Landing the Diaz Twins Changes Perspective
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I just care about the results, if they where winning 20 games/year and making tournaments more often than not, I couldn't care less about players or identities.
There’s a lot of if’s to the upcoming season .
If ….
the twins come in and provide some 3 pt shooting at their size it will open up some room for Hugley inside and make Burton far more effective .
Nike comes back and plays like he finished two seasons ago .
Cummings is a significant upgrade at pg
Jeffress finds a shot and adds muscle
Burton improves his 3 pt shooting
Hiinson is healthy and a factor
they find another Mo like surprise in the portal ( hopefully at guard )
I expect Hugley to keep improving
All these things are possible ( not all are likely ) , but I actually expect them to be better this upcoming season .
Cummings will be a better pg and that’s big for the team . I expect a fitter better Hugley , a stronger Jeffress and he can’t help but to be better offensively. Nike will be an upgrade over Horton , while not as good a shooter , Horton‘s limited availability and effectiveness won’t make him that hard to replace . With more offensive options Burton won’t be forced to make things happen making him a more overall effective player . If the twins aren’t forced to play inside their size and shooting abilities will make for some difficult matchups for the opposing defenses . The only area that they’ll be significantly weaker is in replacing Mo , especially his shot blocking .
So if all this happens will this make Pitt retain a coach they want to rid themselves of ? If they wanted Capel gone and they were a serious program they’d have found a way to get it done this yr . If they fire him after a decent season ( 8+ ACC wins ) it will just be another red flag for any incoming coach . I have lost faith in their ability to find and lure a successful HC to take over their bb program . I know if I was one and Pitt approached me about the job I respectfully decline. ( quickly unless I needed leverage for a new contract .)
My solution is that it’s far cheaper now to legally buy the players and that‘s the avenue I’d take if I was them . Great coaches have great players .
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Yes, for sure. But if you are seeing massive roster turnover and winning 20+ games a year at the major conference level, it most likely means you are a program like Kentucky or Duke and having a lot of one and dones going to the NBA.
Not with the transfer portal, if you can use NIL to BUY 3-4 good P5 starters each year, you can keep making tournaments.
Capel isn't a good coach that's the problem. Why buy him players if he can't coach? I agree they should of just ended the relationship already. This is just a year of going through the motions. Capel will be gone barring a miracle.
It depends on your definition of a "miracle". To me, it means a 24+ win season and a high seed in the NCAAT. That MIGHT save his job for another year....maybe.
Fortunately for Pitt fans, the people writing the checks expect more.
And the people who deposit the checks, other than the ones who have quit and are only in it to collect the checks, will think that way too.
Then were have they been for the last 7 yrs ?
ps …all 1500 of them you mean !
Yeah, good point. The only real requirement for success is for the people writing the checks to want it. If they want success then success is guaranteed.
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Do you think it will be easy to get NIL $$$ from boosters for THIS coach?? Pitt is no longer a hoops school, and that might be a permanent status. All the attention is now in Duzzville.
If they can’t raise a couple of 100k then there’s no hope for the program .
I understand no one wanting to come up with the buyout money , but players are pocket change compared to that . (I’m excluding any crazy amounts paid to a few guys , I don’t believe that’s norm .
The "good news" is that we will be the first buyers on the lot. While we may not get the Cadillac, we shouldn't get stuck with a Pinto. Obviously this portends bad things for next season, but most of us have already accepted that.
Lots of "if's" but one thing is certain: Capel is the head coach and that's not good news.
You are not correct.
Of course it is-
Being eligible for post season is a big jump forward
I know, no one wants to tell the brutal truth about why Capel is even still here. There's a lot (probably most) that isn't being told about why he's still hanging around. I know I surely can't figure it out if common sense is what's being used, based purely on performance and results. He shouldn't be here. This has frustrated me so much for the past 2 years at least with a once proud Pitt basketball program. I'm beyond frustrated now. I'm trying to look at it as objectively and realistically as I can, even if it's not politically correct to some.
So is it that Pitt can't afford to buy him out yet? Is it the social and political correctness issues? Maybe a combination of both? You seem to have some knowledge about the inner workings at Pitt. Sorry DT, but I'm not seeing the logic as to why he's still here if we're looking at only results and performance. And we're losing fan support and money every year with empty seats and loss of contributions.
Don't think we'll ever know everything because these are touchy subjects where people lie, hold truths, and are just vague in general because multiple factors are being weighed
That's exactly what I'm thinking. It's really hard to believe anything you read or hear on this subject.
The decision is financial only.
DT, you know things are never that cut and dried and single-factored. But I also know we'll never know the whole story.
Neither would I. I've lived too long and have seen too many things and I know this isn't something where we'll ever know the whole story, especially now.
Or maybe, hold on, I know this is going to blow your mind, but maybe, just maybe, they have determined that it is not worth $15 million (or whatever the exact number happens to be) to fire him right now, and that financially the wisest decision is to hold on for another year.
Nah, you're right, it can't be that. It's got to be some sort of woke conspiracy.
You woke sheep just don't know how to process reality, do you? I'm not talking about any conspiracy like you wokists always do. You probably think keeping this loser for another year won't mean that we'll be losing millions in revenue from empty seats and erosion of fan contributions. $15MM in the grand scheme of things just isn't that much in 2022. Especially when you consider future projected values.
LOL! And the fools keep coming back for more.
It's funny to read a sheep talking like a sheep while accusing others of being sheep. This is really a priceless commentary on 'merica.
No, you're right, it isn't even theoretically possible that the people who have access to all the numbers might know more about the financial situation than a random person who posts on the internet.
Stop allowing your quest to be "anti-woke" make you say things that are completely stupid.
I’m sure you’ve noticed but still worth noting that it’s far too late and hopeless.
Perhaps even, the number they are comfortable with is the number that will be the case at the end of next year. Maybe that number is roughly half of the contractural number at the end of this season. And for fun, let’s pretend that amount was even offered, but was refused. Naa … you are correct. It can’t be that.
Once you decide someone is not your guy, he needs to go regardless of cost.
Nothing good will come from prolonging things just to save money.
I agree 100%. The costs you think you're saving by delaying the firing will be nothing compared to the costs of waiting in terms of future revenue and goodwill with the program. You don't do anything good by delaying the decision.
But maybe Pitt hasn't decided yet that Capel isn't their guy? This is more complicated than just financials.
So you are saying there is a chance?
Even DT seems to think that chance borders on the nonexistent.
As you pointed out at the end of the season there’s always a chance. But unless there’s a rabbit (or 3) coming out of a hat somewhere real soon it seems unlikely yet again. Based on history I wasn’t optimistic but hoped he’d hit. This team may end up a few ticks better but at this stage doesn’t appear it will be anything meaningful. Unless these twins both are much better than expected. Which also would seem unlikely.
Write checks big spenders !
I mean between you and 85 who are in your golden years - what’s hesitation ?
Seriously question /
What is your annual donation ?
Your panther club ranking ?
i mean you’re an old guy screaming on the internet - instead of being the mover and shaker you pretend to be .
Stop whining and start spending
Otherwise - shush on how the institution spends their money
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