazy game day coach and does not work as hard as Paterno did?

The Smarter Posters on BWI are posting here knowing this is the place a true discussion can take place without being banned or demean by their Cultists? They know their College Football and can see how bad the Penn State Players and eam is doing under Franklin!

Additionally, a New Coach replacing Franklin should Franklin leave that can coach better on game day and develop his players into complete Teams to compete with OSU, Michigan, Pitt, MSU and NW Coaches.

A New Good Game Day Coach would benefit from the Talent at Penn State that Franklin is having trouble developing his Players capable of beating more than Dregs and Mediocre Teams?

Even Recruits are having second thoughts as they see the poor coaching and lack of improvement after 21 games? Talk needs a Walk not just more Talk!

I am starting to wonder why the Narduzzi comments were so published last week when I was in the Hospital, and now it may have some legs....Franklin did not respond and actually ran away and how Meyer and his Players laughed at him and his Players was just a pure sign of disrespect as seen on TV!

 

[Pittx9]

Let's open up the phone lines, we have James who just took his talents to South Beach.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

I wish for jimmy franks to stay in crappy valley for a looooong time

 

[ratking17]

The funny thing is that aside from Greg at Rutgers for one year and the current temple coach this year (both benefiting from playing in weaker conferences) the Paterno coaching tree has been horrible. I would argue that Johnson now at Ohio state has been the most successful. I also said that if Narduzzi won 9 games this year, it would lead to a huge recruiting coup. If james from state college left, it probably benefits both programs as Narduzzi is able to be the top recruiting dominator in pa, and penn state would actually get a coach that can teach. Both programs win in that scenario. As it stands now, pitt just needs to continue to win as much this year as possible and Narduzzi will continue to show recruits and alumni he has pitt primed for the big time

 

[pittzap]

"Pittzap, post: 446681, member: 194"]If Frankin is getting $4.4 million/year and has no real pressure to win for a few more years, he's not leaving to go to a pressure cooker.
I disagree with respect, he is in a "Pressure Cooker" at Penn State right now? Do you think he will beat Meyer, Harbaugh, and Dantonio more than they beat him? sometimes one way to relieve the pressure to to go elsehwhere and Miami could do that for Franklin & Staff!

A lot of the Joebots are still buying his crap and are making "sanction" excuses for him.
A lot of them are saying he not a Good Coach either, especially Former Players!

I'm talking about a pressure cooker at Miami where he would be expected to win right off the bat. If they don't beat their rivals, it doesn't sit well. He wouldn't be given years to figure it out like he has a PSU. There are build in excuses that are in place for him.

At PSU, there are fans that are onto him for what he really is, but I don't think the administration is ready to cut him loose yet. Also, there are fans that are willing to wait for a few years to see what he can do when he gets his "talent" there.

 

[Pghfan]

pitt-girl stole my thunder.. I want James Franklin at psu for ever.. They could be a national program with a good hire..

 

[Saboteur]

There is information coming out that Franklin is bumping heads with the Director of Ethics & Compliance Office over following all their Reforms and Regulations. Franklin & Staff have committed some violations and there is still an NCAA Monitor on Campus!

The Penn State Trustees are divided and many think only a Penn State Alumnus can help unite the culture. They thought Franklin winning 10 games would do it quickly, but that does not like it will happen this year or next year or maybe ever under Franklin even with Intentional Lightweight Scheduling?

I have it on good authority that Franklin is setting up long term series with the following patsies. It will help his record.

Army....the Canadian army football team
Franklin & Marshall
Duquesne
Bucknell

Dominate the state....

 

[OmarLittle]

Miami isn't likely to pay him over 4 million, they don't have that kind of scratch.

And really, what has he shown that would make Miami think hes the guy to turn it around there?

If you were Miami, would this be a guy on your short list? I don't think so.

 

[Ditka1960]

I have it on good authority that Franklin is setting up long term series with the following patsies. It will help his record.

Army....the Canadian army football team
Franklin & Marshall
Duquesne
Bucknell

Dominate the state....

Beautiful.

They are in negotiations with Lehigh and Penn as well.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I think people are overselling the Miami job. Let's face it, their last hire was Al Golden from Temple. Before that Randy Shannon. They haven't been trolling the top of the food chain for coaches.

