Jeter to the Irish

[TD_istheman]

Facts are this , at least to me, Duzz is not a great recruiter , and he better start to find people that are. He has been no better than Sleepy, or the idiot before him.

Players come mostly for the coach and then can they get into the NFL, Duzz is having issues selling Pitt

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Was Jeter at the PITT PSU game? If he doesn't want to represent his hometown after seeing that then good luck to him wherever he goes.

 

[TD_istheman]

If he was your kid and and he accepted a scholarship to ND you'd be so proud . Good for him and his family.
Pitt will survive and some other kid who wants to go to Pitt will get that scholarship .

Not true at all for my family, so please speak for yourself.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Not true at all for my family, so please speak for yourself.

You'd be pissed at your kid , great Dad !

 

[djbpitt]

wow jeter to the Irish. Big loss for pitt

Donovan Jeter, meet Robert Foster. That is all.

 

[ViciousHitter]

I'm beginning to agree. I thought the Wisconsin blueprint was a great idea here and when that failed I was a little skeptical of trying another big 10 blueprint. But this one seemed different as Narduzzi actually has a pulse compared to Chryst.

Herman was the guy I wanted here, but he would have been gone so fast it would make Graham's stay seem long in comparison. Called out Houston fans for poor attendance, what would he think about Heinz? Beginning to think we need a system guy like a Holgerson or Malzahn that can put up a lot of points. The idea of trying to win in the trenches against Ohio State, ND, etc is not reasonable. Need to score a lot of points and hope for the best.

Totally agree. Forcing the ground and pound into a high scoring conference like the ACC is a losing idea. We have 0 passing game to speak of and our possible decent WR's are riding the bench on RS's.

 

[TD_istheman]

Didn't say pissed, I would have rather had him close to home, but ND means shiiit to me or my family, would have felt proud had it been Iowa

Or many other good schools.

 

[TD_istheman]

Let me also say, the way Kelly acts, he wouldn't been an option for my kid, I like hard nosed coaches but not a self absorbed prick, so I would say I am a good dad.

He wouldn't have played coach Duzz either, wouldn't allow that , would have handled things much different in my home

 

[ViciousHitter]

Facts are this , at least to me, Duzz is not a great recruiter , and he better start to find people that are. He has been no better than Sleepy, or the idiot before him.

Players come mostly for the coach and then can they get into the NFL, Duzz is having issues selling Pitt

This times a million. I am so sick of hearing how Narduzzi put 2 2 star kids in the NFL. He's been gone from Michigan State for over a year and they haven't missed a beat.

 

[CrazyPaco]

The children that were raped are mostly adults now, not 16-18 year old football recruits. Most people don't want to hear the crazies on either side. That includes you and many of us on here, who know how disgusting it is.

If you don't understand that, you may want to stop following anything other than Pitt land and building acquisition/construction.

Oh, that makes it okay. Most of the victims are now adults. When did Sandusky last abuse a child? As long as a football team that we live vicariously through gets wins that we can feel good about?

Meanwhile victims of abuse everywhere are watching what is going on and reading quotes all over the internet from people trying to downplay the role of power structure in the whole sordid story. It isn't Pitt fans writing scathing articles in national publications.

I tell you what, I'm okay with Pitt being Boston College forever if the alternative is plunging into muck others are willing to go, and I'm not talking about arbitrarily enforced NCAA rules. I'm not okay with people that think it is time to get over the power structure that enabled decades of child rape because it is inconvenient to a sport that needs to be cheered. Celebrating and whitewashing and burying abuse is not what needs to be walked away from.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Totally agree. Forcing the ground and pound into a high scoring conference like the ACC is a losing idea. We have 0 passing game to speak of and our possible decent WR's are riding the bench on RS's.

It's his 2nd year and he's coming off a pretty solid year one with an 8-5 (6-2) record(s). I think he'll be fine. They don't have much at WR at the moment. The upperclassmen aren't very skilled and underclassen like Henderson, Tipton Matthews, Flowers and Ffrench need some time to develop.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

What 2 stars kids? Most of the talent he brought in on D in his first class was 3 and 4 star kids. Lotta sky is falling nonsense because a dude picked the Irish. It happens.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

99% of this board are idiots , that no nothing about football or recruiting

Facts are this , at least to me, Duzz is not a great recruiter , and he better start to find people that are. He has been no better than Sleepy, or the idiot before him.

Players come mostly for the coach and then can they get into the NFL, Duzz is having issues selling Pitt

Please lay out your extensive knowledge and your qualifications so we know if you are among the 1% who does know what they're talking about. Part of the reason I do come to these boards is because there are some people who know way more than I'll ever know.

 

[vegasgreed]

paco, why are you bringing that stuff into a jeter to nd thread?

 

[TD_istheman]

Pitt fans mantra.....NEEDS TIME. That's why we don't win, been saying that since 89

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Or many other good schools.

