Combo G Ryan Murphy who played at New Mexico JC last year but has 1 year D1 experience. Played his Frosh year at Charlotte putting up 7 ppg shooting 40% from 3. He gave a verbal to PAC 10 Washington St but backed out after they fired their coach. Had a 27 pt game vs Old Dominion while at Charlotte
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Kid looks like more than a stand still shooter. Seems to have a feel for the game, passes it well.
Kinda what we need: third guard, three point shooter, play about 16-20 minutes a game.
Sign him and bring in Quinerly as a sit a year transfer.
Understandably hard, to bring in a great talent at guard with Johnson and McGowens looking like they will play about 32 minutes apiece.
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I will tell you one thing. If my goal was to play at the major college level (football or basketball), I would wait until the last possible minute to sign because in both sports, it seems like coaches are left scrambling and will take marginal 1 or 2 star recruits and hope they hit the lottery. Like these types of players never get major offers until very late when all others have signed.
This kid is no stiff. Not a great athlete, but we have some of those at guard already. He can shoot, and he can dribble and create room for his shot. Working with Steph Curry has to be a huge plus. Bottom line, I think this kid can help us.
I tend to agree, and probably won't scare away any higher end guards who HCJC needs to get into the chute to replace X or Trey in the next class.
This guy has been out West (NM JC) and committed last November to Washington State until coaching change (as already noted above) so one might think he might not want to come East. However, he is originally from Connecticut.
24/7 rates him as a 3-star JUCO recruit
http://www.nmjcthunderbirds.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/players/ryanmurphy62xc
Wonder if he was injured. He only played 13 games. Only shot 28% from 3. Was 81.4% on FTs.
Some other info--
He previously had shot 41 percent from 3 when at UNC Charlotte.
Before committing to WSU he had offers from Texas Tech, South Florida.
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Who are you talking about? This kid had signed with Washington State and had a reported offer from Texas Tech.
Or you might just not get any offers . With most kids playing AAU ball they know how good they are and most want to play so why go somewhere were your chances are slim of ever seeing the court ?
He averaged 18.5ppg and an article I saw said he "started in all 13 games he played". I believe he had a foot injury.
Guys like Cam Johnson (worked out)
Kham Davis
Kene Chukwuka
Lots of teams take reaches late just to fill a ship and hope they hit the lottery. 1/10 "make it" like Cam.
I believe the foot injury (broken bone) at Charlotte explains a lot. The JUCO lists him as a Redshirt Soph and he only played in 13 games. It looks like he sat half a season rehabbing the injury. It also likely explains the drop in his shooting percentage (regular and 3-point) during his short JUCO RS Soph season as compared to his Charlotte percentage -- not yet 100% back from rehabbing foot.
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His game (Video Highlights of his play at Charlotte) makes him appear more like a JWF shooter replacement than a N'Dir replacement. N'Dir was more of a point guard/slasher with hops. Murphy looks to be more of a 3 point specialist with a mid-range game if he is too closely guarded on the perimeter. Also, Murphy is an 81% FT shooter (JUCO stat).
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He can back up trey and x, shoot, drive,
He can get up to 20 minutes a game, it's not like we have many other options.
He seems to be known as a relentless worker and training with Steph Curry all the time is pretty cool.
He can get up to 20 minutes a game, it's not like we have many other options.
He seems to be known as a relentless worker and training with Steph Curry all the time is pretty cool.
Yep he is more than a stand still shooter. Hits shots coming off screens and off the bounce.
Getting him 20 minutes PT a game would not be hard. If X and Trey avg 32 min that’s 16 min behind them and you get another 4 or so in a 3 guard set.
The PT is available and Pitt needs shooters bad.
I usually don't care for these sorts of players, but I like what I'm seeing. He's not a great athlete, but he clearly has quite a motor. More importantly, I like his foot work and the little feints he uses to create shots. I absolutely love how he isn't just a spot up shooter and his stroke looks good from a mechanical standpoint. Compact and repeatable. I've never heard of him before, but he definitely doesn't look like a reach that we're only offering because we need bodies.
Agree as normally I would not want him either for Pitt. But this kid knows how to play. As you said his footwork is excellent and you can tell he really works on his game with the little moves uses to get open.
Besides working with Curry he also learned from another great shooter who was not athletic in former NBA player Mark Price. He was the kids coach at Charlotte & the kid decided to leave after Price was fired.
Just curious. Why would you not normally want a player who is a legitimate three point threat who is fundamentally sound and can create his own shot
To clarify I normally would not want a small 6’1” or 6’2” 2G spot up shooter, as 2G his primary position. I may have not made it clear (my bad) because he is way more than ur typical small spot up shooter. This kid is an avg athlete BUT the difference is he has moves, excellent footwork, quick release, knows how to set up and read screens to get off his shot easily. For what ever reason most small shooters don’t have the skills he has.
A typical kid who is a good shooter but is small and not athletic was Ronald Ramon. Ramon played with talented players who could set him up. But could not create for himself off the bounce as this kid can.
I’ll give you 3 examples from the video I posted in my original post:
1.) at the 1:28 mark watch the perfectly executed Hesi step back to free him self for the J. That is reminiscent of his old coach Mark Price. You can tell he has worked on this move a zillion times. He’s not just in the gym shooting Jumpers off the gun.
2.) at the 1:52 mark he is overplayed for the J, he uses an excellent shot fake and finishes in the lane.
3.) at the 2:14 mark coming of the screen for the floater. This kid is SUPER well trained at reading the defender and setting up the screen. You can tell he has drilled over and over non stop. Lots of guys can come off screens but few can make the right reads without hesitation on they fly.
All 3 examples I gave are things that your typical small shooter who is not a great athlete needs to get off shots. Not trying to bash Ronald Ramon but most small shooters like him didn’t & don’t have these skills. It’s clear the kid has learned a lot working with Curry & Price.
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Good post. I mentioned a similar observation in another thread. You're right
about his "footwork." There's a lot of good shooters out there, but being able
to get your shot off is another skill entirely. This guy seems to have a good
offensive floor game. He moves very well with and without the ball. He
not only comes off screens very well, but he seems able to create his own shot,
gets into the lane, dishes off, and shoots off the dribble. Those are qualities
you want in a shooting guard. I don't want to change the direction of this thread
by mentioning the king of all stand up shooters who we had two seasons ago,
but compare this guy to that guy.
We need guards. This guy could be one, and we still could get another while
we're still in the hunt for a Big.
about his "footwork." There's a lot of good shooters out there, but being able
to get your shot off is another skill entirely. This guy seems to have a good
offensive floor game. He moves very well with and without the ball. He
not only comes off screens very well, but he seems able to create his own shot,
gets into the lane, dishes off, and shoots off the dribble. Those are qualities
you want in a shooting guard. I don't want to change the direction of this thread
by mentioning the king of all stand up shooters who we had two seasons ago,
but compare this guy to that guy.
We need guards. This guy could be one, and we still could get another while
we're still in the hunt for a Big.
Thanks UP. I just wanted to get your thoughts because from what I saw this kid is more than just a small uathletic spot up shooter. He knows how to create his shot and can also get to the rim and finish despite not being a top end athlete. In simple terms the kids a very good complete basketball player I get that we would not want a stand still shooter but this kid really doesn’t fit that description
Totally agree. Like you said he can create his shot and get to the rim & finish with out being a top end athlete. And he is far from the typical spot up shooter. He could step in from day 1 and be a great fit for this team. Hope JC can lock him up.
If we are not going to pay, maybe that is the only way forward for this staff.
