Landing the Diaz Twins Changes Perspective
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It’s always about money , they don’t pay coaches millions to win games they pay them millions because they help their teams generate a handsome profit for university . They’re keeping Capel because it makes the most financial sense , not because they believe he’s the man to turn this around or of any social or politically correct issues . Depending on the terms of the contract he could be here for a couple of more seasons regardless of his teams performance . Those of you who rail on and on about Capel and how he’s ruining Pitt bb and impacting your life’s need to broaden your horizons. It’s all about the money and nothing else.
I think there's a chance to save millions of dollars and I don't think one more year of HCJC will put the program in an appreciably worse position than it it already is.
If I thought Capel is a good coach, I could accept a small chance that recruiting and retention fortunes could turn around.
Pantherlair gave Fede Federiko & Jorge Diaz-Graham 3 Stars! So far Guillermo Diaz Graham hasn't received any Stars yet, although I think he's a 2 Star recruit! IMO!
IMHO, based on highlight video both twins look similarly skilled. Doubt than one is significantly better than the other. Also, dont think either's skill set (especially because they are so thin) translates to a low blocks player--and maybe never even after strength training and added weight. Both, based on limited video, look like they belong as wings. Only their being 6-11 is what would make anyone think their game would be suitable to playing as a 4 or 5, IMHO. Neither seems to have a back to the basket game from what I saw on video. My overall impression is two Mo Gueye types with better ability to dribble drive and equal or perhaps better jump shooting ability.
Caveat: Highlight videos dont show the negatives.
Caveat: Highlight videos dont show the negatives.
If folks want to say Pitt should eat the buyout - they need to realize that it’s actually boosters who pay - not some pitt general ledger account
I’m fine with moving on from Capel- as he’s been very disappointing.
But I’m also not stupid and realize that pitt wasn’t able to fundraiser the buyout last year
So those who are vocal about spending - need to chip in.
Otherwise shush, and just wait it out .
One thing that nobody is recognizing is that PiTT BB is already in the toilet. It will be a huge reclamation project for any new coach that comes in, whenever that is. I'm convinced that we are in the toilet now and another year or two of Capel will not change things. Recognize that once Jamie left we were perceived as going down the tubes with the moron from Vanderbilt. It couldn't get any worse. When Capel came in there was a lot of optimism...from almost everyone. In his time here our status has not changed...we are still down the tubes. So whether he was let go now, a year from now, or two years from now, the situation will not have changed...we will still need to find (and probably overpay) a good coach to come here. I wish we could do that now, but I'm not the one writing the checks and I believe that there ARE financial limitations on the program.
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The name I keep coming back to is Jared Grasso. He will be the head coach at St John’s or somewhere like that within 2 years and everyone will be kicking themselves we didn’t hire him.
i actually think it’s the exact opposite and they need to underpay for a grinder who would appreciate the chance at the ACC instead of overpaying for someone’s retirement job. If they do well, reward them with raises or they’ll leave. Either way the program is in better shape. Giving another guy who has proven he can’t coach with Pitt’s inherent disadvantages 3 million plus up front would be malpractice. And that’s the only people you would be overpaying. Overpaying someone who is at one of the best jobs in the A10 or the like is not the answer.
The name I keep coming back to is Jared Grasso. He will be the head coach at St John’s or somewhere like that within 2 years and everyone will be kicking themselves we didn’t hire him.
I think if Capel was approached and offered a reduced buyout that he refused. You need to just part ways now. This is not how big time college athletic programs operate. Pitt is not serious about winning. That's frustrating to alot of fans. Pitt administration is basically punting on the season and the fans to save some money.
Nah. If the school is now willing to embrace NIL, and finally welcome heretofore scorned boosters to ply their wares … once a new coach with promise is in place (and few others would believe it, but this could even be Capel, if he is able to somehow have a surprising positive season) … it would be relatively fast and easy to bring things back up quickly. Football, no, not at all easy , but in basketball it certainly can.
Absolutely! We have to find a younger guy that has won at a lower level and would run through a brick wall to advance his career. It needs to be someone climbing the ladder, not backing down it.
So how much are you contributing to the buyout?!?
Because big time college athletics have boosters paying the freight .
Pitt is very far from big time.
we literally donate Pennies for every dollar big time fanbases do for athletics.
While I would like to
pay Capel off and part
ways with him immediately,
Pitt obviously is not going
to pay a multi million dollar
buyout of his contract.
With that said, I also think
Pitt should find a younger
hungry coach who can
recruit and has won at
another level. I remember
posting on here about
Hurley back when he
came in here and beat
Pitt with his Wagner
(yes, Wagner) team. At
that time he was that
younger, hungry coach.
THAT is the time to
go after a coach like that.
Of course we went after
him later when he was
established at Rhode
Island and was expensive
and in demand.
I'm not saying we should
have hired Hurley. I'm
using him as an example
as to when.... when to
hire an up and comer, or
as you said, a "grinder."
Of course, it's taking a
chance, but the alternative
isn't a guarantee either.
We ain't getting Coach K,
Pitino, or Calipari.
That's what I'm saying. You have to be realistic. Pitt isn't serious about athletics. They are not going to do what is necessary to compete with the BIG Boys. The sooner you accept that the better.
I agree the only way for Pitt to be successful is to find that young guy looking to make a name.
How is it, then, that Pitt competed with the BIG Boys when Howland and Dixon were here?
Pitt has shown its hand by sticking with JC . The question none of us really know is what the buyout is , but whatever it was Pitt/ boosters were’t willing to go there . Will the buyout be reduced enough next yr or the yr after that , that they would make a change if necessary ?
If Pitt was serious about trying to win now with JC as HC they’d encourage the big boosters to fund an NIL partnership that acquires the talent necessary to win . It’s far cheaper then paying JC off . Are the big boosters simply willing to let Pitt bb flounder because they don’t like the coach ?
If Pitt was serious about trying to win now with JC as HC they’d encourage the big boosters to fund an NIL partnership that acquires the talent necessary to win . It’s far cheaper then paying JC off . Are the big boosters simply willing to let Pitt bb flounder because they don’t like the coach ?
Far less money then and asking the same guys to bail you twice gets old .
Stallings needed to go , but one wonders had he stayed ……couldn’t be much worse !
They did it with a strong recruiting pipeline. Excellent coaching. Pitt basketball had an identity that was passed down from upper classmen to the younger guys.
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