i am not sure why there have been so many St. John's posts this off-season, but, here is another. Their best recruit this year, LoVett, has been ruled ineligible. He can practice with the team, but cannot play this season. More minutes for Durand!
More bad news for St Johns
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When I first saw the title, I thought maybe Durand got suspended again and is done from playing CBB after never playing much at all.
Lol would have been funny.
Can't believe St. John's lost to a D2 school by more than 30 pts. Embarrassing!
Go Pitt...
I'm not one to put down Pitt recruiting but this offseason has made me really start to see how far behind in that regard we are. For one, Penn State, one of the all-time worst basketball programs in America, has a top 10-15 class. Then yesterday I hear about Thon Maker's final 6 teams: Arizona State, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Notre Dame, and St. Johns! Indiana, Kansas, UK I get, but Pitt can not recruit as highly touted kids that ASU, ND, and St. John's do? I realize this will be moot as 5 of those teams will not have this kid on their roster, but how can Pitt really not even be in the mix most of the time for any big-time recruits? I was totally ok with it when we were having success with the approach we take, and I think we have a lot of kids on this year's team who are more like the mid-2000's players.
It just baffles me that schools can start recruiting big before they've even made it onto the college basketball map really (in Penn State's case.) Pitt has good facilities and a great home court advantage too. The only thing I think that even makes sense to me is kids do want to play in Dixon's system. It has proven not to get them to the Association because they don't really get showcased in his system. We've also had few guys that were that good, so this may be false, but perception is everything when we're talking about 17-18 year old kids.
I've never heard anyone who is anyone in the college basketball world say anything about Dixon's recruiting other than nobody hits the recruiting trail harder than Jamie. So I really don't think he is a bad recruiter, it's just his system kind of defeats him in the offseason before he has a chance to make his sales pitch.
To be honest, I'm kind of done with recruiting rankings and whatnot. We had a lot of success for several years, and it wound up being miserable. I like this site for the inside information some posters have and some of the different features done, but in terms of rankings/evaluations I could just as well do without them.
In general, college basketball recruiting is just bizarre. Far more so than football. I also think with all of the turnover and one-and-dones that it doesn't matter quite as much as in football where you have kids for a minimum of 3 years and not nearly as many transfers.
Thon Maker is probably a good example of the weirdness of college basketball. At various points in time he's being reclassifying to 2015, sticking in 2016, going to the D-League, going to Europe, and trying to circumvent going to college before heading to the NBA. He has a "guardian" who seems to enjoy the face time of giving various updates about what his intentions are, often times teasing it for several days to media members and then giving a small piece of information like "still undecided". Honestly, I'm a little surprised that Notre Dame is recruiting him, as they tend to be a little bit more above the fray than that.
I don't really buy the system thing too much, to be honest.
In general, college basketball recruiting is just bizarre. Far more so than football. I also think with all of the turnover and one-and-dones that it doesn't matter quite as much as in football where you have kids for a minimum of 3 years and not nearly as many transfers.
Thon Maker is probably a good example of the weirdness of college basketball. At various points in time he's being reclassifying to 2015, sticking in 2016, going to the D-League, going to Europe, and trying to circumvent going to college before heading to the NBA. He has a "guardian" who seems to enjoy the face time of giving various updates about what his intentions are, often times teasing it for several days to media members and then giving a small piece of information like "still undecided". Honestly, I'm a little surprised that Notre Dame is recruiting him, as they tend to be a little bit more above the fray than that.
I don't really buy the system thing too much, to be honest.
Who did Thon Maker pick? We HAVE been on high recruits finals lists, and not gotten them. Just like you say these other school's won't get Maker. You must not have been paying attention. Diallo anyone? I guess you're impressed with just being on lists and not getting the recruit, but that's a little bit of a goofy metric.
