JR Smith trying to play on NC A&T golf team

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'm not sure what rule would prevent him from doing it. Plenty of former pro (minor league) baseball players have gone and played D1 football.

And with that comes perhaps the greatest SMF idea ever: Terrelle Pryor, at 32, should join the Pitt basketball team. Give him a year of getting back into basketball shape and he will be an ACC-level player.

 

[DT_PITT]

I'm not sure what rule would prevent him from doing it. Plenty of former pro (minor league) baseball players have gone and played D1 football.

And with that comes perhaps the greatest SMF idea ever: Terrelle Pryor, at 32, should join the Pitt basketball team. Give him a year of getting back into basketball shape and he will be an ACC-level player.

 

[NCPitt]

I'm not sure what rule would prevent him from doing it. Plenty of former pro (minor league) baseball players have gone and played D1 football.

And with that comes perhaps the greatest SMF idea ever: Terrelle Pryor, at 32, should join the Pitt basketball team. Give him a year of getting back into basketball shape and he will be an ACC-level player.

The problem with your ideas is that they are never well researched. Pryor's collegiate eligibility is over. He, like all college enrollees, had 5 years from the date of his first enrollment to participate in any college sports.

"For Division 1 schools, the NCAA determines that a student-athlete initially has a total of four years of eligibility, to be used within a period of five calendar-years (with some specific exceptions). The five-year period starts counting once the student registers and attends the first day of class in a full-time program in a collegiate institution."

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The problem with your ideas is that they are never well researched. Pryor's collegiate eligibility is over. He, like all college enrollees, had 5 years from the date of his first enrollment to participate in any college sports.

"For Division 1 schools, the NCAA determines that a student-athlete initially has a total of four years of eligibility, to be used within a period of five calendar-years (with some specific exceptions). The five-year period starts counting once the student registers and attends the first day of class in a full-time program in a collegiate institution."

Correct. The fact that JR Smith didnt go to college threw me off just like all those minor leaguers who went to play D1 football at like 25 years old. Not sure why Smith wouldn't be allowed to join the golf team.

 

[HOF Coach]

The problem with your ideas is that they are never well researched. Pryor's collegiate eligibility is over. He, like all college enrollees, had 5 years from the date of his first enrollment to participate in any college sports.

"For Division 1 schools, the NCAA determines that a student-athlete initially has a total of four years of eligibility, to be used within a period of five calendar-years (with some specific exceptions). The five-year period starts counting once the student registers and attends the first day of class in a full-time program in a collegiate institution."

Here’s SMF doing his real job:

 

[FireballZ]

Here’s SMF doing his real job:

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You genuinely think he's that good at his real job?

 

[NCPitt]

Here’s SMF doing his real job:

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That guy is good. I expected a misspelling ... shcool.

 

[NCPitt]

Here’s SMF doing his real job:

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SMF's work.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Let’s bring the conversation back to JR Smith thinking that as a 5 handicap he could make the men’s golf team at A&T . A casual golfer whose a 5 handicap would quickly find out they’re nowhere as good as they think they are when they play in tournaments at unfamiliar courses against top level amateur golfers . There’s no give me a 6 and pick your ball up !

This is the same thinking that MJ could be a Major League Baseball player or the guy who dominates your intramural league thinking he could play for Pitt !

But good luck to him bucking heads with these kids who fly the ball 300 yds !

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Let’s bring the conversation back to JR Smith thinking that as a 5 handicap he could make the men’s golf team at A&T . A casual golfer whose a 5 handicap would quickly find out they’re nowhere as good as they think they are when they play in tournaments at unfamiliar courses against top level amateur golfers . There’s no give me a 6 and pick your ball up !

This is the same thinking that MJ could be a Major League Baseball player or the guy who dominates your intramural league thinking he could play for Pitt !

But good luck to him bucking heads with these kids who fly the ball 300 yds !

It'll be interesting to see these guys who go straight to the G-league try and play a different sport in college if basketball doesn't pan out like they hoped. Some may have been very good baseball or football players.

As for Smith, what would a 5 handicap translate to? D3?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Let’s bring the conversation back to JR Smith thinking that as a 5 handicap he could make the men’s golf team at A&T . A casual golfer whose a 5 handicap would quickly find out they’re nowhere as good as they think they are when they play in tournaments at unfamiliar courses against top level amateur golfers . There’s no give me a 6 and pick your ball up !

This is the same thinking that MJ could be a Major League Baseball player or the guy who dominates your intramural league thinking he could play for Pitt !

But good luck to him bucking heads with these kids who fly the ball 300 yds !

