Next round of expansion

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Here is what you are telling me:

Step 1: The ACC signs with ESPN and uses Raycom as a syndicator.

Step 2: ?????

Step 3: The ACC doesn't get a network.

Do you see what I'm getting at? You keep saying Raycom prevented the ACC from getting a network, but you don't explain HOW Raycom prevented the ACC from getting a network. The links you are posting are not answering the question. I want you to list, step by step, specifically how Raycom is preventing the ACC from getting a network.



First point. The fact that you refuse to answer the questions shows that you can't answer it.

Second point. Your question doesn't make sense. If you have a conference network, then you don't have ANY syndicator. ESPN was syndicating SEC games with Comcast prior to forming the network. In order to start the network, ESPN had to buy out the syndication package from Comcast. The exact same thing is true for the ACC. ESPN will have to buy out they syndication package from Raycom. There is no difference.

I have nothing but the highest respect for you and your postings and you will just have to accept my flaws and all in believing as my opinion, that Raycom was not worth saving, Swofford made mistakes in ACC Expansions 1 & 2, was reactive not having GOR Rights in place and B1G and SEC Commissioners ran rings around him and Pac-12 and Big-12, and I thank you for pointing out to me that the ACC Presidents may be the bigger problem too.

I learned from you, and had to look up so much more to recall, and thank you again, but Raycom should went out of business because they were not capable to provide SEC with the muscle to expand SEC Football Media, and the same goes for the ACC, but the ACC thought otherwise.

The Links back up why SEC DUMPED Raycom and ACC SAVED Raycom, you and others can differ, but purchasing aspects of Small $50 Million Nearly Bankrupted Businesses is smarter than helping them, and SEC chose one way, the ACC chose another!

ACC AD's are worried about the future of the ACC while B1G-Fox and SEC-ESPN are not, and both chose not to help save Raycom, live with it!

When the ACC forms a Network or alternative with Raycom I'll admit I was wrong not Swofford or ACC, until then, again live with agreeing to disagree.

 

[topdecktiger]

I have nothing but the highest respect for you and your postings and you will just have to accept my flaws and all in believing as my opinion, that Raycom was not worth saving, Swofford made mistakes in ACC Expansions 1 & 2, was reactive not having GOR Rights in place and B1G and SEC Commissioners ran rings around him and Pac-12 and Big-12, and I thank you for pointing out to me that the ACC Presidents may be the bigger problem too.

I learned from you, and had to look up so much more to recall, and thank you again, but Raycom should went out of business because they were not capable to provide SEC with the muscle to expand SEC Football Media, and the same goes for the ACC, but the ACC thought otherwise.

The Links back up why SEC DUMPED Raycom and ACC SAVED Raycom, you and others can differ, but purchasing aspects of Small $50 Million Nearly Bankrupted Businesses is smarter than helping them, and SEC chose one way, the ACC chose another!

ACC AD's are worried about the future of the ACC while B1G-Fox and SEC-ESPN are not, and both chose not to help save Raycom, live with it!

When the ACC forms a Network or alternative with Raycom I'll admit I was wrong not Swofford or ACC, until then, again live with agreeing to disagree.

Ok, maybe I haven't made my position clear. You said:

my opinion, that Raycom was not worth saving

See, I don't care about that. I'm not trying to tell you that Raycom was worth saving. If you think Raycom should have gone out of business, I have no problem wit that. I don't care about Raycom one way or the other. My point to you is that Raycom is irrelevant. Raycom is a minor issue. The big issue for the ACC is getting a conference network, and Raycom doesn't have anything to do with that. Raycom is not, and did not, prevent the ACC from getting a network. That's the only thing that is important. Whether you think the ACC should have dumped Raycom for Comcast is just a minor point for an abstract discussion. It doesn't have any relevance to the ACC's situation today.

As far as agree to disagree, that's not an option. We are dealing with facts here. You have claimed, as I understand your posts, that Raycom has prevented the ACC from starting a network. Again, you still haven't said HOW Raycom is preventing a network.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Ok, maybe I haven't made my position clear. You said:

my opinion, that Raycom was not worth saving

See, I don't care about that. I'm not trying to tell you that Raycom was worth saving. If you think Raycom should have gone out of business, I have no problem wit that. I don't care about Raycom one way or the other. My point to you is that Raycom is irrelevant. Raycom is a minor issue. The big issue for the ACC is getting a conference network, and Raycom doesn't have anything to do with that. Raycom is not, and did not, prevent the ACC from getting a network. That's the only thing that is important. Whether you think the ACC should have dumped Raycom for Comcast is just a minor point for an abstract discussion. It doesn't have any relevance to the ACC's situation today.

