James Franklin To Eagles?
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Bad coaching, bad AD, and poor recruiting. Hopefully Barnes, Gallagher and HCPN are putting all those demons to bed.
We have had some great individual talent over the years. And some future hall of famers.
Guy is a horrible coach. No way in hell he is even being mentioned by the Eagle leadership...
National Championship, #2 finish, 3 straight 11-1 seasons in that time frame. We did all that without covering up a pedophile.
No excuses made. I'm trying to figure out your handle. I get the jk=Joe Knew but I don't understand the 474?
Cap, I think you forgot the word "Giant" before Eagles in your post.
The only thing morally different between Franklin and paterno was that the psu stooges left a paper trail whereas Franklin had his players destroy the evidence.
It is kinda strange that with all the resources and money Ped U threw out for their new coach they chose one with a sketchy past! Only their BOT could have accomplished that!
I did not mention cover up! In light of everything that went on ( we probably do not know the half of it ) you would think the BOT at Ped U would have gone out their way to hire a squeaky clean coach! The threw big bucks out so they could have chosen many coaches so who did they chose…….jimmy “ I am checking out your wife” franks! Case rests
I did not say he invented the line but he used it. They had their chance to wipe the slate clean but NOOOOO
Don't forget hiring the FSU president that had great experience in making the Winston rape case disappear as well. A prerequisite for being employed at PSU in a high position of power is to have experience in covering up rape.
Of course the local DA in TN wanted the case to disappear. Franklin told the players to erase the video they took of raping the girl and THEN he turned it over the police.
Of course the local DA in TN wanted the case to disappear. Franklin told the players to erase the video they took of raping the girl and THEN he turned it over the police.
Haha... you proved who was the dumbest. When you can't spell dumb right
And get your facts straight,
FACT: vandy chancellor when asked to give franklin a vote of confidence said he would not do that.
Second: the most successful coach at vandy??? That's totally debatable, he beat teams with a record of 35-73. You could say he got extremely lucky because he played the schedule where all.the teams had bad records and bad seasons. And he disgraced Vanderbilt one of the most prestigious universities in the country. They actually voted on self improved sanctions after the franklin scandal.
I love your posts.. :Case rests" You do however need just a little more rest.. lol
One of my key questions is not where he was when the incident took place BUT what did he do after he found out about the incident? What did he tell his players to do?
TD-6082, Happy New Year and enjoy your postings. I Agree with you, and no way is Penn State Game a Win for Pitt! It is a Toss Up at Best!
Pitt-Cuse game every year is a struggle for Pitt, and so will be Pitt-Penn State even more the next 4 years!
I thought Franklin would be showing vast improvements by now at PSU and be competitive with OSU, Michigan, MSU!
But to be fair to other Lair Posters that disagreed with me when Franklin was appointed saying Franklin will be a Great Coach at PSU, I was wrong and have to credit the other Lair Posters right now.
They stated that Franklin's Coaching is suspect, and that is true right now, with no offense intended just objective views and backed-up by dumping his OC?
Franklin has a very Powerful Recruiting Program at Penn State with more Resources and the biggest in the Northeast only equaled by Michigan & Ohio State in the Big Ten.
This is what has to be objectively accepted as fact by any objective CFB Fan about the Penn State Program and I respect and recognize it, without envy, it is a Top 15 Program on that aspect and Franklin's is making it better but needs to win now!
Yet, Franklin's Coaching going up against Harbaugh, Meyer, and Dantonio is not doing as well on the GridIron Game Days, and that is true too.
Franklin does deserve all 4 to 5 years as you have said on the Lair, but I say now, Franklin should show much more improvement next year and perhaps we may see it against Georgia tomorrow?
As for Coach Pat, it is my belief he has proven he can coach up Pitt Players and Change Attitudes, and is a Game Day Coach with Half Time Adjustments, and clearly improving Pitt's Recruiting as well, but tough to out recruit MSU, PSU, OSU, and Michigan, to be fair.
Yet, in this New Year of 2016, Coach Pat Schedule is now tougher than 2015 was, and he will have to continue to improve his Program as well.
All Three Programs I follow closely, in WVU, PITT, PSU, and not afraid to be objective to say need vast improvement in 2016 to be Top 25 Teams.
As I see it right now, PSU Franklin is ahead on Recruiting and has everything he needs with the Powerful Penn State Program but needs better coaching against the Top of the Big Ten Programs that have both Recruiting and Coaching, and Franklin needs to prove he can beat them, and is recovering from the Paterno Penn State Scandal he left 5 the Program years ago?
WVU is just tad behind the elite of the Big-12 in OU, Texas, OKSU, Baylor, KSU, and TCU, but his switching to a Running Power Game could make WVU better for 2016 and they have a Top 30 Program, but the Big-12 Elite Programs have had edge on him for last 5 years!
PITT is just rebuilding its Top 40 Program but finally has Coach that has shown he is a Great Head coach that can improve his Players and Recruiting, but still rebuilding from the Pederson Poison Years and that will take another year or to to correct too?
Personally I hope the rumors are wrong. I would like to see him stick around so he can cause more dissension among the cultist and bury the bastards .H2P
Franklin greatest strength is his personality and ability to sell the Penn State Program and has those resources to do it! Franklin is clearly always looking to out recruit his competitors and he did showed that ability to improve Maryland that promised him the Head Coach job but wouldn't wait, and did improve Vandy Recruiting that resulted in winning.