 

[pitt-girl]

I think people are overselling the Miami job. Let's face it, their last hire was Al Golden from Temple. Before that Randy Shannon. They haven't been trolling the top of the food chain for coaches.

No matter what, they still sit on a hot bed of recruits. That will always make that job relevant. Plus (and I know it doesn't necessarily mean a thing for recruits) Miami is an excellent school in a geographically desirable area.

 

[pitt-girl]

If Frankin is getting $4.4 million/year and has no real pressure to win for a few more years, he's not leaving to go to a pressure cooker.

A lot of the Joebots are still buying his crap and are making "sanction" excuses for him.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Oh my god, I just saw the author. It is Dennis Dodd. He probably listed Franklin to further troll and incite the Nitwits to which he cannot stand.

 

[Pghfan]

it goes without saying that Miami needs someone to dominate recruiting in south florida. But what they really need is someone a bit rogue, someone who straddles that line of ethics.. This running away from their past and changing their culture is BS, go with what works. Now they can't go back to the good ol days, I mean this is a different age but still, you can get that guy who not only relates with that culture down there but embraces it..

I know our boy at WVU isn't going anywhere but he'd be sweet at Miami, he is a bit reckless.. Same with Rich Rod, don't know if his seat is getting warm or not but they need someone like that, a bit off kilter.. I like strong but he is turning around Texas so he isn't going anywhere.. They hired a geeky white nerd with Golden, they need someone with some swag down there. Doesn't have to be a brother but someone that gives off that vibe..

 

[vegasgreed]

franklin would not be interested in a pay cut.

mario going back to miami wouldn't surprise me.

 

[ThePanthers]

I just don't see Franklin leaving PSU right now.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

No matter what, they still sit on a hot bed of recruits. That will always make that job relevant. Plus (and I know it doesn't necessarily mean a thing for recruits) Miami is an excellent school in a geographically desirable area.

Their stadium situation is worse than ours. They don't even have an indoor practice facility. I read that in the last 5 years they have had 33 practices that had to be called because of weather.

They have had a lot of talent under Shannon and Golden and did less than Wanny did with the talent he had at Pitt. I am just thinking the job is not going to be that desirable until they have some real facilities.

 

[pitt-girl]

I'm imagining how difficult this must be on Penny. I mean which part of the family tree does she need to embrace? Those favorite cousins in South Carolina or beloved aunt/uncle in Miami? And obviously it goes without saying that both she and Todd are extremely patriotic, so.......

 

[pittdan77]

What you're all missing here is that Franklin is a salesman first. Always. So if there's any chance to get some play out of having his name tossed around, he'll use it to his advantage. Wouldn't put it past the guy to ask for a raise.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The funny thing is that aside from Greg at Rutgers for one year and the current temple coach this year (both benefiting from playing in weaker conferences) the Paterno coaching tree has been horrible. I would argue that Johnson now at Ohio state has been the most successful. I also said that if Narduzzi won 9 games this year, it would lead to a huge recruiting coup. If james from state college left, it probably benefits both programs as Narduzzi is able to be the top recruiting dominator in pa, and penn state would actually get a coach that can teach. Both programs win in that scenario. As it stands now, pitt just needs to continue to win as much this year as possible and Narduzzi will continue to show recruits and alumni he has pitt primed for the big time

Great Post, I quite agree!

 

[Pittx9]

In all honesty, Franklin is not leaving Penn State unless he's one day fired. He's a brainwashed cultist himself.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

What you're all missing here is that Franklin is a salesman first. Always. So if there's any chance to get some play out of having his name tossed around, he'll use it to his advantage. Wouldn't put it past the guy to ask for a raise.

Great superb post may I add to it?????

"You are Correct Sir, it is Franklin's Greatest Asset for being a Great Recruiting Head Coach but it is Franklin's Greatest Weakness as being a Great Game Day Coach!"

The talk is he does not pay attention to how to improve his players on little things, and by no means works as hard preparing a Game Plan during the week before the games?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"pittzap, post: 447128, member: 194"]I'm talking about a pressure cooker at Miami where he would be expected to win right off the bat. If they don't beat their rivals, it doesn't sit well.
I understood what you meant and again disagree with you with all due respect because you are a Great Poster with Great comments relevant to CFB. I very much enjoy discussions with you too!

Miami gave Golden not only 5 years but another extension to get it done and now has big buyout is the details I know of and I am saying Miami is aware it has a rebuilding job now not just a coaching change?