As far as agree to disagree, that's not an option. We are dealing with facts here. You have claimed, as I understand your posts, that Raycom has prevented the ACC from starting a network. Again, you still haven't said HOW Raycom is preventing a network.

I know SEC did not need, want, or chose to keep thm to form the SEC-ESPN Network.

I also know the ACC that did want to save and retain Raycom still can't say how Raycom help create an ACC Network either since the ACC does not have any Network after 6 years?

I accept and agree to disagree and thank you again!

 

[topdecktiger]

I know SEC did not need, want, or chose to keep thm to form the SEC-ESPN Network.

I also know the ACC that did want to save and retain Raycom still can't say how Raycom help create an ACC Network either since the ACC does not have any Network after 6 years?

I accept and agree to disagree and thank you again!

But that doesn't say HOW Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network. The HOW is important to know. If you say that Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network, there has to be some correlation.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

But that doesn't say HOW Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network. The HOW is important to know. If you say that Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network, there has to be some correlation.

Thanks, TPT, I'm very comfortable with my position. The ACC is meeting and Swofford can convey and update the League where they are at on the ACC Network when it becomes a reality

Until then, the SEC-ESPN NETWORK has done great without Raycom!

EXCERPT
Don’t expect an ACC-branded TV channel to be launched any time soon. The biggest problem so far is a rights issue. ESPN needs to control the conference’s syndicated rights to launch a channel. But those rights are tied up until 2027 through deals with Raycom and Fox Sports Net. “There’s no way an ACC network co-exists with a syndicated model,” said Chris Bevilacqua, a media consultant who worked with the Pac-12 to form a league network. “They’re going to have to get those rights back.”.............
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The main roadblock is rights. When it signed its ACC deal in 2010, ESPN and Charlotte-based Raycom Sports cut a deal that grants Raycom the ACC’s digital and corporate sponsorship rights, plus a heavy dose of live football and basketball games. Through a sublicensing agreement, Raycom owns the rights to 31 live football games and 60 live men’s basketball games. Even if the conference is able to buy back those rights from Raycom, a second roadblock remains. Raycom sublicensed 17 of those football games and 25 of those basketball games to Fox, which carries the games on its regional sports networks throughout the ACC footprint. Live local sports programming is important to Fox’s RSNs, and they are not likely to give up those games cheaply.
Those deals extend through 2027. It’s unlikely that ESPN will try to launch a channel without those rights The games that stay with Raycom make up the ACC’s long-running syndicated package that is distributed to more than 50 million households on over-the-air networks, and reaches 25 of the top 50 U.S. TV markets. . ESPN brought all of those rights — TV, digital, sponsorship — together as it formed the SEC Network, which launches in August 2014. “I just wonder if the ACC is a little late to the party,” Bevilacqua said. “They had the opportunity to look at this several years ago and decided not to pursue it, when in fact, that was the more appropriate window. A lot has happened since then, and a lot of other programming services have popped up. There’s even more headwind out there now that makes launching a network not impossible, but certainly harder to do.” The ACC has made the case that its league is perfectly suited for a channel. It cites figures that show the ACC has more TV households in its footprint, 43 million, than any other conference.
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/05/20/Media/ACC-net.aspx

 

[topdecktiger]

Thanks, TPT, I'm very comfortable with my position. The ACC is meeting and Swofford can convey and update the League where they are at on the ACC Network when it becomes a reality

Until then, the SEC-ESPN NETWORK has done great without Raycom!

