No he doesn't. You get a decent back at a lower cost and strengthen two other positions, that eliminates alot of warts on this team.
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No he doesn't. You get a decent back at a lower cost and strengthen two other positions, that eliminates alot of warts on this team.
This is correct. We have a 1st ballot HOF QB and WR, and 3 Pro Bowl Offensive Linemen. Not too mention JuJu and Martavis are very talented also. Our offense has the exact opposite of "A lot of warts". We don't need to pay a RB with a lot of wear and tear 15 million a year to rush for 4.0 yards per carry. That money could be of better use elsewhere.
SO, that thing about confusing real football with fantasy football, Mr Pot?
This LITERALLY the definition of fantasy football, in substance, and given we are talking about the Steelers, absolute fantasy.
Which ...
Gets covered up by the offense, particularly the freak RB who makes the OL look better than it is.
Huh? You know exactly what I mean. Look, if you want to make an argument against it, fine. And I don't know why you are so hung up on the Fantasy comment, it was not aimed specifically at you, but YOU also know alot of fans overvalue players because of their fantasy performances. At the end of the day it is about W's and L's.
Not sure how hard it is for people to understand.
The defense is weak, the offense wins games, the freak dual threat RB makes a mediocre run blocking OL look better, allowing the offense to win games.
This is a dual example of group think and wanting to pick fights without thinking.
As I noted in my first response, it is very possible that he will be too cost prohibitive.
However, it is far from a sure thing that he can be replaced without it being a net negative.
Really? Does he? Maybe sometimes if he would just hit a hole and stop stutter stepping, maybe he could do just as well. Did he have a run over 20 yards last year?
Look, I am not trying to say he stinks, that he isn't good, that he is not one of, if not the best RB in the league. I am just saying, RB has been a diminished position in this league now, and when you have a HOF QB and a HOF WR, along with big talent at WR, and gaping holes on defense, you might be best served to move in another direction, or definitely see if you can get a sign and trade or tag and trade type of deal for Bell.
The OL looked pretty good in 2015 when 32yr old DeAngelo Williams ran behind it and produced similar results to Leveon. RB isn't a premium position that is why most teams don't invest premium money into it. I agreed he is a very good player, but he is already on the decline.
Are we going to get a "For Sure" player in the 3rd round like those 2? 15 mil is a lot of money. It's a h!!! of a lot of money that can be used elsewhere, but people are saying we can get the same production elsewhere. This is a very hard decision that has to be made.
LeVeon Bell touched the ball on over 49% of the offensive snaps in 2017. Again, that is not easy to replace. Whether he stutter steps or Texas two steps too much is irrelevant. He has been a vital piece of the Steelers offense.
You made the fantasy football quip in a quoted reply to my post.
Nothing I posted about in this thread is "fantasy football" related it is in fact 100 percent about Ws and Ls.
Bell saving Tomlins arse a few years ago.
How does the KC game end up this year if not for Bell?
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/12850314-74/steelers-bell-named-afc-offensive-player-of-week
The second Ravens game?
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/nLI...ploads/chorus_asset/file/9846929/bellll.0.gif
He is worth a a few wins a season, and there literally is no example of the Steelers ever not keeping one of their own players and using that money to go into FA and get two stud players to replace that player.
To my original reply in this thread - YES, it may be prohibitive to keep him, but it is FAR from a certain bet that they will be able to replace his presence on the team from a winning and losing standpoint if they do not keep him.
That's fine, but it wasn't aimed at you specifically so don't get so defensive. And like I said and was pointed out by others, DeAngelo Williams was putting up similar numbers to Bell when he filled in. No one replaces Bell, but I am saying you can have a slight drop off at that position while making other weaker positions stronger and be ahead of the game.
For a period Willie Parker was pretty damn good.. he was better than a role player
Fathead's On the downside of his career.. the OL is grossly overrated. Fathead needs a running game and this OL needs a top back.
While I agree with your point, Steelers need help at ILB and Safety. I have read ILB free agents are weak. I don't know what is available at the safety position. So if there isn't an impact player there, maybe it will be wise to re-sign Bell and try to improve team with draft
I agree a lot with this. Bell is excellent but there’s too much baggage.
One of the biggest warts on this team is Bell’s mouth. All he has done in the post season has talked or got injured.
People need to stop acting like "sign and trade" is a thing that happens in the NFL. It doesn't, this isn't the NBA. Contracts in the NFL and the salary cap are completely different between the two leagues.
In the NBA, the player can get a higher salary (than in Free Agency) if they sign with their current team. So the player benefits from a sign and trade.
There is no such thing in the NFL so a player isn't going to sign that contract to be traded when he could negotiate on his own. The player also will not sign without a significant signing bonus (~20% of total contract value) and if the player is traded, the entire signing bonus is then added to the original team's salary cap as dead money that year. Given that Bell would likely get a contract in the $60 million range, his bonus would be at least $12-15 million.
I laugh when fans think players' mouths are a distraction. They're the same fans that believe in bulletin board material "hypes" the opponent. Maybe 20 years, maybe in college, definitely in hs.
Gradkowski said on the radio the biggest issue with the Steelers is Tomlin doesn't reinforce the importance of details due to a lack of discipline.
Gradkowski said on the radio the biggest issue with the Steelers is Tomlin doesn't reinforce the importance of details due to a lack of discipline.
Yes he does! The Steelers Oline is not great run blockers - they don’t have a true road grader. They have a bunch of technicians - Bell gets yardage that the average back wouldn’t get. The trade Bell talk is idiotic...you just don’t give away the best player at his position. And why everyone talks about the money being too much, you don’t hear about the combined 23 million they spent on two defensive lineman who had a grand total of 2 tackles in a playoff game. Pay the man!
