Narduzzi and the hot seat
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I totally agreed. At that time I literally said, lets see what his recruits do, and if they dont do shit, we should can him. And... I am sure we would have canned him. Nice guys are great and all, but anyone has to perform... unless your Steve Harvey, that guy gets any job he wants.
I am optimistic, I try to always be, but I am super ok with firing anyone if you have a hell of a plan. People here always want to fire the manager, the head coach, they whoever, but without a back up. If we hire the same schlubs, then all you did is put yourself back extra years. A change to make a change isnt good, consistency is good. Now consistent shit isnt good, but we are 'good' yes, we have absolutely improved the rep nationally. That is ok for now.
Well I agree. Outside of totally off the rails, 3-9 type year, he isn’t going anywhere for at least two years.
I do
Want to see an OC and offensive philosophy change.
Eliminate mistakes. The Duzz does not kick field goals. The Duzz has never committed a false start penalty. The Duzz hasn't missed any blocks either. He does however recruit the kids who made these mistakes. If recruiting does not improve, I would expect these mistakes to continue. When talent on two teams is reasonably equal, you u have to play clean to win.
I would like to blame the coach for these problems, but I can't. You see, I, like many of you, have seen coaches come and go here. Each and every one of them had trouble with the team making too many mistakes. Unfortunately, for the mistakes to wane (I realize it is very hard to play an entire game mistake free) it is going to take better talent.
I hate to say it, but, we are what we are. Many here know it and accept it. Others will never except it. We are a 6-6 to 8-4 type team. It takes some special talent like Pickett and Addison to be more. When we lose alot of nfl capable talent as we did last season, it is only natural to expect a somewhat down year. I still think we have the right coach for us. If you disagree, then you have to think there are great coaches out there who can recruit 4 star talent and want to come here. I don't think that is the case.
I would like to blame the coach for these problems, but I can't. You see, I, like many of you, have seen coaches come and go here. Each and every one of them had trouble with the team making too many mistakes. Unfortunately, for the mistakes to wane (I realize it is very hard to play an entire game mistake free) it is going to take better talent.
I hate to say it, but, we are what we are. Many here know it and accept it. Others will never except it. We are a 6-6 to 8-4 type team. It takes some special talent like Pickett and Addison to be more. When we lose alot of nfl capable talent as we did last season, it is only natural to expect a somewhat down year. I still think we have the right coach for us. If you disagree, then you have to think there are great coaches out there who can recruit 4 star talent and want to come here. I don't think that is the case.
Yeah, I dont think anyone is a Cignetti fan, but after bringing in 'his guy' I honestly had a lot of hope. I am 100% not throwing the hope away after one miserable performance of the QB. I still think having the QB run to the sideline
Saying we are a 6-6 team is no difference than saying we are a 10-2 team. Its equally as ridiculous to say.
Under Narduzzi we are:
8-4
8-4
5-7
7-6
7-5
6-5
11-2
9-4
that is 62-37 or 8-4 average. If you say its 6-6 then 10-2 is just as likely. Is 8-4 great? No, but hell, that is a good average and if we have a great qb or player, we will be 10-2, and if we have a rash of draft picks leave and injuries, then we will be 6-6
We were .500 or below ONE TIME and people are saying "6-6". Please.
If you say. Looking at those records the outlier is the 11-2 season, and if you want to include 9-4 that also is above the average. Keep in mind that the prior two seasons were aided by covid providing extra eligibility. We are a 6-6 to 8-4 team otherwise. We don't get enough top talent, particularly on offense, to be more than that.
I love how we have two 8-4 seasons and you consider 9-4 a possible outlier as well? Get off it. We can read the records.
Im not "saying"
Im analyzing with statistical accuracy.
We are am AVERAGE 8-4 season team.... STATISTICALLY... which is not a feeling, or saying, its science.
Actually, science has us at 4.625 losses for the 8 seasons. Go ahead and round down though if it makes you feel better. Perhaps 7.5-4.5 is more accurate.
The ACC is bad. I'm concerned about this team's talent (it's not hollow and has some depth, but lacks studs.) But I think we'll be bowl eligible and once again do fine in ACC play.
I didnt round at all
AGAIN.... since youre too daft to read above::::::
Under Narduzzi we are:
8-4
8-4
5-7
7-6
7-5
6-5
11-2
9-4
that is 62-37 or 8-4 average. If you say its 6-6 then 10-2 is just as likely. Is 8-4 great? No, but hell, that is a good average and if we have a great qb or player, we will be 10-2, and if we have a rash of draft picks leave and injuries, then we will be 6-6
So, over 8 seasons, in the regular season we can say we will have 8 win season each season.
Thats all. You can argue whatever you want, but as I said, saying 10-2, 10-3 is just as likely as 6-6 using the statistics... due to the average
No, I didnt count bowl games, regular season. Bowl games are exhibition games, we dont have most our team playing
Then they were 8-4 last year not 9-4
Yeah, I wrote that from memory, my fault, the stats I pulled were from 21 and before, so it would be 61 wins which still rounds to 8 wins a year (>60)
I would say PN definitely has done good with what he has had here. Then again he’s been building this thing for 7-8 years now. He has given Pitt much needed stability and I respect that immensely in today’s college football. Saying all that, anything less than 8 wins is a disappointment. Hopefully the loss hit hard to the team and staff, because it should. Maybe its the wake up call they need? And a good coach will have his team ready this Saturday!!!
I hope everybody here realizes that this level of inanity cannot be gotten just anywhere.
I know... numbers right?