EXCERPT
Don’t expect an ACC-branded TV channel to be launched any time soon. The biggest problem so far is a rights issue. ESPN needs to control the conference’s syndicated rights to launch a channel. But those rights are tied up until 2027 through deals with Raycom and Fox Sports Net. “There’s no way an ACC network co-exists with a syndicated model,” said Chris Bevilacqua, a media consultant who worked with the Pac-12 to form a league network. “They’re going to have to get those rights back.”.............
...........
The main roadblock is rights. When it signed its ACC deal in 2010, ESPN and Charlotte-based Raycom Sports cut a deal that grants Raycom the ACC’s digital and corporate sponsorship rights, plus a heavy dose of live football and basketball games. Through a sublicensing agreement, Raycom owns the rights to 31 live football games and 60 live men’s basketball games. Even if the conference is able to buy back those rights from Raycom, a second roadblock remains. Raycom sublicensed 17 of those football games and 25 of those basketball games to Fox, which carries the games on its regional sports networks throughout the ACC footprint. Live local sports programming is important to Fox’s RSNs, and they are not likely to give up those games cheaply. The games that stay with Raycom make up the ACC’s long-running syndicated package that is distributed to more than 50 million households on over-the-air networks, and reaches 25 of the top 50 U.S. TV markets. Those deals extend through 2027. It’s unlikely that ESPN will try to launch a channel without those rights. ESPN brought all of those rights — TV, digital, sponsorship — together as it formed the SEC Network, which launches in August 2014. “I just wonder if the ACC is a little late to the party,” Bevilacqua said. “They had the opportunity to look at this several years ago and decided not to pursue it, when in fact, that was the more appropriate window. A lot has happened since then, and a lot of other programming services have popped up. There’s even more headwind out there now that makes launching a network not impossible, but certainly harder to do.” The ACC has made the case that its league is perfectly suited for a channel. It cites figures that show the ACC has more TV households in its footprint, 43 million, than any other conference.
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/05/20/Media/ACC-net.aspx

I don't even know what your position is. That's the whole point.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I don't even know what your position is. That's the whole point.

Sure you do read the Links how the ACC blew it saving Raycon:
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/05/20/Media/ACC-net.aspx

See now that you read the Link, all can see that Raycon is as useful to the ACC Network as an ashtray on a motorcycle!

Raycom Stations Dark To DirecTV Customers
Retrans Spat Involves 43 Stations, Mostly in South
LINK:
http://www.multichannel.com/news/news-articles/raycom-stations-dark-directv-customers/383481

Raycom dispute leaves Browns-Steelers game up in the air for DirecTV customers
LINK
http://www.multichannel.com/news/news-articles/raycom-stations-dark-directv-customers/383481

Raycom Media Stations Go Dark On Dish Network Due To Retransmission Dispute
Link:
http://deadline.com/2013/08/dish-network-raycom-retransmission-consent-dispute-stations-dark-5544

I wonder how people watch Raycom's ACC when Channels goes dark by Raycom?
By definition Raycom being below average really isn't that bad. Well, it's worse than about half though. The ACC must have been a real epiphany when Swofford realized that about Raycom that's pretty common. A lot of people share a fear of mediocrity. The ACC when it chose Raycom should have known better that Trophy Media Syndicate like Raycom are supposed to be beautiful?

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

I am thoroughly enjoying topdecktiger trying to explain this to CaptainReilly.......

Hey topdecktiger have you banged your head against a wall yet?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Really missing the WVU folks telling us how they hit it out of the park by going to the Big 12 and how Pitt will be a cast-off to the FCS when it all works itself out. Expansion threads really feel empty without them.

Anyone ever check to see if The Dude is okay?

We don't need the Dude. We got our own....SMF

 

[topdecktiger]

Sure you do read the Links how the ACC blew it saving Raycon:
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/05/20/Media/ACC-net.aspx

See now that you read the Link, all can see that Raycon is as useful to the ACC Network as an ashtray on a motorcycle!

Raycom Stations Dark To DirecTV Customers
Retrans Spat Involves 43 Stations, Mostly in South
LINK:
http://www.multichannel.com/news/news-articles/raycom-stations-dark-directv-customers/383481

Raycom dispute leaves Browns-Steelers game up in the air for DirecTV customers
LINK
http://www.multichannel.com/news/news-articles/raycom-stations-dark-directv-customers/383481

Raycom Media Stations Go Dark On Dish Network Due To Retransmission Dispute
Link:
http://deadline.com/2013/08/dish-network-raycom-retransmission-consent-dispute-stations-dark-5544

I wonder how people watch Raycom's ACC when Channels goes dark by Raycom?
By definition Raycom being below average really isn't that bad. Well, it's worse than about half though. The ACC must have been a real epiphany when Swofford realized that about Raycom that's pretty common. A lot of people share a fear of mediocrity. The ACC when it chose Raycom should have known better that Trophy Media Syndicate like Raycom are supposed to be beautiful?