There's no team I enjoy losing more than ND even PSU ,but can't deny its a great school with a far better football tradition. Graduating from ND offers far better post graduate opportunities for a Fb player than from Pitt.
This doesn't make Pitts staff bad recruiters the kid isn't obligated to stay local and they didn't lose him to Arkon or Dayton .

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Let me also say, the way Kelly acts, he wouldn't been an option for my kid, I like hard nosed coaches but not a self absorbed prick, so I would say I am a good dad.

He wouldn't have played coach Duzz either, wouldn't allow that , would have handled things much different in my home

Agreed here. Ultimately I probably wouldn't stand in the way but Kelly and Petrino are 2 guys who I'd desperately try to keep my kid away from.

 

[HailtoPitt]

paco, why are you bringing that stuff into a jeter to nd thread?

Jeter brought it in when his "God" twitter account suggested that Paterno was a legend.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Jeter brought it in when his "God" twitter account suggested that Paterno was a legend.

I didn't bring it up. I just followed up on a post which implied everyone should just leave such ideas go, which is asinine.

And I'll add losing Jeter to ND doesn't really bother me at all, we lose players all the time. It's just worse because he is local and the football staff have to move on to the next. I don't get caught up by decisions by kids that are at best difficult to predict the impact of 5 years out. His character, like the character of anyone that calls himself "God" and champions someone like Paterno, demonstrates immaturity at best. But he's no more than 18, so it has no bearing on how he may end up as an individual 4 years down the road...or it might...it is impossible to guess. Hopefully he'll be wiser and smarter. But ND is a superior football program where he'll receive superior media attention and enjoy superior facilities and a superior academic institution for most undergraduate pursuits, so I can't blame anyone for choosing to go there. It's not like he reneged on a verbal at the last minute.

 

[TD_istheman]

There's no team I enjoy losing more than ND even PSU ,but can't deny its a great school with a far better football tradition. Graduating from ND offers far better post graduate opportunities for a Fb player than from Pitt.
This doesn't make Pitts staff bad recruiters the kid isn't obligated to stay local and they didn't lose him to Arkon or Dayton .

The staff isn't bad, they just are not very good , some here in the middle

 

[TD_istheman]

It does look bad when a coach has spent 2 years recruiting a kid, kissing his azz basically , and gets flipped in 24 hours.

I wonder if that ever happened to Jackie , cause I know he wouldn't have been played like that. Duzz being his first program, needs to learn to CLOSE

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Pitt fans mantra.....NEEDS TIME. That's why we don't win, been saying that since 89

He just had the best first year record of any Pitt hire since the early-80s, right? Likely headed for another 8+ regular season this year as well. This isn't Walt, Wanny, Graham and Chryst winning 6 games to start. Or, worse yet, Hackett of Majors II winning 3 games.

I'm not anointing Narduzzi as the next great Pitt HC. But, so far, I do like him better than the last half a dozen hires.

 

[thebadby2]

I'm so f'n sick of hearing about the Michigan State blueprint. I want the Houston blueprint. A coach who walks in and instantly wins and makes his team better. I'm sick of waiting for Pitt to be better.

As much as I like Narduzzi, I tend to agree with you. In today's version of college football, I'll take the offensive genius as HC over the defensive genius every time. Tom Hermann was a slam-dunk, can't miss hire.

The flip side is that a guy like Hermann would never stay at a place like Pitt for more than 3-4 years, and he's biding his time at UH until the exact right job opens up. I do think Narduzzi is a good coach, he has a good plan, and the MSU blueprint does work, although not nearly as quickly. it requires recruiting and player development, something Narduzzi hasn't had the time or chance to succeed or fail at yet. I think he stays with us unless and until the MSU job opens up, at which time he would almost certainly be MSU's top choice. He would be a seamless replacement for Dantonio and MSU would pay handsomely for him.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

There are like 10 posters, that have good info, know the game, a few, and you don't know who, but I do, that played at Pitt who post here. The rest are full of shiiit and offer only opinions.

I don't mean that in a bad way, but we all just post opinions and don't know crap, me included, a very small few know what's going on at Pitt

Aahhhh. Ok. Got it. I misunderstood. I read a statement like that and assumed you were in the 1%. I'm definitely in the 99 myself.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

As much as I like Narduzzi, I tend to agree with you. In today's version of college football, I'll take the offensive genius as HC over the defensive genius every time. Tom Hermann was a slam-dunk, can't miss hire.

The flip side is that a guy like Hermann would never stay at a place like Pitt for more than 3-4 years, and he's biding his time at UH until the exact right job opens up. I do think Narduzzi is a good coach, he has a good plan, and the MSU blueprint does work, although not nearly as quickly. it requires recruiting and player development, something Narduzzi hasn't had the time or chance to succeed or fail at yet. I think he stays with us unless and until the MSU job opens up, at which time he would almost certainly be MSU's top choice. He would be a seamless replacement for Dantonio and MSU would pay handsomely for him.