I agree the Miami NFL Players Alumni have been upset for over 12 years since Coker left and they do put pressure on Coaches but Miami has ignored that for those years too!

One more thing many do not know but I do from a Sports Lawyer friend. Miami University Trustees and President did not make the change. It was totally left up to Blake the Miami Athletic Director to make it his decision anytime this year if he so chooses?

I am told and I can tell you that it is reliable info, Blake pulled that trigger after the big historical loss and not seeing improvement all year, and why let the bleeding continue so he is buying out Golden!

So, I am saying Miami is not the Pressure Cooker it once was, and I say this because I have followed that Superb University and Program that I have used as a measuring stick against Pitt Program Progress since 1996 which as been Mediocre?

He wouldn't be given years to figure it out like he has a PSU. There are build in excuses that are in place for him.
Although I agree with you on this aspect of the PSU Program. Te Pressure Cooker is actually Hotter at Penn State because of the Trustees Divisions and the task to beat Michigan, OSU, MSU, NW Programs.

At PSU, there are fans that are onto him for what he really is, but I don't think the administration is ready to cut him loose yet. Also, there are fans that are willing to wait for a few years to see what he can do when he gets his "talent" there.
Yes, you Correct Sir, but notice you support my own information by saying the Fans are Divided too on Franklin, and yet I am telling you the Trustees and PS4RS are very much at odds too. This means Pressure Cooking to win 10 Plus Games ASAP at Penn State but it is up against MSU, Michigan, OSU and others!

At Miami, many Top 4 & 5 Star Recruits are right next to the Campus, and Miami can come back winning in the Top 25 far faster than Penn State!

Yet, Franklin names has come up for the Miami job, and someone put it there, and there are rumblings at Penn State on Franklin's poor coaching by those divided fans?

In my opinion, rebuilding Miami the next 3 years is less pressure than what is happening to Franklin at Penn State right now and the next 3 years? Franklin is in his 21st game and is just 13-8 with Dregs and Mediocre wins and no signature wins! And everyone is questioning his poor coaching, even his recruits and players and fans?

We can agree to disagree!

 

[pittzap]

In all honesty, Franklin is not leaving Penn State unless he's one day fired. He's a brainwashed cultist himself.

If he feels the heat, he may "move on" before the axe comes down. He skipped out on Maryland right before Fridge was fired, same thing with Kansas State. He hasn't been anywhere longer than 5 years, with several one year stops.

 

[pbrad]

Maybe he works this into a pay raise. They would almost have to give it to him if another program came calling and they wanted to keep him.

 

[pittzap]

Maybe he works this into a pay raise. They would almost have to give it to him if another program came calling and they wanted to keep him.

Extension time!!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Pittzap, post: 448796, member: 194"]If he feels the heat, he may "move on" before the axe comes down. He skipped out on Maryland right before Fridge was fired, same thing with Kansas State.
To be fair, Franklin was promised and actually named the future the UMD Head Coach job but was told it would be in 3 Years, and and he would not wait so he went to Vanderbilt after being offered. He took some of his UMD Recruits with him too! One has to commend that kind of ambition, but Graham had such ambitions too?
He hasn't been anywhere longer than 5 years, with several one year stops.
You are correct sir, and why he has to state a few times he has no plans leaving Penn State last and this year? Yet, someone put his name out there for other jobs openings and that is fact not a perception and there have been doubts and rumblings at Penn State about his coaching?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Maybe he works this into a pay raise. They would almost have to give it to him if another program came calling and they wanted to keep him.

What Franklin has to do is quit having his name put out there, and forget about adding staff, and seeking more money and start WORKING on his coaching better!

 

[Pitt'85]

Why do Penny and Todd Graham remind me of Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker? Nice comment on Penny there pitt-girl!

 

[TD_6082]

Their stadium situation is worse than ours. They don't even have an indoor practice facility. I read that in the last 5 years they have had 33 practices that had to be called because of weather.

They have had a lot of talent under Shannon and Golden and did less than Wanny did with the talent he had at Pitt. I am just thinking the job is not going to be that desirable until they have some real facilities.

What kind of facilities did they have when they were kicking ass 15 years ago? Facilities are everything to schools trying to get in the game to attract talent. Miami is one of the few schools that can attract talent without the facilities.