No, I don't know your position at all. I asked you a simple question. How has Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network? None of the links you posted explained that. If you can't answer that question in two or three simple sentences, then you don't have an answer.

 

[ThePanthers]

No, I don't know your position at all. I asked you a simple question. How has Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network? None of the links you posted explained that. If you can't answer that question in two or three simple sentences, then you don't have an answer.

HAHAHAHA. If you ask him what color the sky is, it will be a long, very purple answer.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Some people just don't understand the difference between correlation and causation. Maybe we can find a link that explains it.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

No, I don't know your position at all. I asked you a simple question. How has Raycom stopped the ACC from having a network? None of the links you posted explained that. If you can't answer that question in two or three simple sentences, then you don't have an answer.

Go up and read your positions again before you get confused again, and see you did ask me how Raycom was preventing an ACC Network, and before that then you posted Swofford was not at fault the ACC Presidents were, and then you posted how you care so much about Raycom, when I posted showing how they have the ACC going Dark instead of Ratings, and how they are now an obstacle to an ACC network while Swofford took care of Raycom while missing the boat on forming a channel before SEC.............ALL IN THE LINK BELOW backing up my opinion!

So go and read and post under that link what you disagree with and my Link by an Expert smarter than you and me, backs up it is my position ACC saving Raycom us why there is no ACC Network enjoy the reading. So Respond To The Excerpt Below If You Can Because it Tells You Raycom Is Problem Now In Forming An ACC Network:

My position is clear and back up by the Link that supports my opinion on Raycom.

SEC and ESPN did not need Raycom to form any part of the Profitable SEC-ESPN Network!

The ACC saving Raycom has no ACC-ESPN Network and Raycom is making for Raycom with ACC Rights and that was a mistake Swofford made in not forming the Network without Raycom, and the Links back my position up, and you know it!

EXCERPT
"Don’t expect an ACC-branded TV channel to be launched any time soon. The biggest problem so far is a rights issue. ESPN needs to control the conference’s syndicated rights to launch a channel. But those rights are tied up until 2027 through deals with Raycom and Fox Sports Net. “There’s no way an ACC network co-exists with a syndicated model,” said Chris Bevilacqua, a media consultant who worked with the Pac-12 to form a league network. “They’re going to have to get those rights back.”.
Hmnnnn, what do you think, did Raycom help form an ACC network or did Raycom keep one from forming and is a big Swofford Mistake??? My postion Raycom was mistake and Swofford mistake that has delayed the ACC Network?...........

"The main roadblock is rights. When it signed its ACC deal in 2010, ESPN and Charlotte-based Raycom Sports cut a deal that grants Raycom the ACC’s digital and corporate sponsorship rights, plus a heavy dose of live football and basketball games. Through a sublicensing agreement, Raycom owns the rights to 31 live football games and 60 live men’s basketball games."
Oh my, another position I agree with and why you had to admit and hid behind that SEC "CHOSE" not to renew Raycom but yous aid ESPN did, and all I said, I was right, SEC & ESPN did not need Raycom and formed a Network without them!

The ACC Swofford thought otherwise and still has no ACC Network with Raycom being saved from Bankruptcy as Raycom CEO has said! This is my position, if SEC did not need Raycom and got a Network, why did ACC save Raycom and still has none?

Even if the conference is able to buy back those rights from Raycom, a second roadblock remains. Raycom sublicensed 17 of those football games and 25 of those basketball games to Fox, which carries the games on its regional sports networks throughout the ACC footprint. Live local sports programming is important to Fox’s RSNs, and they are not likely to give up those games cheaply.

Oh my, now Raycom makes money saving their own company by selling to FOX that lost the bid to be ACC's Broadcast Partner to ESPN and now the ACC-ESPN will have to buy those RIGHTS back from Raycom and Fox. This is my position, Swofford and the ACC waswrong to do it that way and ESPN is happy it does not have to spend more right now to form a ACC Network due to Swofford misjudgments on Raycom!

