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Kenny Pickett is the best Pitt QB since...

I don't think differently about Larry. I think differently about Rutherford. Not sure we've had a QB since who could even get the ball into the same zip codes Larry was making some of those spectacular catches in. And Walt wasn't wrong about putting the ball where only Larry could get it. High point, back shoulder, hell Fitz and Rod practically invented the back shoulder route in college football. Who have we had since Rod that you'd trust to be that accurate?

Wilson was good and ahead of his time as a field stretching TE in college football. He was at times inconsistent with his hands. That ND game stands out because those were perfect throws and his 2 drops cost us that game.

It's interesting to me that there are a fair number of posters on this board who give Fitz literally all the credit for Rutherford's 3700 yards. 37 TDs and 157 rating in 2004, instead of crediting both players for those amazing numbers and that amazing season they had. I mean at any other program I can think of fans would be very happy to claim both players and credit both of them for that stellar year. I can only speculate as to why that might be.
FWIW, I think Rod was good but inconsistent. I am not so sure that Rod invented back shoulder plays as much he just was inaccurate and Fitzgerald made great adjustments.

When Rod was on, he was absolutely excellent. I think he generally tended to make very good decisions and he would stand in longer than most anyone else I can remember at Pitt except for maybe Tom Savage. He was very well coached and disciplined in his craft.

But, for as strong as that arm was, he was often scattered armed. He would break his wrist a decent deal when throwing and had a lot of ducks or would just go through phases where he was off for periods (longer than most QBs as everyone has these phases).

Larry made Rod look a lot better than he was. That is easily a fact. And, he played for a QB coach that could make guys look better than they were. That is also easily a fact. I think that is why Pitt fans are a lot more skeptical of Rod in terms of his numbers, because most everyone saw that in both ways. It is not that Rod was not good though, because he was.

I sense a race inference in your post; I do not think how Pitt fans feel about Rod had anything to do with race. I think most just think he benefitted from arguably the best college WR of all-time. And, a great offensive HC that pulled the strings.

Since Rod, I think Pickett is the best guy. He has physical talent, has learned to use it better and makes good decisions now. But, I have no problem if someone wants to say that at his best, Savage was better.

I think Rod was better than Peterman, Tino and Stull (and the other guys that came and went). If you want to go back to the full Harris era, I think he was the best guy besides Palko (better than Gonzalez, Turman and Priestley easily). I think Palko, Savage and Pickett were/are better than him. But, he could play, no doubt.
 
Peterman. Both were as good as the players around them. Not talented enough to overcome it, but they'd hit open guys and run if they had to because teams didn't scheme to stop them scrambling.

I'd put Palko and Rutherford above him. Savage had better tools but it never manifested. Statistically he's, generously, at the Stull/Sunseri/Voytik level so far in his career. Maybe his receivers break off enough runs off of his short passes to catapult him above them this year.

Pickett's vastly overrated because people like toughness and moxie, IMO.
This looks dumber by the day haha
 
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Pickett's playing the position the best it's ever been played at Pitt and I can remember back to Daniels in the early '70s.

The kid is amazing. Great throws and his legs keep drives alive and move the chains. Appreciate this because it's never been better at the QB position.

Marino was fun to watch but was a high-risk turnover machine. 79 tds 69 ints at Pitt.
 
Pickett's playing the position the best it's ever been played at Pitt and I can remember back to Daniels in the early '70s.

The kid is amazing. Great throws and his legs keep drives alive and move the chains. Appreciate this because it's never been better at the QB position.

Marino was fun to watch but was a high-risk turnover machine. 79 tds 69 ints at Pitt.
I absolutely agree with this. I matriculated fall of ‘71. Dan had an amazing arm, but threw a ton of picks.
 
Marino also played before the popularization of the single back offense, choice routes, attacking cover 3 with 4 verts, etc. He had an amazing offensive line but no knows what he could have done today with a spread, hurry up offense (no slight on Kenny of course.)
 

Let me qualify this a little…

I’m not saying KP will be a HOF pro or have the lasting impact that Danny has on this program.

But in terms of the level that the position is being played at the college level, KP is it. And sure different era, but DM also thew 23 INTs a year his last two years. It’s really not close as far as the level the position is being played.
 
MARINO! No question about it. He has grown leaps and bounds and yesterday solidified it for me. His pocket presence and IQ is crazy now…I use to get so mad at some of his decisions lol
 
Peterman. Both were as good as the players around them. Not talented enough to overcome it, but they'd hit open guys and run if they had to because teams didn't scheme to stop them scrambling.

I'd put Palko and Rutherford above him. Savage had better tools but it never manifested. Statistically he's, generously, at the Stull/Sunseri/Voytik level so far in his career. Maybe his receivers break off enough runs off of his short passes to catapult him above them this year.

Pickett's vastly overrated because people like toughness and moxie, IMO.

Rotfl.
 
I loved reading through this thread and seeing how opinions evolved over a three year span. This “Nitter’s” opinion is Pickett is definitely the best since Marino. Passing games have changed a lot in the last 40 years so I don’t think it’s fair to compare statistics. Honestly I’ve felt Pickett has been great the last three seasons. The drops and lack of a TE threat hurt him prior to this season.

Your team is having a great season. Hopefully it continues and Pitt wins the ACC. I’ll get out of your sandbox now (I honestly only started reading here for the Steelers and Penguins threads but this one caught my eye and I wanted to comment).
 
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I take it back . It is now obvious that Kenny is not very good. Not sure what I was thinking years ago.

Haha. I think the only question that remains now is this. #1 or #2?
 
Just a reminder. Pickett stinks.
Just a reminder, without an extra COVID season Picket's final year would have finished with him having the 67th best passer rating in college football and a 13-9 TD/INT ratio.

But good job taking that into account 2 years before it existed.
 
Just a reminder, without an extra COVID season Picket's final year would have finished with him having the 67th best passer rating in college football and a 13-9 TD/INT ratio.

But good job taking that into account 2 years before it existed.

I have mad skills.
 
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