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Hamstring issue. Will run at Pitt pro day
He did a great job with the bench press though, and met with many teams. He is obviously a physical specimen for teams, so I think he will go day 2 if he has a good run at the Pitt pro day.
Nobody cares about his bench. He needed to run in the same environment as everyone else. This hurts him.
Pro day times are always taken with a grain of salt. He's an undersized safety and needs to run a fast time. Any questions about his time hurt him. If he's not in the low 4.4s at Pitt's pro day he'll be a 3rd day pick. He may be there already.
Why bother. This guy is cluelessHis 40 isn't what concerns teams.
Also, Indy times are taken with a grain of salt too due the methods.
Why bother. This guy is clueless
Maybe, but I've been consistent in my thoughts on Whitehead even many on this board were claiming 1st rounder. His ceiling with a smoking 40 time in front of everyone at the combine was 2nd round. He didn't get that chance to wow everyone.
His tape doesn't help him. He's a safety who is not great in coverage and doesn't play the ball well. His best attribute is run support and he's not big enough to handle that in the NFL.
I have never been as enamored as others with his game.
No, they are not.His 40 isn't what concerns teams.
Also, Indy times are taken with a grain of salt too due the methods.
Bob Sanders only played 50 career games, over 8 seasons, because of injuries. He only had 2 productive NFL seasons. Whitehead is not even close to Polamalu, so if his next best case is Bob Sanders, that is an indictment (like Gunga was saying) of his potential, not a positive.I agree with your assessment on Whitehead. I personally don't think him having a great 40 time helps all that much. I think his game tape has sealed his fate whether good or bad.
I do think he can a factor in the run game though. Bob Sanders and Troy were about the same size as Jordan and dominated the run game. If he plays in cover 6 or 3 team he could be fine.
No, they are not.
Which is then adjusted for the reaction time. However, those scouts and GMs rely on their clock as captured in Indy and with partial electronic timing, not the Pro Days.Yes, they are. They aren't fully electronic, scouts and GM's still rely on their clock.
Which is then adjusted for the reaction time. However, those scouts and GMs rely on their clock as captured in Indy and with partial electronic timing, not the Pro Days.
I'm not sure why you posted all this. They are adjusted for accuracy and they are the most accurate and comparable times in the process.Indy uses electronic finishes and they aren't truly adjusted for accuracy. Handheld-Electronic is supposed to be adjusted between + .1-.+17. Most track coaches have leaned on the slower side. The industry standard for handheld accuracy is +.24-+.33.
The combine has its share of head scratching performances when comes to what is accurate and what is reported. Go back to Taylor Mays as an example.
Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson both were the very best sprinters who were coming off blocks and ran 4.67 on a rubber track in spikes.
It is ridiculous to try and minimize Bob Sanders. He was a heck of a player. Bottom line.Bob Sanders only played 50 career games, over 8 seasons, because of injuries. He only had 2 productive NFL seasons. Whitehead is not even close to Polamalu, so if his next best case is Bob Sanders, that is an indictment (like Gunga was saying) of his potential, not a positive.
It isn't ridiculous. He only had 2 seasons where he played more than 2 reasons. The reason is because he was an undersized box safety who had to play with reckless abandon to be effective. If that is Whiteheads best case (the person I responded to made that, not me) that isn't very good.It is ridiculous to try and minimize Bob Sanders. He was a heck of a player. Bottom line.
2-time All Pro, Defensive Player of the Year, and Super Bowl champion. Dungy spoke glowingly of him. Put your shovel away.It isn't ridiculous. He only had 2 seasons where he played more than 2 reasons. The reason is because he was an undersized box safety who had to play with reckless abandon to be effective. If that is Whiteheads best case (the person I responded to made that, not me) that isn't very good.
And he only effectively played those two seasons because of all the injuries he suffered while being an undersized box safety.2-time All Pro, Defensive Player of the Year, and Super Bowl champion. Dungy spoke glowingly of him. Put your shovel away.
I'm not sure why you posted all this. They are adjusted for accuracy and they are the most accurate and comparable times in the process.
And he only effectively played those two seasons because of all the injuries he suffered while being an undersized box safety.
He was GREAT when he played. He rarely played. That is the problem.Dude he was the DPOY...
Dungy rarely played single high. Pre-snap he was 4 spoke on the back end. He loved 2 deep and in obvious run situations they'd rotate to cover 6.
Calling him purely a box safety is ridiculous..
The issue is comparable setting and conditions. That's why the combine is vastly preferred over pro day times.What's your definition of accuracy?
Tell me why they don't use FAT timing?
When they did, they didn't publish the results. I wonder why? Hint... it's what track coaches at the highest levels have said for years. And, for that reason alone is why they don't utilize fully automated timing. The combine would struggle to get the top prospects to run at Indy like they did in the late 90's due to slow times due to Indy's surface.