I think Capel should shut down this year's recruiting as far as high school kids and JUCOs are concerned and only consider bringing in Grad Transfers to fill any of the remaining scholarships. I have said all along that if Capel's recruiting prowess was going to become a major factor it would be next year. We have offered a ton of 2020 high level prospects and really need to have 4 or 5 openings. I see no sense in bringing in any average players that will take up a ship next year.
JMO....but Sy or no SY....
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Case by case. Sometimes there is a legit late comer on. But, by and large I agree.
if we don't land Sy, who the hell do we have to play Center? kene dude is out, Samson George is going to be in the library, finishing his degree free of charge, with zero chance of playing, compliments of our 12th scholarship fund.
At some point, you need a tall guy, even if he isn't good.
At some point, you need a tall guy, even if he isn't good.
If we take 5 this year, we have 3 open for next year, with possibly 4 if Johnson declares for the NBA. Maybe George moves on next year, but the 13th ship really is not affecting things. I feel Capel has done a nice job of balancing classes. 3/4/3/3.
You seem to not realize that if we don't yet get a big better than Brown or good enough to match Brown that we could lose as many or more games next season as we did last year and as a result not show the minimal W-L progress that would keep those offered 2020 guys interested (unless, possibly, we get their signed LOIs in early November).
In any event--the math.
Today (May 10) for 2019: 10 on ship --- 3 ships open
2020 Scenario #1: One (1) open ship from 2019, Kene graduates/grad transfers (1 ship) and 2 grad transfers complete eligibility so there are 4 ships available. Five (5) available if a player like Sampson graduates early and grad transfers elsewhere.
2020 Scenario #2: If Sy commits--One open ship from 2019, Kene graduates/grad transfers (1 ship) and 1 grad transfer completes eligibility and there are 3 ships available. Four (4) available if a player like Sampson graduates early and grad transfers elsewhere.
Bottom line for me--I would rather add Sy and only have 3-4 ships than risk having another season ending 4 or more games under 0.500 and the bad look that would create for recruiting in 2020 and beyond.
So let's say we don't get Sy and Kene cant go. George isn't major D1 and Coulibaly doesn't appear ready. So what happens if Brown gets hurt? Do we use a Center rotation of George and Coulibaly? Do we go Toney at the 5? Champagnie? I mean we are in desperate need of bigs.
If there is a 2020 high school recruit who Capel wants reclassifies to 2019, you certainly consider taking him ...... fortunately for us, that's what happened last year and we got some very good players ..... if players are going to reclassify, it will likely happen soon ...... I think you keep recruiting from all angles but I agree that you only take players who you feel can help you ....... we need a big badly and Sy's decision IMO is huge.
Crazy that people have time/find enjoyment with making accounts just to troll like this.
Well gee whiz. Haven't we been saying for months on here that "we are in
desperate need of bigs." We need Bigs even if Kene can go, and even if
Sy signs with Pitt, we could use another one.
As you asked, "what if if Brown gets hurt?" Answer....we're in deep doo-doo.
Here's a bad scenario that I'm sure Capel has considered.....We don't sign Sy;
Kene can't play, and Brown gets hurt. If that were to occur, Capel I'm sure
would have at least a backup Big, even if he were bad.
As of now, we don't really know Kene's status. So, if he is available, we are IMO
better than last year based on experience alone. As has been pointed out by
a number of us on here, we need to make a jump forward in wins in 2020.
To do this it's obvious, we need to add an inside presence to the program.
Why bring in a big just to bring in a big. If he would be an immediate upgrade then yes. That’s where they should be looking grad transfer.
oh, my bad Wbr, I agree def. grad transfer big, one year guy. We land Sy (I hope) then get another big guy, maybe a bruiser to eat up minutes and grab a couple boards.
Don't need a scorer, well we do but we wont find one so get a guy who's tall and can get some boards and play 5-6 mpg.. There has to be a few of them out there..
No where did I say we shouldn’t take Sy. I said we should shut it down whether we get Sy or not.
If he is a kid you would take next year anyway then by all means. That would be a no brainer.
There's at least one on every board it's what gets them off.
He's actually more pleasant than some of the tired same arguments I see go on forever, and then are rehashed and then started back over again.
That would leave us bare bones dry as it gets.
I think we could see a reclass happen.
OK But, unfortunately we cannot afford to do that (shut things down) if Kene can't play and SY goes elsewhere. We just simply cannot have only 1 big on the roster unless we want to revert to a Stallings-like 8-24 season and not even have 3 star recruits wanting to commit to us for 2020 and 2021. If we wind up there Capel will have completely failed and we will be looking for another coach.
We must bring in at least 1 big and should bring in 2. You bring in the best available players regardless. Reclass possibilities, Transfers, Jucos - by whatever means necessary.
You're absolutely right. We gotta have at least Brown and another Big. If we don't
and Kene is out, and Brown gets hurt, we are left with George, Coulibaly, and Toney.
You think Toney would stay if being forced inside again for another season?
Worse yet, we would probably have a worse record than last year.
We're gonna have a new Big or two. Who will he/they be? I have no idea, but
I want Sy and another Big to join us this year. We posters can only guess
on this board. I doubt Capel is going to enlighten us....LOL.
There aren’t any grad transfers at center left in the portal. There are some decent PF that by their size could help at the 5 spot. We are basically a 5 out Offehsive team anyway. So we don’t post up big guys. Where it hurts not having a big guy though is rebounding and defensively.
We currently have 3 open ‘ships. There is no reason not to have a full squad. You need guys in case of injuries and practice purposes. If we cannot add underclassmen of value, then add Grad Transfers from wherever. You’d think some 6-7 kid from a lower level school would want to test his skills in the ACC. There is an opportunity for PT here.
PT doesn't seem to be the factor that we all think that it is .
It sure looks like Pitt needs tremendous improvement from their returning guys or it’s going to be a very long season .
It’s kind of ironic , but Kevin Stallings is responsible for Pitts two best bigs .
Being that the rumor that Chewy’s surgery was far more complicated than expected hasn’t been denied isn’t good news .