Franklin's now has a bigger challenge at Penn State against B1G Coaches & Programs that can Checkmate his efforts but Franklin has a Powerful Program that should be able to compete B1G Top Teams, but has not shown it yet?
Franklin problem now is he has been paid a Top Salary and given all any Head Coach could want to win in the Top 25 and Top 10, and now has the Recruits to do it, but expectations are just as high at Penn State, and he has to win 9 to 10 games next year, or 10 in 2017, and that is hard to do when playing MSU, Michigan, OSU, Iowa, and Pitt now the next 2 years?
Like Foge at Pitt in 1980s, 9 wins won't cut it and Recruits are still going to Michigan, OSU and MSU just as much if not higher than Penn State? Iowa, Temple and Pitt has very good coaching too that makes it tougher, and Rutgers and Maryland are also new unknowns challenges in 2016 and beyond?
Franklin needed a Press Conference to answer his coaching at Penn State and then fired his OC 3 days later, and has not been any talk of an extension, all not good signs that Penn State will wait a little while longer, but 2016-17 better be better than 2014-15?
Meanwhile, OSU, Michigan, MSU, Iowa, has had some of their Best Years, and Pitt, Temple, Maryland, and Rutgers have upgraded their coaching!
Franklin knew he needed a Press Conference and had to make changes to compete on this higher level of demand that Penn State has given Franklin everything he needs to win 10+ Games, and no longer expects it, but demands it in 2016 and 2017?
I just saw Shell's Mother and Henry Grandparents before New Years in Moon Township, Shell is staying another year at WVU to graduate I was told, Henry happy at WVU!
Honestly is franklin could coach and did anything at all at ped state he probably would have gotten his dream job and be off to the NFL
He has asked publicly for more time and says he has a plan, and really good at communications, targeting recruiting, and emailing fans.
Penn State is content to give Franklin his 4 to 5 Years and to be fair, that is an reasonable request even without an Extension.
I still think he is a good coach but just has trouble beating Great Coaches like MSU, Michigan, OSU, NW, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin! All on some of the future Schedules until 2018 and then his final year in 2019. Temple and Pitt too?
He wins 10+ Games in any year he will get an extension, is my guess! Just my view not gospel!
School wise it would be a push, and it would be a hit to swap PSU for Pitt FB wise, but it doesn't matter to me. I would change out the 2 schools in a second if it were my call.
There are a number of terrific Nittany fans. I used to work for one. Unfortunately, they aren't the ones that make up the online PSU community. The type that are found on BWI, or on TOS, are some of the worst scum and villainy to be found on sports message boards. They make the empire fans(Buckeyes) seem like good guys.
"aged_wolverine, post: 699939, member: 2694"]School wise it would be a push, and it would be a hit to swap PSU for Pitt FB wise, but it doesn't matter to me. I would change out the 2 schools in a second if it were my call.
Ohio State was against Pitt in the 1950s in favor of MSU weakening Michigan, and did not want Pitt next to them in the Big Ten.
There are a number of terrific Nittany fans. I used to work for one. Unfortunately, they aren't the ones that make up the online PSU community.
Agree, and that is a shame, because they get tainted by the CULT!
The CULT are like the Israelite that built and worshiped a Gold Calf and those that did it and wanted to return a Culture of Hate of Judaism in Egypt, were not allow to see the Promise Land until that Generation all died out.
Once the Cult is gone, Penn State might be a better place to be?
The type that are found on BWI, or on TOS, are some of the worst scum and villainy to be found on sports message boards. They make the empire fans(Buckeyes) seem like good guys.
Agree again, Pitt knew way back when, now the world knows it too!
Ohio State was against Pitt in the 1950s in favor of MSU weakening Michigan, and did not want Pitt next to them in the Big Ten.
There are a number of terrific Nittany fans. I used to work for one. Unfortunately, they aren't the ones that make up the online PSU community.
Agree, and that is a shame, because they get tainted by the CULT!
The CULT are like the Israelite that built and worshiped a Gold Calf and those that did it and wanted to return a Culture of Hate of Judaism in Egypt, were not allow to see the Promise Land until that Generation all died out.
Once the Cult is gone, Penn State might be a better place to be?
The type that are found on BWI, or on TOS, are some of the worst scum and villainy to be found on sports message boards. They make the empire fans(Buckeyes) seem like good guys.
Agree again, Pitt knew way back when, now the world knows it too!
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After going the college route with Kelly and dumping him so soon why in the hell would the Eagles even consider another college coach next, let alone one who hasn't done anything yet? There is no comparison to the college careers of Kelly and Franklin, they are on totally different levels.
The only reason for this rumor if it actually exists is geographical proximity.
The only reason for this rumor if it actually exists is geographical proximity.
I doubt they do. It wont matter, something will have to give in the B1G eastern division. Dantonio is up there age wise, and already had one heart attack. Meyer ran from Fla over so called health concerns. Franklin cant coach.
BWI likes to bring up Harbaugh going back to the NFL, and yet he was quoted yesterday as saying this season was his favorite ever during his FB career. This was the guy that as a kid, sat in Schembechler's seat, with his feet on the desk, and told Bo he was trying out how his future job would feel.
I have more confidence of Jim still being with Michigan in 10 yrs than I do any of the other 3 still being around. My money is on Franklin to drop first.
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