I’d bet he’ll be on the team. How much he plays will be the question. I imagine they’ll throw him out on the course a few times but he’s probably not gonna have a score that counts. Most casual golfers would kill to get to a 5 but he’ll get carved up in college. And as you said there’s golf, then there’s tournament golf.

I know years ago I read where there were many more slots available on HBCU teams than black golfers. I think that’s still the case. I have no clue how common it is for non black students to attend HBCUs but those golf teams were filled up with non black athletes. And I suspect that’s still the case. I know Steph Curry’s been involved helping financially donating a ton of $$ and trying to bring attention and maybe this will help too.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

I’d bet he’ll be on the team. How much he plays will be the question. I imagine they’ll throw him out on the course a few times but he’s probably not gonna have a score that counts. Most casual golfers would kill to get to a 5 but he’ll get carved up in college. And as you said there’s golf, then there’s tournament golf.

I know years ago I read where there were many more slots available on HBCU teams than black golfers. I think that’s still the case. I have no clue how common it is for non black students to attend HBCUs but those golf teams were filled up with non black athletes. And I suspect that’s still the case. I know Steph Curry’s been involved helping financially donating a ton of $$ and trying to bring attention and maybe this will help too.

If you look on their website they have several international players and a white kid . Most schools have qualifiers for a few of the spots for every tournament they play , it’s beyond competitive. Because of who he is I’m sure that they’ll allow him to practice with the team , but just like anyone else he’ll need to earn his spot .

Athletes from other sports think because they can break eighty that if they applied themselves they can compete at the highest levels . It’s just like everything in life the elite players are almost entirely that way because they’re gifted very few guys ever achieve greatness in golf from just hard work alone .

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

If you look on their website they have several international players and a white kid . Most schools have qualifiers for a few of the spots for every tournament they play , it’s beyond competitive. Because of who he is I’m sure that they’ll allow him to practice with the team , but just like anyone else he’ll need to earn his spot .

Athletes from other sports think because they can break eighty that if they applied themselves they can compete at the highest levels . It’s just like everything in life the elite players are almost entirely that way because they’re gifted very few guys ever achieve greatness in golf from just hard work alone .

Agreed. All I was sure of is if he’s deemed eligible he’ll be on the team.

And I get it re: the elite athlete. The Jerry Rice on the Korn Ferry was cute. Steph Curry and Romo in particular didn’t embarrass themselves but they’re nowhere near good enough.

Then a lot of guys were gonna work on their games and play the Senior Tour. How’d that work out? John Brodie had some success a million years ago. Rick Rhoden may have qualified for an event or 3. But people for the most part have absolutely no idea how good these pros are and how far away “good” or even scratch golfers are away from that level. So far they’d likely never ever get there no matter how much work they put in.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Agreed. All I was sure of is if he’s deemed eligible he’ll be on the team.

And I get it re: the elite athlete. The Jerry Rice on the Korn Ferry was cute. Steph Curry and Romo in particular didn’t embarrass themselves but they’re nowhere near good enough.

Then a lot of guys were gonna work on their games and play the Senior Tour. How’d that work out? John Brodie had some success a million years ago. Rick Rhoden may have qualified for an event or 3. But people for the most part have absolutely no idea how good these pros are and how far away “good” or even scratch golfers are away from that level. So far they’d likely never ever get there no matter how much work they put in.

Let's not get carried away. It's not as if JR Smith is trying to qualify for the PGA tour.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Let's not get carried away. It's not as if JR Smith is trying to qualify for the PGA tour.

Understood. This topic like many went a little sideways. The comments about athletes trying to play at that level had zero to do with JR Smith.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Let's not get carried away. It's not as if JR Smith is trying to qualify for the PGA tour .

Agreed , it’s like a guy whose a star in the ACC trying to play in the NBA . Very few are good enough no matter how well they played in college .

They’re levels in every sport and 5 handicap would’ve trouble winning a club championship let alone playing college golf .

Club championships are so far down the peeking order in golf achievements unless your 10 or 12 yrs old .

 

[Fsgolfdr]

The golf channel did a nice segment on JR , wish him all the luck in him achieving his long term goals of helping disadvantaged kids .

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

He qualified and competes today

 

[indoorgolf]

He qualified and competes today

I give him all the credit in the world for exposing himself to the world of competitive golf tournaments. It’s a totally different sport than just playing golf with your friends and being a legit pro athlete he is willing to expose himself to the failures of competition in golf tournaments. I play competitive golf tournaments and there are a lot of disappointing moments even for the most successful players. I tip of the hat to him.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I give him all the credit in the world for exposing himself to the world of competitive golf tournaments. It’s a totally different sport than just playing golf with your friends and being a legit pro athlete he is willing to expose himself to the failures of competition in golf tournaments. I play competitive golf tournaments and there are a lot of disappointing moments even for the most successful players. I tip of the hat to him.

