Congrats to Coach Dixon on a good year. Gave Gonzaga all that it could handle.
Jamie with another early round exit...
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Calling the winningest coach in BE history “just ok” is an all time dumb statement on this board.
TCU is currently enjoying its best stretch in history. Pitt had their best stretch in history under him.
You are as dumb as a rock.
This is coming from the guy who lives Kevin stallings, and you call Dixon “ok”
Just stop posting.
The rest of the country failed to understand it too, and laughed at us as many cheered him leaving
Dixon has been to the tournament 14 of 20 years. He won multiple conference titles.
The only thing missing is a FF, but overall there probably aren’t ten coaches that have had a better 20 year run than him.
The only thing missing is a FF, but overall there probably aren’t ten coaches that have had a better 20 year run than him.
Losing to lower seeds 8 of 14 years and never beating a higher seed as a head coach (other than 8/9 game) is a trend of a coach that is not overly successful. That is the equivalent of saying the Big 10 is a great conference because they get lots of teams in the tourney but lose early.
Well when you’re a 1/2/3 it’s kind of tough to lose to higher seeds?
Good take.
JD was not really happy at Pitt over time. He did not like the move to the ACC, every other year was leveraging interest for a raise, his recruiting started fading, he got complacent with his assistants, etc.
I have no animus toward him, he did a LOT for the program.
But, he fell out of love with Pitt as much as Pitt fell out of love with him, and while he was super competitive during games, he just was not as invested in the program as he had been, they were not getting what he is giving TCU, frankly.
| Seed | ||||||
| 2005–06 | Pittsburgh | NCAA Division I Round of 32 | 5 | 1 | 1 | lost to 13 |
| 2007–08 | Pittsburgh | NCAA Division I Round of 32 | 4 | 1 | 1 | lost to 5 |
| 2009–10 | Pittsburgh | NCAA Division I Round of 32 | 3 | 1 | 1 | lost to 6 |
| 2010–11 | Pittsburgh | NCAA Division I Round of 32 | 1 | 1 | 1 | lost to 8 |
| 2017–18 | TCU | NCAA Division I Round of 64 | 6 | 0 | 1 | lost to 11 |
| 2021–22 | TCU | NCAA Division I Round of 32 | 9 | 1 | 1 | lost to 11 |
The highest seed he has ever beaten in the NCAAs is a 6 seed
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Jamie Dixon's later recruiting classes at pitt. Needless to say, things werent trending upwards
2015-
2016-
2015-
- Rozelle Nix
- Damon Wilson
- Jon Milligan
2016-
- Justin Kithcart
- Corey Manigault
- Crisshawn Clark
Great post. I feel exactly the same and have had the same in-person interactions with Jamie. Here‘s a fun fact for the Haters: TCU’ made the NCAA Tournament in consecutive seasons for the 1st time in 70 years under Coach Dixon. I often wonder what Jamie would have accomplished if Heather Lyke would have succeeded Smiley Boy rather than Lerch Barnes - H2P!
Not great. Somewhere between good and great. Great regular season coach. I'll give you that.
The hatred from this fanbase towards Dixon is honestly embarrassing
In the 13 years that Dixon was at Pitt, Pitt had a better winning percentage than TCU in EVERY single year.
In the 7 years that Dixon has been at TCU, TCU has had a better winning percentage than Pitt in every year except this one (.629 vs .667).
Over those 20 years:
Dixon:
467-220 .680 overall (194-156 .554 in conference)
TCU without Dixon and Pitt without Dixon:
271-363 .634 (92-252 .267 in conference)
Dixon teams won 196 more games, and 102 more confernce games than the non-Dixon teams in those 20 years!!
Yearly Winning Percentage Difference, Pitt - TCU
From 2003-04 to 2002-23
+.447
+.090
+.564
+.350
+.263
+.409
+.329
+.490
+.019
+.384
+.432
+.013
+.273
Dixon moves
-.131
-.386
-.197
-.015
-.007
-.274
+.038
As well as Capel did this year, this program would be much better off had they not lost Dixon.
In the 7 years that Dixon has been at TCU, TCU has had a better winning percentage than Pitt in every year except this one (.629 vs .667).
Over those 20 years:
Dixon:
467-220 .680 overall (194-156 .554 in conference)
TCU without Dixon and Pitt without Dixon:
271-363 .634 (92-252 .267 in conference)
Dixon teams won 196 more games, and 102 more confernce games than the non-Dixon teams in those 20 years!!
Yearly Winning Percentage Difference, Pitt - TCU
From 2003-04 to 2002-23
+.447
+.090
+.564
+.350
+.263
+.409
+.329
+.490
+.019
+.384
+.432
+.013
+.273
Dixon moves
-.131
-.386
-.197
-.015
-.007
-.274
+.038
As well as Capel did this year, this program would be much better off had they not lost Dixon.
Ya know, it's possible that taking over a program that had won 81% of its Big East games in the previous two years might have something to do with his BE winning percentage. BTW, How many Big East coaches reached Final Fours? How many went to multiple Final Fours? How many of them won National Championships?