DO you really want me to go on and outline positions backed up by this Link to Think, unlike the Two (Twiddle-Dumb & Twiddle-Dumber) Panther's Fans babies above, that ended up insulting themselves without having the ability to post their own views so hid by self-created and admitted sarcasm and did a bad job at that too? Based on your own incorrect thoughts and info you went back on after I asked specifics and decided to wait you out to post this Link to make you think better too? LOL!

"Those deals extend through 2027. It’s unlikely that ESPN will try to launch a channel without those rights The games that stay with Raycom make up the ACC’s long-running syndicated package that is distributed to more than 50 million households on over-the-air networks, and reaches 25 of the top 50 U.S. TV markets. ESPN brought all of those rights — TV, digital, sponsorship — together as it formed the SEC Network, which launches in August 2014. “I just wonder if the ACC is a little late to the party,” Bevilacqua said."
Oh my, looks like no one has to wonder anymore, the Article is from 2013 and in 2016 still no ACC-Network is my position again that saving Raycom has helped delay and prevented an ACC Network to date...and Swofford Son still has his Raycom job?

“They had the opportunity to look at this several years ago and decided not to pursue it, when in fact, that was the more appropriate window. A lot has happened since then, and a lot of other programming services have popped up." "There’s even more headwind out there now that makes launching a network not impossible, but certainly harder to do.” The ACC has made the case that its league is perfectly suited for a channel. It cites figures that show the ACC has more TV households in its footprint, 43 million, than any other conference."
Oh Gee, SEC Moves and takes 6 years to set up SEC-ESPN Network without Raycom, and ACC waits 6 years and saves Raycom and if they had DUMPED Raycom and went for ACC Network then, there would be ACC Network before SEC-ESPN Network is my position. Plus, other Links show Raycom kept ACC ratings even lower since they Darked Out Cable Providers in 2013, 2014, and 2015 over their disputes to save Raycom Income.
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/05/20/Media/ACC-net.aspx

SEC-ESPN NETWORK without Raycom is A FACT!

ACC Network Does Not Exist Even With Raycom is A FACT?

But you say you THINK "ESPN" would have kept Raycom, "IF" SEC asked ESPN, but in "FACT" they Raycom was DUMPED and SEC & ESPN did it, just like I said at the start! So, what you thought was wrong is not a n "IF" but a FACT!

Those are my positions backed up with Links that think better than your "IFS" and "BUTS" and the FACT no ACC Network due to Swofford mistakes saving Raycon while SEC did not need Raycon?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

HAHAHAHA. If you ask him what color the sky is, it will be a long, very purple answer.

Yep, and you can't contribute a thoughtful post at all so join your other half Twiddle Dumber in Joe The Panther Fan both of you are alike by being incredibly average?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Some people just don't understand the difference between correlation and causation. Maybe we can find a link that explains it.

LOL.....Nursery Alert......good to see thumb sucker climbed out of his crib saying nothing but keep it up doing a lot of sucking, you are good at saying nothing as we all can read below.

After all it's interesting that this is only really an insult when Joe the Panther Fan pride himself on exceptionalism unfortunately only in his own mind, when you see his weak links.

Don't worry Little Joey by definition being average really isn't that bad for you. Just Review the posts below......I love how you state the obvious with such a sense of discoveries revealing your insecurities that are as mediocre as your posts;

https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com/search/664482/

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I don't know which is funnier, your complete lack of understanding of even what's in the links that you post or the fact that you just posted a link to literally nothing.

Well done.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I don't know which is funnier, your complete lack of understanding of even what's in the links that you post or the fact that you just posted a link to literally nothing.
Well done.

Thank you thought you would enjoy seeing how funny your prior posts have been about as much as you have posted here.....Now If you want something even funnier.....Just take a look at your own posts and then look in a mirror, LOL...

...You look like you're going to spend your life having one epiphany after another, always thinking you've finally figured out what's holding you back, and how you can finally be productive and creative and turn your life around. But nothing will ever change.......your posts cycle of mediocrity isn't due to some obstacle. It's who you are!

The only thing standing in the way of your dreams is that the person having them is you. Now go crying after reading your own posts here about what 15 words of nothing from you! LOL...and that is in just this thread, HAHAHAA!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Wait look at this gem of a posts by Joe The Panther Fan:
OT: Adams with a Double-Double
Yeah, but defense is pretty unimportant.
Post by: Joe the Panther Fan, Tuesday at 11:05 PM in forum: Basketball Board

Thank you Little Joey, you just proved you have a remarkable grasp of the obvious..! Tell us more Coachy Joey! LOL!