I should have known not to talk statistics with someone who prefers feelings. Well, I am pretty sure everyone can see the numbers, research it themselves and know we dont average 6-6 record, and if we do average 8-4 then my point that 6-6 is the same as 10-2 is also accurate (plus/minus 2)... but again, I dont want to get into any math with you, as I know you cant handle it.
Covid also wiped out a very favorable schedule in 2020. That team should have been a 10 win team with the original schedule and not dealing with player issues from covid.
Bowl games count even when players skip them. Because they factor into the final AP poll, coaches poll, computer metrics, team stats, and individual stats. The record will live on forever on Wikipedia. The coach's contract may have bonuses for win totals. It counts.. It's better to win one than lose one, which isn't true of a "real" exhibition game (e.g. no one cares if you win a preseason NBA game.)
Eh.
There’s two games on the remaining schedule after WVU that are you pencil in as losses as hope for the best. FSU and ND.
Then UNC, which some would argue is maybe should be grouped with FSU and ND.
BC and VT are really bad.
Syracuse I don’t know, this weekend will determine that I think.
And the rest are 40-60 to 60-40 type games.
A win at WVU creates a little margin for error at least. A loss and there’s no margin.
No.....
Just when fans are about to bury Narduzzi, he comes back... It will happen again this year... He'll get a big win against FSU or ND and the Cincy game will be forgotten...
He's got more lives than Rasputin...
Like most programs we have fans with hearts on their sleeves, or “blue gold glasses” or whatever preferred term, and since Pitt tends to lose so many Bowl games, they need to reconcile the failures in their minds, so that is where the “bowls are meaningless exhibitions” nonsense comes from.
Rarely (aka never) do our trolls from Boy Rape U and Sheep Rape U come here to console us for yet another bowl defeat with that opinion. “Tough one guys, but forget it, it’s just a meaningless exhibition.”
I spit out my coffee laughing....at you.
If you, or any other dopes believe that Heather Lyke is going to give PN a participation trophy for going 6-6 or worse, then you imbeciles are beyond repair.
In fact, if Heather Lyke was NOT contemplating Narduzzis future after a dissapointing season
Then maybe HL is the one who's seat should be warm.
I’ll be the latest one to break it to you, hopefully somewhat less harsh.
Pitt will not be the least bit contemplative of Narduzzi if/when we have a disappointing season.
Pitt football is currently providing exactly its role to Pitt (and therefore the extent of Pitt’s interest) by way of its mere existence.
The existence, whether 0-12 or vice versa (but likely exactly in the middle this season) ensures the contractual share we get from the ACC via ESPN.
If the bottom fell completely out after multiple seasons, like it did with Stallings, there would be enough of uproar to force Pitt to address the coach.
Until then…football team’s performance is of no interest at all to Pitt. A nuisance to have to be endured.
coming off back to back 10 win seasons. Most wins in ACC besides Clemson in his tenure. Runs a clean program, kids graduate and are active in community. Does more with three star players than most coaches in the country, player development is strong. Retains a solid coaching staff and has reputation for overseeing a strong culture for players. Conf title and 2 conf championship appearances. Just sent 6 draft picks to NFL this year which was tied for 1st in ACC and 5th nationally.
And you think this guy will be on the hot seat?
And you think this guy will be on the hot seat?
He is absolutely not on the hot seat.... not even close to a warm seat. It is, however, disappointing that this is another year in that we cannot get through an out of conference schedule without a loss. I would love to do it just once!
In my opinion, we should play WVU then nothing but shitty teams. Pay for OOC wins. Don’t care about attendance or what other people think at all. We should try to pay to get to ACC play undefeated every year. Period.
I pithed frogs in junior high that had more to offer intellectually than you do, pal. You might try self-pithing, to end your misery.
At least, every time you post you provide insight into what true stupidity really is. In some regard, that is useful context.
Good AD's don't overreact to 1 "disappointing" season. They are far more stable than insane fans.
true, Brian Kelly followed up a 4 win season with a playoff spot or two I believe. Even knucklehead franklin in year 8 followed up a 6 loss season with 2 good years.
I'm not sure how you conclude that the ACC is 'bad' this year, if you've been paying attention.
This hot seat for Pitt coaches is so tiresome. Worked wonders in the past firing Gottfried and Wannstedt.
One firing led to a decade of incompetence. The other led to looking like a Mickey Mouse operation and four consecutive 6-6 seasons.
Imagine how favorable Pitt’s football history would look with an average of 8 wins with Gottfried in the 90s and keeping Wannstedt four more years being an 8-9 win program?
For some reason though a lot of fans expect 10-win seasons consistently because Dorsett and Marino once played for the school.
One firing led to a decade of incompetence. The other led to looking like a Mickey Mouse operation and four consecutive 6-6 seasons.
Imagine how favorable Pitt’s football history would look with an average of 8 wins with Gottfried in the 90s and keeping Wannstedt four more years being an 8-9 win program?
For some reason though a lot of fans expect 10-win seasons consistently because Dorsett and Marino once played for the school.
Bad is relative (no WVU pun intended there). If the ACC is ‘bad’ but our talent this season is worse (sure looking like it so far), is the ACC actually bad?
This reminds me of the Philosophy class I took at Pitt (when I’d occasionally actually attend it) … “if the pope sh1ts in the woods…” oh wait that was Steve Martin…
This reminds me of the Philosophy class I took at Pitt (when I’d occasionally actually attend it) … “if the pope sh1ts in the woods…” oh wait that was Steve Martin…
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