Kade Bell....

[SteelCityChamps]

UCF hired their QB coach today. Any other places rumored for Bell?

 

[PittPharm2002]

And neither was that coach to whom you referred.

Whipple has been a head coach, been an OC at multiple P5 programs , and helped Big Ben become a superbowl winning qb with the Steelers

Bell is a young guy - but he’s been at d2 school who plays at a HS stadium , and worked for his dad in the southern conference before getting hired here

It’s silly to compare their coaching resumes

 

[Parkview57]

UCF hired their QB coach today. Any other places rumored for Bell?

That's it? The rumor was that he was leaving Pitt to become the QB coach at UCF?

 

[NCPitt]

Whipple has been a head coach, been an OC at multiple P5 programs , and helped Big Ben become a superbowl winning qb with the Steelers

Bell is a young guy - but he’s been at d2 school who plays at a HS stadium , and worked for his dad in the southern conference before getting hired here

It’s silly to compare their coaching resumes

I didn't.

 

[Gep Dawg]

I see a lot of promise with Eli Holstein and Kade Bell. They started the season 7-0 before injuries piled up and the wheels fell off! I think out top line talent is good. The big problem is depth. When key players got hurt we had huge drop off especially at the OL, WR and RB. That's where the focus needs to be this upcoming season if we want to finish better than 7-5

 

[PittPharm2002]

I see a lot of promise with Eli Holstein and Kade Bell. They started the season 7-0 before injuries piled up and the wheels fell off! I think out top line talent is good. The big problem is depth. When key players got hurt we had huge drop off especially at the OL, WR and RB. That's where the focus needs to be this upcoming season if we want to finish better than 7-5

Eli’s play fell off a cliff
And it’s hard to simply say an OL injury via why

 

[pittbb80]

The better teams Pitt played were able to get significant pressure rushing four and dropping seven. When you don’t have great Wr. That’s tough for any Qb to find open. Guys and OCs to scheme against Combine that with zero running game and that’s essentially why the offense wasn’t as effective.

Emphasis this offseason has to be to make the OL at least decent. Look no further than the Steelers to see what improved ol play can do for the offense.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

I see a lot of promise with Eli Holstein and Kade Bell. They started the season 7-0 before injuries piled up and the wheels fell off! I think out top line talent is good. The big problem is depth. When key players got hurt we had huge drop off especially at the OL, WR and RB. That's where the focus needs to be this upcoming season if we want to finish better than 7-5

Not sure we have the money to buy depth. Allen Greene needs to prove he was worth firing Heather for, especially since Pat is likely here for a while still.

 

[Pitt5593]

Would anyone shed a tear if he left? He always seemed like a fish out of water up here anyway.

Lose Bell you probably lose Holstein.

 

[NCanton Panther]

Not sure we have the money to buy depth. Allen Greene needs to prove he was worth firing Heather for, especially since Pat is likely here for a while still.

Isn’t it more likely that we don’t have the money to buy top-level, sure-fire starting caliber players so we’re likely resigned to buying players viewed as either competing for a starting job, playing a decent amount of minutes as a rotational player or providing depth.

 

[Tvax1]

it's got to be tougher trying to vet transfers that are coming from high level programs and not seen the field much as opposed to the lower level program where the stud kid is looking to move up for exposure to prove he can compete at the highest level to have that NFL shot

I guess there's some film but wonder about the kid that's behind a stud on the 2 deep and didn't get enough chances so enters the portal

do ratings outfits exist that continue to update and aggregate? how many Pitt staffers are involved with this critical groundwork? I guess mostly reallocation of time spent with staff otherwise searching out HS talent

 

[ebonylover40]

Everything you’re saying may or may not be true, sounds like a lot of speculation. But even if so, why/how does any of it preclude calling or changing to some shorter pass routes.

Did it ever occur to you, that there shorter routes, but the QB did not take them at the time? Do you actually think a OC only have deep options and not shorter ones? Every passing play with multiple WRs and TEs has short routes, its up to the QB to take them.

 

[ebonylover40]

Correct. Many other instances.

No they aren't, how about Pitt getting directly under center on 3rd/4th and inches instead of snapping the ball 6 yards deep only to lose two yards, over and over again. Trying to go up tempo on 3rd and short and getting stuffed repeatedly, awesome idea when it hasn't worked in three games....how about numerous pre-snap shifts with the defense simply ignoring the movement, meanwhile causing delay of game ,illegal procedure penalties...etc.

Well ask every OC who run these type of offenses. None of them do it. Do you not watch any other games? I guess Bell is the only that does it. Why do people always post a single situation to prove a point? So you whole basis is that he doesnt have his QB under center on short yardage?

 

[PittPharm2002]

Did it ever occur to you, that there shorter routes, but the QB did not take them at the time? Do you actually think a OC only have deep options and not shorter ones? Every passing play with multiple WRs and TEs has short routes, its up to the QB to take them.

He wasn’t taking them
Hence his play fell off a cliff

 

[NCPitt]

He wasn’t taking them
Hence his play fell off a cliff

More like "pushed" off a cliff by the defenses.

 

[NCanton Panther]

Did it ever occur to you, that there shorter routes, but the QB did not take them at the time? Do you actually think a OC only have deep options and not shorter ones? Every passing play with multiple WRs and TEs has short routes, its up to the QB to take them.

I wouldn’t have made the comment if I hadn’t seen a number of plays where their were no receivers running short routes, literally every receiver running a route downfield with their back still to the QB while he is in the process of getting sacked or running to avoid one. The only eligible receiver not doing so was a RB staying in to block and not releasing to give the QB a shorter option.

Granted, for games you’re watching via broadcast or not in person at the stadium, you might not get a full view of the whole field or all receivers but there have been multiple times where there was a good replay view to pick it up.

 

[Parkview57]

So you whole basis is that he doesnt have his QB under center on short yardage?

No, I have made numerous long posts of his failure to adapt to win games in several areas, I have exhausted the subject, winning is the goal, not proving a system works. I am moving on.

I hope he has a great recruiting year and he can get Holstein to read defenses , etc. lots of work to do, considering the major collapse. But really there were only three poor games of which 2 were winnable , IMO, Virginia,Louisville and BC. SMU/Clemson just tip your cap in those games.

 

[Conemaugh]

Thats because they could not run the fast scheme he is known for. They had to slow the whole scheme down, because Yarnell could not run it, and the revamped OL could not keep up with a speed offense.

People saying Bell never adjusted are wrong. He did adjust. He did according to what the players could do. Rewatch the games Yarnell started. He was literally calling and changing plays. That is why it seemed the plays were slow developing. And its also why the penalties started.

If Kade wants to stay, you have to give him the chance to implement his total offense. They have to get linemen the can actually move, and get off the ball quick, which is what they need to do. And during the offseason, get in way better shape.

Yes, and hopefully a second year with Kade will help eliminate the pre-snap penalties. The biggest problem with the offense during the second half of the year was pre-snap penalties. It made offensive rythm impossible and put a depleted offensive line in a tough spot almost every series.

 

[TD_6082]

Yes, and hopefully a second year with Kade will help eliminate the pre-snap penalties. The biggest problem with the offense during the second half of the year was pre-snap penalties. It made offensive rythm impossible and put a depleted offensive line in a tough spot almost every series.

Lack of continuity on the OL & QB contributed to a lot of those penalties, imo.