Here Is another Joe The Panther Fan revelations for all of us and he did not quote Seinfeld?
ACC meetings start today
But it's not Festivus!
Post by: Joe the Panther Fan, Monday at 6:54 PM in forum: Football Board

Don't worry Joey.....I think that's pretty common a lot of teens share a fear of mediocrity, but you'll grow into it, and that is move upward seeing your previous posts that were not even mediocre?

We can wait you opinion on ACC Network since you did not express one in this thread, and now we can see and know maybe you can't, oops!

So far your opinions on the FB Subject are as useless as a pedal-powered wheelchair, but keeping pedaling backwards until you construe one?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Wait look at this gem of a posts by Joe The Panther Fan:
OT: Adams with a Double-Double
Yeah, but defense is pretty unimportant.
Post by: Joe the Panther Fan, Tuesday at 11:05 PM in forum: Basketball Board

Thank you Little Joey, you just proved you have a remarkable grasp of the obvious..! Tell us more Coachy Joey! LOL!

Here Is another Joe The Panther Fan revelations for all of us and he did not quote Seinfeld?
ACC meetings start today
But it's not Festivus!
Post by: Joe the Panther Fan, Monday at 6:54 PM in forum: Football Board

Don't worry Joey.....I think that's pretty common a lot of teens share a fear of mediocrity, but you'll grow into it, and that is move upward seeing your previous posts that were not even mediocre?

We can wait you opinion on ACC Network since you did not express one in this thread, and now we can see and know maybe you can't, oops!

So far your opinions on the FB Subject are as useless as a pedal-powered wheelchair, but keeping pedaling backwards until you construe one?

So now you've shown that in addition to not understanding what's in the links that you post you also don't understand sarcasm and you don't understand humor. Just so we are all on the same page are there any other things that you don't understand that you'd like to confess to now?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I mean besides football and basketball of course. It's obvious to everyone that you have no understanding of either one of them, so no need to confess that.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Joe the Panther Fan, post: 1290039, member: 278"]So now you've shown that in addition to not understanding what's in the links that you post you also don't understand sarcasm and you don't understand humor.
Nope, just showed you had not one posts on content of the ACC Network and you resorted to what you call sarcasm was what you thought was humor, but it was just your inability to weigh in on the subject. If that upsets you, then learn to accept your limitations.

Therefore, one can see in your own lack of substantive posts you are not a Sports Wizard!

It gets worse for you when you make a sad attempt at sarcasm again reveals you are just a Poor Lair Jester! either?

As most Posters are Adults on the Lair, it is not nice to laugh at someone with those two things against them like you display in this thread, but you keep trying, but cut the crying, and go back to crib for a nappy nap, LOL!

Just so we are all on the same page are there any other things that you don't understand that you'd like to confess to now?
Once again, show us what you understood on the subject because you said nothing and no one needs to confess to anything when you couldn't comment on anything, and again if that upsets you that is on you, now go back and cry in your corner!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I mean besides football and basketball of course. It's obvious to everyone that you have no understanding of either one of them, so no need to confess that.

Nursery Alert: I don't have confess to you after anyone can see it is in your own posts I linked on what you can't show. No really, it’s adorable when you blame everyone but yourself!

We already know about what you don't know, and can see you posted nothing here on ACC Network discussion here, can you show us one????

When a Poster like you blame others you give up your power to grow and just create your own storms and then get upset when it rains.

Now if you can't take responsibility for your lack of posting on the subject. This is why you only look like a fool when trying to blame other people for your behavior.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I guess if I had as little understanding of the topic at hand I might consider using your tactic of name calling and BS filled posts to attempt to obscure that fact as well. Fortunately for me I don't have that problem, but you keep posting things you don't understand and I'll keep laughing at you for doing it.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I guess if I had as little understanding of the topic at hand I might consider using your tactic of name calling and BS filled posts to attempt to obscure that fact as well. Fortunately for me I don't have that problem, but you keep posting things you don't understand and I'll keep laughing at you for doing it.

Thumbsucker!!

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Back to expansion and stopping the pissing contest and looking at this seriously. I decided to channel my inner SMF. I am thinking the Big 10 will not come after ACC schools. Jim Delany is thinking bigger than this.