I read an article where his coach made it seem like competitive golf was so much different than non-competitive golf. I don't understand how. Please explain. Golf is an individual sport like bowling. Yea, you might be on a team but the team means nothing when you make your drive or try to sink a put. Its you vs yourself vs the course, not other players.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I read an article where his coach made it seem like competitive golf was so much different than non-competitive golf. I don't understand how. Please explain. Golf is an individual sport like bowling. Yea, you might be on a team but the team means nothing when you make your drive or try to sink a put. Its you vs yourself vs the course, not other players.

Because when it’s competition it means something and lots of people respond to that differently. Any golfer who plays competitively at any level will tell you the same. The best of the best on the PGA tour get nervy. Some control it better than others.

And while golf is an individual sport college golf is team golf so the team NEVER means nothing. There are individual winners for sure but at the same time you are playing for your teammates.

And I know because you’re such a know it all and don’t listen to anyone else you’re gonna say it’s BS. So I’ll spare you. It’s for others who are more open minded if they’re interested.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Because when it’s competition it means something and lots of people respond to that differently. Any golfer who plays competitively at any level will tell you the same. The best of the best on the PGA tour get nervy. Some control it better than others.

And while golf is an individual sport college golf is team golf so the team NEVER means nothing. There are individual winners for sure but at the same time you are playing for your teammates.

And I know because you’re such a know it all and don’t listen to anyone else you’re gonna say it’s BS. So I’ll spare you. It’s for others who are more open minded if they’re interested.

Its called team golf and there's team bowling but honestly what does it matter what your teammates shoot or what your opponents shoot? You can't play defense. You can't give them an assist? Its just you.

Are you saying its just psychological? Honest question as I dont understand what the difference is.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Its called team golf and there's team bowling but honestly what does it matter what your teammates shoot or what your opponents shoot? You can't play defense. You can't give them an assist? Its just you.

Are you saying its just psychological? Honest question as I dont understand what the difference is.

There is team golf. Teams win tournaments and teams win an NCAA tourney. It’s that simple. So it absolutely matters. Most tournaments that I’m aware of you have 5 players out there but 4 scores count towards team score. Maybe you’re not aware but teams matter. And the pro men have the Ryder Cup which was just played. When asked to a man they all say it’s the most nervous they’ve ever felt. Even guys who’ve won majors.

And yea it is psychological. I’m not being a wiseass but this is a time it’s worth asking if you ever played sports. Only because if you did, and you actually played you should know the feeling. Using even basketball - I know it’s not like golf but let’s say you’re shooting around at the park. Then a pickup game starts. Who cares. But if you’re good enough to play organized basketball and you’re on the free throw line at the end of the game you might crap your pants.

I play a lot of golf. Never feel nerves. But I’ve played in match play tourneys with buddies and it’s different. I’ve gotten nervous. And it isn’t because of money or prizes. There’s nothing significant on the line. It’s the competition. And I’ve always been a competitor and want to win. And also not to suck while competing. There’s plenty of suck in golf even for good golfers. But the desire not to suck when the lights come on grows exponentially. If I go out this weekend and blow I’m annoyed but whatever. If I can’t play a lick and I’m playing against someone it’s an entirely different feeling.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

There is team golf. Teams win tournaments and teams win an NCAA tourney. It’s that simple. So it absolutely matters. Most tournaments that I’m aware of you have 5 players out there but 4 scores count towards team score. Maybe you’re not aware but teams matter. And the pro men have the Ryder Cup which was just played. When asked to a man they all say it’s the most nervous they’ve ever felt. Even guys who’ve won majors.

And yea it is psychological. I’m not being a wiseass but this is a time it’s worth asking if you ever played sports. Only because if you did, and you actually played you should know the feeling. Using even basketball - I know it’s not like golf but let’s say you’re shooting around at the park. Then a pickup game starts. Who cares. But if you’re good enough to play organized basketball and you’re on the free throw line at the end of the game you might crap your pants.

I play a lot of golf. Never feel nerves. But I’ve played in match play tourneys with buddies and it’s different. I’ve gotten nervous. And it isn’t because of money or prizes. There’s nothing significant on the line. It’s the competition. And I’ve always been a competitor and want to win. And also not to suck while competing. There’s plenty of suck in golf even for good golfers. But the desire not to suck when the lights come on grows exponentially. If I go out this weekend and blow I’m annoyed but whatever. If I can’t play a lick and I’m playing against someone it’s an entirely different feeling.

