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Mr. Monaca

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I've been a Pitt fan for most of my life - became a fan when I was 11 years old and Johnny Majors came to town in 1973. I graduated from Pitt in 1984 and saw some of the best football you could ever want to see, especially on defense.

Anyway - with such a dearth of discussion on the boards and it being so close to the the season opener, I was wondering if any of you have a "gut instinct" (nothing technical whatsoever) about this upcoming season?

Now - I really like football and understand the game very well (played for a very successful high school program) but I find that I'm usually wrong about my expectations for Pitt just about every year. I'm usually over-hyped about the potential each season holds for our Panthers and I'm sure it's because I follow them so closely, and root for them so intensely. I think this usually leads me to really believe that we have more talent than we actually wind up having.

Having said that, my gut instincts tell me that we're in for a very difficult season in 2017, with quarterback being the biggest question mark, followed by the defensive backs and linebackers (IMO). My gut tells me 6 wins.

Therefore - since my gut instincts about Pitt football are usually wrong, I'm thinking we'll actually have a 9 to 10 win season. Here's hoping my gut is wrong, again! H2P
 
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Mr. Monaca said:
I've been a Pitt fan for most of my life - became a fan when I was 11 years old and Johnny Majors came to town in 1973. I graduated from Pitt in 1984 and saw some of the best football you could ever want to see, especially on defense.

Anyway - with such a dearth of discussion on the boards and it being so close to the the season opener, I was wondering if any of you have a "gut instinct" (nothing technical whatsoever) about this upcoming season?

Now - I really like football and understand the game very well (played for a very successful high school program) but I find that I'm usually wrong about my expectations for Pitt just about every year. I'm usually over-hyped about the potential each season holds for our Panthers and I'm sure it's because I follow them so closely, and root for them so intensely. I think this usually leads me to really believe that we have more talent than we actually wind up having.

Having said that, my gut instincts tell me that we're in for a very difficult season in 2017, with quarterback being the biggest question mark, followed by the defensive backs and linebackers (IMO). My gut tells me 6 wins.

Therefore - since my gut instincts about Pitt football are usually wrong, I'm thinking we'll actually have a 9 to 10 win season. Here's hoping my gut is wrong, again! H2P
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Unfortunately, I am thinking more 6-6 or 7-5. Just alot of holes, tough schedule and some recent unforeseen player absences. I usually think around 9 wins, maybe it is good for once I am more pessimistic than optimistic.
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Unfortunately, I am thinking more 6-6 or 7-5. Just alot of holes, tough schedule and some recent unforeseen player absences. I usually think around 9 wins, maybe it is good for once I am more pessimistic than optimistic.
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From the Cheap Seats; myself, haven't had many 9 win thoughts since Jackie left. That said, my opinion for this year is based on the September results. Three wins in September and there is a good chance for 8-4. JMHO.

H2P
 
IMO..3 wins in September should result in at least 8 wins.


Pitt69 said:
From the Cheap Seats; myself, haven't had many 9 win thoughts since Jackie left. That said, my opinion for this year is based on the September results. Three wins in September and there is a good chance for 8-4. JMHO.

H2P
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I think we should have been in line for 9 wins with an expectation of at least 8 and chance at 10. Now, I would be surprised if we get to 8. That doesn't get HCPN off the hook because the buck stops at him, but I think we are going to struggle. I think every level of the defense is going to struggle and I have no clue what we will get at QB. The OL should be ok, but not as good as last year.
 
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I am probably nuts; but for some reason I believe we have the most talented overall roster we have had since the Majors I - Sherrill era. However, it is short on experience, the schedule is difficult, and some of the more talented guys are not available for the first few games. If we didn't have theses obstacles I would be thinking 10-3. I don't know how much the inexperience, suspensions, and schedule will reduce that outcome. So, I guess 6-7 wins is probably a reasonable guess.

Whatever the ultimate outcome, I believe we will be a lot better defensively than most expect. I believe we may reduce our points/game allowed into the mid-upper 20s--maybe around 24-27 points/game. Offensively, I am pretty convinced we have to drop off from a lot from 42 points/game; but, I think we still average in the low 30's in per game scoring--guessing something like 30-33 points/game. These kinds of results would give us an average scoring margin of between 3 and 9 points/game. The closer to 3 it is the higher the probability of only 6-7 wins; the closer to 9 it would be the higher the likelihood of 9-10 wins. If we lose both the OK St and PSU games I think we are looking at 6-7 wins; split them then 7-8 wins; win both then 9-10 wins is possible.
 
9 wins before the injuries and disciple; now I'll go with 8. This team is more talented than any of Chryst's teams but they are very young.

Mr. Monaca said:
I've been a Pitt fan for most of my life - became a fan when I was 11 years old and Johnny Majors came to town in 1973. I graduated from Pitt in 1984 and saw some of the best football you could ever want to see, especially on defense.

Anyway - with such a dearth of discussion on the boards and it being so close to the the season opener, I was wondering if any of you have a "gut instinct" (nothing technical whatsoever) about this upcoming season?