University of Tokyo. Excellent academic reputation, the Tokyo metro area is the largest in the world at around 37 million. Very advanced in electronic media, this could greatly add to BTN.

University of Toronto. Again, well received academically, geographically correct, and the Toronto metro area is about the same as Philly or DC, so large market. Affluent area for the most part.

Kyoto University. Again, very good academic record, untapped market and travel partner for the U of Tokyo.

Imperial College of London. Come on folks, it is London. It would also aid for the Eastern schools like Rutgers and PSU to have easy travel as compared to Iowa City and Bloomington.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"recruitsreadtheseboards, post: 1290330, member: 2328"]Back to expansion and stopping the pissing contest and looking at this seriously.
Thank you whether tongue or cheek, and how crazy as that sounds from you, you missed another point that could back up your comical foresight but Delany is so much smarter than Swofford or ESPN for that matter!

I decided to channel my inner SMF. I am thinking the Big 10 will not come after ACC schools. Jim Delany is thinking bigger than this.
You can now include Raycom Defender TDT too on that channeling! LOL!

University of Tokyo. Excellent academic reputation, the Tokyo metro area is the largest in the world at around 37 million. Very advanced in electronic media, this could greatly add to BTN.
University of Toronto. Again, well received academically, geographically correct, and the Toronto metro area is about the same as Philly or DC, so large market. Affluent area for the most part. Kyoto University. Again, very good academic record, untapped market and travel partner for the U of Tokyo. Imperial College of London. Come on folks, it is London. It would also aid for the Eastern schools like Rutgers and PSU to have easy travel as compared to Iowa City and Bloomington.
LOL & Funny again, but as we post NFL is making plans to expand to Asia. This means Asia Universities may follow American CFB as well. It has been written about and talked about on NPR Sunday's Sports Show?

One major reason why is that Travel time is very close to being reduced with Commercial Sub-Orbital Flights making going to England, China, Japan in less than Two Hours not Half Days!

It will take years to expand Football Worldwide, but B1G and SEC can Buy Up and Buyout ACC and Big-12 Schools as GOR Rights come closer to ending if PAC-12, ACC, and B-12 can't close on the Network Money Gap!

 

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Wait look at this gem of a posts by Joe The Panther Fan:
OT: Adams with a Double-Double
Yeah, but defense is pretty unimportant.
Post by: Joe the Panther Fan, Tuesday at 11:05 PM in forum: Basketball Board

Thank you Little Joey, you just proved you have a remarkable grasp of the obvious..! Tell us more Coachy Joey! LOL!

Here Is another Joe The Panther Fan revelations for all of us and he did not quote Seinfeld?
ACC meetings start today
But it's not Festivus!
Post by: Joe the Panther Fan, Monday at 6:54 PM in forum: Football Board

Don't worry Joey.....I think that's pretty common a lot of teens share a fear of mediocrity, but you'll grow into it, and that is move upward seeing your previous posts that were not even mediocre?

We can wait you opinion on ACC Network since you did not express one in this thread, and now we can see and know maybe you can't, oops!

So far your opinions on the FB Subject are as useless as a pedal-powered wheelchair, but keeping pedaling backwards until you construe one?

I want to clear up one thing first. You said

you posted how you care so much about Raycom

I never said I cared about Raycom. You cannot find any post in which I said that. This is again you making up something I never said.

Ok with that said, let me get to the point. You still haven't said how Raycom is preventing a network. I'll go ahead and take the liberty of assuming what you mean, and respond that way. My assumption is that you are saying that since some of the games are syndicated with Raycom, the ACC can't have a network, because Raycom owns the rights to those games (and sublet some to Fox).

Well, I've addressed that point several times, and you have never given me an answer. The SEC also had games syndicated with Comcast and Fox. If the ACC is prevented from having a network because Raycom owns some ACC games, then the SEC should have been prevented from starting a network because Comcast owned some SEC games.

However, the SEC was able to buy out the contracts with Comcast and Fox to get those rights back for a network. You haven't explained why the ACC can't do the same thing and buy out the contracts with Raycom and Fox. Especially in the case of Fox, we already have a precedent for this, since Fox was willing to sell back SEC games. It makes no sense to say that Fox would be willing to sell the more valuable SEC games, but be unwilling to sell back the less valuable ACC games.