I get that a player might get more nervous in team golf but the same player would get equally as nervous in a competitive singles event. Using your basketball analogy, of course one wouldn't be nervous in a pickup game but when you put him in a real game, you also significantly increased the skill level and the effort level of players trying to defend him. In any type of golf, there is no defense. So this big difference that people are talking about is 100% psychological. And to me, that isn't like jumping up a level going from a pickup game to a college basketball game

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I get that a player might get more nervous in team golf but the same player would get equally as nervous in a competitive singles event. Using your basketball analogy, of course one wouldn't be nervous in a pickup game but when you put him in a real game, you also significantly increased the skill level and the effort level of players trying to defend him. In any type of golf, there is no defense. So this big difference that people are talking about is 100% psychological. And to me, that isn't like jumping up a level going from a pickup game to a college basketball game

Like I said you’re a know it all. So why bother asking. Your mind is made up and it won’t matter what anyone says. If Tiger Woods chimed in you’d tell him he didn’t know what he was talking about.

Of course there are levels. But the bottom line is playing with your buddies or solo then playing competitive college golf isn’t nearly the same. It’s not even close. Believe it or don’t.

and one other thing is the courses will be set up to be much tougher when you play college competition.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Like I said you’re a know it all. So why bother asking. Your mind is made up and it won’t matter what anyone says. If Tiger Woods chimed in you’d tell him he didn’t know what he was talking about.

Of course there are levels. But the bottom line is playing with your buddies or solo then playing competitive college golf isn’t nearly the same. It’s not even close. Believe it or don’t.

and one other thing is the courses will be set up to be much tougher when you play college competition.

I was asking because I thought there was more to it than just the mind.

 

[BPKY]

I understand your point about the pressure being only psychological. Fair enough. But also take into consideration that the rules are strictly enforced. I suck at golf and have only played against friends for cash and in golf leagues. What I've noticed is that even "good" golfers fluff the ball in the fairway, ground their club head by accident, etc. Their score will magically inflate by 4 strokes when they play competitively by the rules.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

If you’ve never felt nervous in a golf tournament you’ve never played in anything that means a lot to you or you’ve never been in contention to win one !

Playing competitively means no breakfast balls , no gimmies, playing the ball down , none of I can’t take more than a double , playing courses set up more difficult than normal play and being unfamiliar with the course .All these factors add many shots to your score .

I‘ve played in games where a bad day could cost you upwards of a thousand dollars and never felt the nerves like trying to win the Pa State Am or Senior Am or important amateur events . Like I said if you’ve never felt the nerves you’ve never been there .

What JR will learn is that he’s not as good as he thought he was , but you have to admire him trying to play college golf being in the spotlight he’s in . If he works hard and sticks it out he will emerge a better player .

Team golf has the unique pressure that individual golf doesn’t have and that’s the pressure of letting your teammates down .

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I was asking because I thought there was more to it than just the mind.

Remember when how I was trying to tell you golf rounds were way up and you still didn’t believe me even though I posted links? And said I knew an owner who had record business the last cpl years?

Here’s another.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Remember when how I was trying to tell you golf rounds were way up and you still didn’t believe me even though I posted links? And said I knew an owner who had record business the last cpl years?

Here’s another.

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Courses are closing all over the place so it would make sense that the ones that survived would do really well.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Courses are closing all over the place so it would make sense that the ones that survived would do really well.

You really talk out your ass , don’t you ?

When you double and triple down on areas you know nothing about it makes anything you might have a valid point on questionable.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You really talk out your ass , don’t you ?

When you double and triple down on areas you know nothing about it makes anything you might have a valid point on questionable.

Golf courses are closing at record rates. Have you seen that?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Golf courses are closing at record rates. Have you seen that?

That’s been discussed too.

And not too many public courses around here have closed. Oak lake is the only one I can think of so that has nothing to do with Moon or the guy I know. Zero. Stonecrest will be. The owner died and they got what I’m sure is a boatload. Gonna be a business park. He owned fox run and that’s for sale too. Both were up for sale before he passed. He was ill and the family didn’t want to continue with them. Courses take a lot of work so sometimes it makes more financial/business sense to sell. Which is what happened in Myrtle Beach.

You hate golf - watching and playing - cool. But your hatred is making you stupid. The fact remains that playing golf in the last 2 years has exploded in popularity.