Now - I really like football and understand the game very well (played for a very successful high school program) but I find that I'm usually wrong about my expectations for Pitt just about every year. I'm usually over-hyped about the potential each season holds for our Panthers and I'm sure it's because I follow them so closely, and root for them so intensely. I think this usually leads me to really believe that we have more talent than we actually wind up having.

Having said that, my gut instincts tell me that we're in for a very difficult season in 2017, with quarterback being the biggest question mark, followed by the defensive backs and linebackers (IMO). My gut tells me 6 wins.

Therefore - since my gut instincts about Pitt football are usually wrong, I'm thinking we'll actually have a 9 to 10 win season. Here's hoping my gut is wrong, again! H2P
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Mr. Monaca said:
I've been a Pitt fan for most of my life - became a fan when I was 11 years old and Johnny Majors came to town in 1973. I graduated from Pitt in 1984 and saw some of the best football you could ever want to see, especially on defense.

Anyway - with such a dearth of discussion on the boards and it being so close to the the season opener, I was wondering if any of you have a "gut instinct" (nothing technical whatsoever) about this upcoming season?

Now - I really like football and understand the game very well (played for a very successful high school program) but I find that I'm usually wrong about my expectations for Pitt just about every year. I'm usually over-hyped about the potential each season holds for our Panthers and I'm sure it's because I follow them so closely, and root for them so intensely. I think this usually leads me to really believe that we have more talent than we actually wind up having.

Having said that, my gut instincts tell me that we're in for a very difficult season in 2017, with quarterback being the biggest question mark, followed by the defensive backs and linebackers (IMO). My gut tells me 6 wins.

Therefore - since my gut instincts about Pitt football are usually wrong, I'm thinking we'll actually have a 9 to 10 win season. Here's hoping my gut is wrong, again! H2P
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Yes....my gut tells me will kick ass and take names and win 10 games.
That's my gut.
 
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My gut will get back to you when I find out if Paris Ford will be here and ready to go. We really need some good news and we need Paris in there, he is a difference maker! Actually, I will say we win 8 or 9 if he is here and starts in our secondary. My gut has spoken!
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Unfortunately, I am thinking more 6-6 or 7-5. Just alot of holes, tough schedule and some recent unforeseen player absences. I usually think around 9 wins, maybe it is good for once I am more pessimistic than optimistic.
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What was your prediction last year? Wasn't 6-6 or 5-7?
 
Mr. Monaca said:
I've been a Pitt fan for most of my life - became a fan when I was 11 years old and Johnny Majors came to town in 1973. I graduated from Pitt in 1984 and saw some of the best football you could ever want to see, especially on defense.

Anyway - with such a dearth of discussion on the boards and it being so close to the the season opener, I was wondering if any of you have a "gut instinct" (nothing technical whatsoever) about this upcoming season?

Now - I really like football and understand the game very well (played for a very successful high school program) but I find that I'm usually wrong about my expectations for Pitt just about every year. I'm usually over-hyped about the potential each season holds for our Panthers and I'm sure it's because I follow them so closely, and root for them so intensely. I think this usually leads me to really believe that we have more talent than we actually wind up having.

Having said that, my gut instincts tell me that we're in for a very difficult season in 2017, with quarterback being the biggest question mark, followed by the defensive backs and linebackers (IMO). My gut tells me 6 wins.

Therefore - since my gut instincts about Pitt football are usually wrong, I'm thinking we'll actually have a 9 to 10 win season. Here's hoping my gut is wrong, again! H2P
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New transfer QB and 3rd new OC in 3 years-that has to be some kind of record for a P5 program. 9 new starters on D. Expect major struggles, hope for 6-7 wins.

Gut feeling is Browne starts the season but doesn't finish it. Offensive stats will be way down. The D will take major lumps.

Other than that I expect us to contend for a NC this year.
 
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5-7 due to a possibly disastrous September caused by the questionable new OC (it's Pitt so you have to assume he's a downgrade unless shown otherwise); umpteen critical new players who will struggle out the gate; and the key losses we've already had due to injury and administration meddling. Even the gimmee games aren't gonna be.

Losses: 1 ugly one of either Rice or YSU; PSU; OSU; GT; UNC; VT; Miami.

The good news is that just two of the above games swinging positive, which is certainly possible, will make it seem like a good season given everything mentioned above. Three of them in the W column, a fantastic one. I think it would be folly and possibly psychotic to even dream of better than that though.
 
7-5 and then a bowl win to end 8-5 three years in a row under HCPN.

I think the offense will be pretty good but have big questions about the defense again.
 
7-5 for me. Initially thought 8-4, but too many weaknesses due to injuries and suspensions make me drop it.
 
My gut says the same record or 1 more loss, and then the following two years we get to the 9-10 win mark.
 
Therefore - since my gut instincts about Pitt football are usually wrong, I'm thinking we'll actually have a 9 to 10 win season. Here's hoping my gut is wrong, again! H2P[/QUOTE]

I thought this season could be a struggle before the injuries/suspensions etc etc. We are in a in between year with PN guys not all ready to go(experience) and PC's best gone. I had hoped they would find a way to win 8 games again this year but I am not as optimistic after what has happened the last few weeks.