Herman would have been gone after one year, assuming it was a good one. Beginning to have my doubts on this whole copying the blueprint thing.

 

[PantherO]

Sometimes this board is like listening to Political debates. Nothing is as Far left or as Far Right as people make it out to be.

Pitt doesn't get a recruit and it seems either Nard cant recruit, or this kid sucks and glad we didn't get him.

Part of this board just likes to through things out to stir the pot.

Times like this people just need to step away from the keyboard.

 

[ncyajleel]

So you teach your kid to show respect, take responsibility, and be a man of his word? Are you nuts? Nobody teaches their kids that way anymore!!

Let me also say, the way Kelly acts, he wouldn't been an option for my kid, I like hard nosed coaches but not a self absorbed prick, so I would say I am a good dad.

He wouldn't have played coach Duzz either, wouldn't allow that , would have handled things much different in my home

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Herman would have been gone after one year, assuming it was a good one. Beginning to have my doubts on this whole copying the blueprint thing.

Why? Danotino was 7-6, 9-4 and 6-7 in his first three seasons with Sparty. Then, broke out with 11+ wins in 5 of the last 6 years.

 

[DMD6037]

This young man would have been a nice get and boosted recruiting class star rankings and all that. But let's remember that he has earned those stars playing in AA against such football powers as Mohawk, Shenango and New Brighton. He has good metrics but has played against schools that really don't offer week in week out stiff competition. Somewhere outside the microcosm of the WPIAL, there is a 3star kid who plays against actual competition in a place where WPIAL 4 star recruits are probably 2 star guys. If he was a 4 star 5

 

[OriginalEther]

All I'll say is that if Chryst lost him...or some of the other defensive recruits that have gone elsewhere.....the board would be crucifying him right now.

 

[Saboteur]

Facts are this , at least to me, Duzz is not a great recruiter , and he better start to find people that are. He has been no better than Sleepy, or the idiot before him.

Players come mostly for the coach and then can they get into the NFL, Duzz is having issues selling Pitt

A well earned ignore.

 

[vegasgreed]

the truth. it sucks, but true.

All I'll say is that if Chryst lost him...or some of the other defensive recruits that have gone elsewhere.....the board would be crucifying him right now.

 

[CorsosRevenge]

Some of you really need to research college football outside of PA before you begin babbling. Give yinz a hint - Tom Herman isn't the first guy in the past 10 years to win big at Houston.

 

[fivetoolprospect]

I had a bad feeling about jeter to Pitt once he start calling out Pitt fans about paterno

 

[Jpripper88]

Oh, that makes it okay. Most of the victims are now adults. When did Sandusky last abuse a child? As long as a football team that we live vicariously through gets wins that we can feel good about?

Meanwhile victims of abuse everywhere are watching what is going on and reading quotes all over the internet from people trying to downplay the role of power structure in the whole sordid story. It isn't Pitt fans writing scathing articles in national publications.

I tell you what, I'm okay with Pitt being Boston College forever if the alternative is plunging into muck others are willing to go, and I'm not talking about arbitrarily enforced NCAA rules. I'm not okay with people that think it is time to get over the power structure that enabled decades of child rape because it is inconvenient to a sport that needs to be cheered. Celebrating and whitewashing and burying abuse is not what needs to be walked away from.

You are unhinged.

None of that has anything to do with 16-18 year old recruits saying they don't want to be bombarded by Pitt fans on twitter saying they shouldn't go to PSU because #JoeKnew.

You really should just step away and re-evaluate things. You obviously love Pitt, but you are as homer as it gets and can't even grasp reality.

 

[JD1976]

Some of you really need to research college football outside of PA before you begin babbling. Give yinz a hint - Tom Herman isn't the first guy in the past 10 years to win big at Houston.

Exactly. From 2003-11, they had 2 different head coaches -- Art Briles and Kevin Sumlin. Pitt hasn't had coaches of that caliber since Jackie Sherrill.

 

[JD1976]

Let's just move on. Jeter isn't the first big time kid to do this to Pitt. He's just the first play with everyone's head over Twitter. Imagine if Anthony Morelli had a twitter account back in the day.

 

[pittmeister]

A well earned ignore.

Same here...

 

[chethejet]

Houston is loaded with Div 1 talent. Herman recruited a top class with recruits who are with in the greater Houston area. That is why other Big 12 coaches don't support him and Houston joining the Big 12. No where comparable to Pitt. Maybe late 60's and 70's with loaded WPIAL talent but not now. As I posted Narduzzi will move on. Plenty of talent out there in the Ohio, NJ, ACC footprint to develop and mold.