And if you’re just trolling and I’m too stupid to realize it then I guess the joke’s on me. But if you’re serious this is just yet another example of you being a know it all and having previously conceived notions that can’t budge you even when you’re dead wrong.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

You really talk out your ass , don’t you ?

When you double and triple down on areas you know nothing about it makes anything you might have a valid point on questionable.

Some of it is supply chain issues but even when that’s not a factor it’s taking weeks to get a new set of clubs they’re so backed up. I’ve been looking for a bag and found something I liked. I hesitated and it’s gone and I couldn’t even find it online.

It’s a big time suck and it’s certainly not cheap so I don’t expect it to last forever but it’s been insane. Courses I used to get cheap non prime time last minute greens fees dont discount anything on the weekends. And they’re fully booked save for a random slot for 1 or 2.

But let him keep babbling. Or maybe as I said trolling.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Simple google search.

“Last year’s surge in rounds of golf played in the United States hasn’t ended, with total rounds in January 2021 up 21.4 percent over the same period of 2020, according to industry reports.

Despite losing several months’ worth of rounds in many states as COVID-19 precautions led to courses being temporarily shuttered, 2020 saw an increase of 13.9 percent in total rounds played over 2019, Golf Datatech and the National Golf Foundation have reported.”

Golf's surge continues with rounds played increasing again in January, per reports

Last year’s surge in rounds of golf played in the United States hasn’t ended, with total rounds in January 2021 up 21.4 percent over the same period of 2020, according to industry reports. Despite …

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And I expect the same dumb response as before.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

And not too many public courses around here have closed.

Valley Green out past Pitt-Greensburg closed at the end of 2019.

BTW, on the original topic, did anyone see that Smith got stung by a bunch of hornets while playing for NC A&T earlier this week. Bet that never happened to him on the basketball court!

He shot 82, 78, 79 in the three rounds of the tournament they were playing in.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Valley Green out past Pitt-Greensburg closed at the end of 2019.

BTW, on the original topic, did anyone see that Smith got stung by a bunch of hornets while playing for NC A&T earlier this week. Bet that never happened to him on the basketball court!

He shot 82, 78, 79 in the three rounds of the tournament they were playing in.

Yea I imagine there might be a few. That’s a course I’ve never even heard of. But that still isn’t why rounds are up (and I’m certainly not suggesting you were supporting that). Private courses are another matter. They’ve struggled. Some are gone and some are now public.

And yea I saw that about the bees or hornets or whatever it was. When I was younger I had no idea those bastards made their homes in the ground. Thankfully I didn’t find out the hard way but I got chased. They particularly seem to like bunkers. I think he got nailed looking for a ball in the woods. Enough that he got some brief medical treatment.

Also saw that he rolled up to the tourney in his Bentley. Which I’m sure made those kids wanna kick his ass even more. He’ll likely have to shoot better scores than that to count, but first one out of the gate that isn’t terrible.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Valley Green out past Pitt-Greensburg closed at the end of 2019.

BTW, on the original topic, did anyone see that Smith got stung by a bunch of hornets while playing for NC A&T earlier this week. Bet that never happened to him on the basketball court!

He shot 82, 78, 79 in the three rounds of the tournament they were playing in.

Golf has undergone a resurgence since Covid . Public courses are crowded and private clubs that were struggling are now able to charge large initiation fees . A club I belonged to in Fl went from a 10k initiation fee to 40k and a friend of mine in the Boston area says that all the private courses have waiting lists .

Tournament golf is a different animal than teeing it up with your buds .

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Golf has undergone a resurgence since Covid . Public courses are crowded and private clubs that were struggling are now able to charge large initiation fees . A club I belonged to in Fl went from a 10k initiation fee to 40k and a friend of mine in the Boston area says that all the private courses have waiting lists .

Tournament golf is a different animal than teeing it up with your buds .

Interesting. I don’t believe that’s the case in the Pittsburgh area with private clubs but it’s not shocking to hear it is happening other places. But I’m not too tied into that scene so I could be wrong.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Some of it is supply chain issues but even when that’s not a factor it’s taking weeks to get a new set of clubs they’re so backed up. I’ve been looking for a bag and found something I liked. I hesitated and it’s gone and I couldn’t even find it online.

It’s a big time suck and it’s certainly not cheap so I don’t expect it to last forever but it’s been insane. Courses I used to get cheap non prime time last minute greens fees dont discount anything on the weekends. And they’re fully booked save for a random slot for 1 or 2.

But let him keep babbling. Or maybe as I said trolling.

If you need clubs just I got a set of Mizuno irons custom made while only waiting three weeks .