I see the D improving slightly but not enough to make up for a offense that will likely be solid but nothing like last year. The OOC scheduling is going to hurt as without the suspended players and injuries we probably have very little chance of beating PSU or OSU. So likely 2-2 OOC. Only good thing is I don't see VT or NC being as good as last year, I think they both will take a pretty good hit at QB and WR. Thats two losses from last year which could swing the other way this year.
I think we start off bad maybe 2-3 then rebound with 4 or 5 wins in the last 7.
 
Young inexperienced team but there is talent there. Look for a 2-2 September with the team getting
better as the year goes on. My gut tells me another 8-4 season.
 
88Pitt88 said:
My gut will get back to you when I find out if Paris Ford will be here and ready to go. We really need some good news and we need Paris in there, he is a difference maker! Actually, I will say we win 8 or 9 if he is here and starts in our secondary. My gut has spoken!
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Unfortunately we really need him to be ready on day 1, but highly doubt Duzz will start him after missing all or almost all of training camp (if eligible).

By heart says 9-3 but my head says 7-5. My heart is usually wrong...
 
Probably wins:
Youngstown St. - W
Rice - W
Syracuse - W
Duke - W
Virginia - W

Better than 60% we win these games...

N. Carolina - W (We finally get over the hump)
Georgia Tech - W

How good our season will be determined by winning one or two of these games:

Penn State
Oklahoma St
NC State
Virginia Tech
Miami (FL)

With youth, injuries, suspensions, factored in, I predict: 7-5, Plus a bowl win, 8-5
 
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Frank Beamer years 1-6
2-9, 3-8, 6-4-1,6-5,5-6, year six (drum-roll please)...... 2-8-1
Mike Gundy year, 3, 6-6, + bowl win.
If you have the right Coach at the right place support him and be patient.
 
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Parkview57 said:
Frank Beamer years 1-6
2-9, 3-8, 6-4-1,6-5,5-6, year six (drum-roll please)...... 2-8-1
Mike Gundy year, 3, 6-6, + bowl win.
If you have the right Coach at the right place support him and be patient.
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Mike Gundy? Decent example. Although he had to expel 11 players and went 4-7, 7-6, 7-6, whereas Narduzzi would be 8-5, 8-5, 6-6 (or 6-7 or 7-6 after a bowl). Little different on the trajectory there.

Frank Beamer? Poor example. He took over a VT program, which was under NCAA sanctions and scholarship reduction penalties. And, of course, this was an entirely different time in college football. Hell, Beamer's salary was $80k when he took over. The expectations are just vastly different now.
 
My gut tells me were going to end up with 6-7 regular season wins. It wouldn't surprise me if we start 1-4. Narduzzi needs to do a better job at finding kids that are ready to play sooner. He needs to find his own JC, DJ, Boyd, Biz and Holtz type of players. Talent shows up early and plays early.
 
Most successful head coaches have something to hang their hat on - still waiting to see what that is for HCPN.
 
88Pitt88 said:
My gut will get back to you when I find out if Paris Ford will be here and ready to go. We really need some good news and we need Paris in there, he is a difference maker! Actually, I will say we win 8 or 9 if he is here and starts in our secondary. My gut has spoken!
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It hard enough for a true freshmen that start let alone start after missing most of camp. They got about 2 weeks of camp left. Then it into game prep. With the acclimation period he would have about half a dozen practices to be ready. Once game prep starts there not much time to be getting him up to speed. I bet it would be mid season at best he ready to play anything outside of special teams.
 
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Frank Beamer? Poor example
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VT had 2 years of scholarship limited to 85 or something, and while I concede that there is a vast difference in circumstances, my point that after six seasons, with the last being 2-9, someone had the insight to see that the program was on the right track. I am hoping that the fans, supporters, and administrators have that same insight in the event that Pitt has a year or two in which "expectations" are not met. Certainly, Pitt's own recent history has provided everyone with enough experience to comprehend that just because "expectations have changed" is a really poor reason to make a coaching change.
 
vegasgreed said:
My gut tells me were going to end up with 6-7 regular season wins. It wouldn't surprise me if we start 1-4. Narduzzi needs to do a better job at finding kids that are ready to play sooner. He needs to find his own JC, DJ, Boyd, Biz and Holtz type of players. Talent shows up early and plays early.
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So, you believe we lose to either Youngstown or Rice? That is what it would take to start 1-4. I doubt that--I would say starting 2-3 is a worst case scenario.
 
No. That was my bad. Should have said 1-3. We should beat both YSU and Rice.

I think it could shake out this way.

YSU....Win
PSU....loss
OSU...loss
GT.....loss


DC_Area_Panther said:
So, you believe we lose to either Youngstown or Rice? That is what it would take to start 1-4. I doubt that--I would say starting 2-3 is a worst case scenario.
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