How does his 41% Big 12 winning percentage stack up historically with other coaches in that league?
Dixon did a great job at Pitt from 2003-2011. He was awesome in that time period at Pitt. But that's it. There is nothing else on his resume that suggests he is great.
It was a good 8 year run. But we can all pretend Jamie has been really good the past 12 years.
Your three word response was as predictable as a Dixon first weekend tourney exit.
In fairness, when you’re a 1, the expectation is the FF. When you’re a 2, the expectation is the elite 8, and when you’re a 3, the expectation is the sweet 16. In all those years he fell short of expectations, and in all the others he never exceeded expectations. That’s hard to do.
Most of us love Jamie, and I’d take him back here in a second. But it’s fair to discuss his post season record. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. He’s my favorite coach of all time in any sport. But you do have to wonder when it’s going to happen for him. TCU is in a big boy conference now and a big city with plenty of resources. No reason why he couldn’t outperform the TT, ISU, Baylors, KSU’s, WVU’s consistently.
Dixon had earned some gravitas and that a$$hole Barnes treated him like a JV coach. He forced JD out, hired Stallings and then quit on Pitt and went back West. You couldn't have planned the destruction of the BB program any better
Indeed. It is true that recruiting was challenging later in his tenure…but if it had only been solely because of Dixon, wouldn’t recruiting have NOT fallen through the sewer hole like it did with Stallings and mostly with Capel up to now, finally?
Great (regular FF) Success isn’t solely due to the coach. In fact sometimes the coach is nearly ballast. Its willingness to pay players (more accurately, allow boosters to play) and to look past /cover up for bad things those players do (aka the top team in the tournament right now). Pitt wouldn’t do that. Hell they wouldn’t even let Jamie use Durand Johnson after getting caught with freaking weed. The entirety of NCAA D1 sports laughed at Pitt over that. No wonder he lost interest. And no wonder Pitt had to let Barnes broker a garbage hire like Stallings.
Smoking weed is far more harmful than supplying a gun for a murder ! Universities like Alabama are a disgrace .
Smoklng weed was against the law....what exactly is the charge (for something unlawfully done) you wish to levy against that kid from Alabama?
One thing that I do not miss about March and the Jamie Dixon era is that the vast majority of teams face this day where you finally lost in the tournament. And each March we get on this board and do much the same as we are doing now. Honoring the players and staff for getting them as far as they did. Sometimes we thought it would be further but whatever. However what Jamie’s time also brought to this therapy session was the inevitable news that his agent or whomever was flirting with some team looking to be their new head coach. Yeah, I don’t miss that and it may some day happen with Jeff but don’t think this year is one of those years.
nah .. he was awesome in BE Tournament too
does making a FF make him great? what does he need to do in your book?
I literally posted his records inThe tournament which are facts. You may not like those facts but please explain how they are “demonstrably false”?
Are you disagreeing that he has lost to three double digit seeds? That he lost to an 8 seed as 1 seed or that his best seeded victory was over a 6 in the tourney during his career?
Your response is demonstrably false.
was barnes the one that left pitt to go take a job and care for his elderly mother but then ended up taking another job that was still 1,000 miles away from her?
I cant remember if it was barnes or long. i get them mixed up..
uh yeah, post season success matters lol.
i love JIGs, zero regard of the post season to support their boy is hilarious to me.
from 2003-2011 he was arguably the best coach in college basketball .. he was more than great during that time period. he would consistently beat all-time great coaches in the Big East and consistently won in the toughest conference in CBB at that time. The Big East during this time was maybe the best conference ever .. it was insanely good and Dixon had Pitt at the top basically every year.
he took over a brain dead program. TCU was on life support and had zero tradition ... none.
TCU hoops has been around since 1908 .. they have 10 total NCAAT appearances ... JD has THREE of them. He has 30% of their NCAAT appearances ... 2018, 2022, 2023 ... if he stays, they'll be a mainstay in the NCAAT ... you reference his 41% conference record as if that's an indictment of the job he's done there ... look at the history of this program. He made this program more than relevant .. the Big12 has been clearly the best conference this year .. JD was 14-3 before his best player got hurt. Miles missed the next 6 games and they went 1-5. If Miles doesn't get hurt, JD isn't a 6 seed and TCU is competing for the Big12 title.
saying he's just a good coach and has done "ok" at TCU is ignorant and just extremely unintelligent. He's not coaching at Kansas. He's not coaching at Texas. He's coaching at friggin TCU ... 7 NCAAT appearances in 120 years before he got there.
Jamie (1 seed) lost to Jay Wright (3 seed) in the Elite 8 in 2009.
And ya know, 2009 doesn't even scratch the surface of Jay Wright's accomplishments at Nova.
I missed that in 2009. Jamie beat a 4 seed as a 1 seed. Then lost to a three seed. So his best win is over a 4 seed, not a 6 seed. Is that what your are hanging your hat on to demonstrate his greatness? Every other fact of his mediocre tournament performance is completely accurate. He is average to below average in the post season as a coach
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